Monolithic problems
honeymonster | 09/22/09
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Exaclty my thoughts.
People | 09/22/09
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kernal compile
PCLinuxOS(user) | 09/25/09
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Drivers, etc... Time for a new OS
BillDem | 09/22/09
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A new OS? What a novel idea ...
mwagner@... | 09/23/09
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UNIX is not new...
barence773 | 09/30/09
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New? Most of those things are how it already is.
AzuMao | 10/21/09
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Hmm.... what major OS does that today... V I S T A!
Lerianis10 | 10/21/09
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Wrong, it's not monolithic
magcomment | 09/22/09
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The Linux Kenel is monolithic
shaunehunter | 09/22/09
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Yes, it IS monolithic, but...
bendib | 09/22/09
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Utter nonsense
honeymonster | 09/23/09
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Actualy, Linux comes with all its drivers as modules.
Zogg | 09/23/09
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Losing strategies. Even Linus recognize that now
honeymonster | 09/23/09
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You have heard of "source code", right?
Zogg | 09/23/09
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ummm
jdbukis@... | 09/23/09
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"ummm" what?
Zogg | 09/23/09
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HAWWW!!!!!!
bendib | 09/23/09
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I agree Solaris QNX
MrStreams | 09/24/09
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No, thank YOU mr streams
honeymonster | 09/24/09
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Translation: "Thanks, but no thanks"
Zogg | 09/24/09
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@Zogg: Thank you
honeymonster | 09/25/09
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You ducked my point, honeymonster
Zogg | 09/25/09
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Trade off
Rybec Thalin Arethdar | 09/24/09
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Development culture?
metalktulu | 10/10/09
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Of the day? RPM has been around since at least 2003..
AzuMao | 10/21/09
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2000 maybe?..
JCitizen | 10/28/09
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etc.
wjgrimm | 09/22/09
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I don't know much about Linux but that reads as plausible.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 09/22/09
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Just to be clear
honeymonster | 09/22/09
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Memory
notsofast | 09/22/09
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Linux's drivers target the underlying hardware, not the device's brand name
Zogg | 09/23/09
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Windows
jdbukis@... | 09/23/09
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You mean for some USB devices?
Zogg | 09/23/09
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And others
de-void | 09/25/09
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Linux modules aren't "linked into the OS"
Zogg | 09/25/09
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huh? not all modules are compiled into the kernel
Clewin | 09/23/09
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Why have you ignored the key conclusion?
pjotr123 | 09/22/09
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I am sure your opinion will ....
ShadeTree | 09/22/09
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Just for the record...
JaceMan | 09/22/09
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Nit Pick and argue semantics but ....
ShadeTree | 09/23/09
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I'm not talking semantics...
JaceMan | 09/24/09
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Yes, but without the Linux kernel, all those ...
mwagner@... | 09/23/09
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funny you should say that
JaceMan | 09/24/09
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I think the key conclusion is that Torvalds is suffering from Alzheimers.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 09/22/09
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Good points! (nt)
mwagner@... | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
slgard | 09/22/09
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It already does
markdean | 09/22/09
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Thats not virtualisation
shaunehunter | 09/22/09
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wtf? win7?
Opcom_ | 09/22/09
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Virtualization tools ARE operating systems ...
mwagner@... | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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well nowe that you mention it
Quebec-french | 09/22/09
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oh, we expect great fun and laughter!
ericesque | 09/22/09
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well good luck you will need it (nt)
Quebec-french | 09/22/09
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sadly, you are probably right
markdean | 09/22/09
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Of course, and...
Cheballestosabato | 09/22/09
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Think about the comment you just made ericesque
Aragorn_z | 09/22/09
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Microsoft becomes a better OS ..
stewymelb | 09/23/09
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Okay the BS just got to deep.
deowll | 09/23/09
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You are almost as funny as this story
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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This according to the Best Buy retail figures?
B.O.F.H. | 09/22/09
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Read the article you linked to
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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So you still have hope?
B.O.F.H. | 09/22/09
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You have something in common with ars technica
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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I would have a longer reply
nucrash | 09/22/09
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How come you didn't do this?
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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You fail in Sarcasm
nucrash | 09/22/09
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Re: Linux Bloated
pdickey43@... | 09/22/09
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Sorry - I have XP Pro SP3 running on a 4GB drive in my netbook
BillDem | 09/22/09
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A couple of questions
pdickey43@... | 09/22/09
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Agreed in full...
cosuna | 09/22/09
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Your sizes are off
Joe_Raby | 09/22/09
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Linux is bloated
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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And yet
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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He also failed to provide evidence that Windows lacks duplicate code.
T1Oracle | 09/22/09
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@Viva & Oracle: Don't be too quick to assume.
de-void | 09/22/09
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I make no such assumption
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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@Viva ... take LD with a pinch of salt!
de-void | 09/25/09
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Vista had plenty of spyware
Mike_ | 09/25/09
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and I'd lay money
rtk | 09/26/09
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Not really...
cosuna | 09/22/09
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Yes really
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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And you read that where?
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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Not really...
stewymelb | 09/23/09
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Just 1 point
Viva la crank dodo | 09/23/09
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Not really a prosecutor, are you?
JaceMan | 09/22/09
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Am I supposed to be one?
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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Nice spin
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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You should know how to debate if you want to challenge people
JaceMan | 09/22/09
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Its just giving people what they want
siglostaffords | 09/22/09
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People don't want linux
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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"It just doesn't offer anything new or a good reason to even use it."
T1Oracle | 09/22/09
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I have Ubuntu 9.04
mjolnar@... | 09/22/09
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Good for you
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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You should be
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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Which is my point!
mjolnar@... | 09/22/09
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Just got my October TechNet magazine...
djchandler | 09/22/09
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tell me this
siglostaffords | 09/22/09
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How does your registry "break" precisely?
de-void | 09/22/09
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The Windows Registry is fragile
Filker0_z | 09/23/09
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Disk errors
rtk | 09/23/09
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So it is the file sytem?
Mike_ | 09/25/09
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No, the drive
rtk | 09/26/09
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No - NTFS is pretty stable ... especially since Vista
de-void | 09/29/09
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Registry woes
de-void | 09/29/09
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Me too.
CPPDEV | 09/23/09
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I'd just like to point out something
goff256 | 09/22/09
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I'd like to point out
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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LOL! I can't stop laughing
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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Re: LOL I can't stop laughing
pdickey43@... | 09/22/09
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Answers
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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If it doesnt matter
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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Re: Answers
JT82 | 09/22/09
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Hrm
JT82 | 09/22/09
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Re: "Turn for the Worst"
step69 | 09/22/09
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Correction
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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You called him out how?
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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Why?
People | 09/22/09
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What do you mean why? (NT)
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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You may hate linux, and by may I mean you do
goff256 | 09/22/09
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You couldn't be happier?
JaceMan | 09/22/09
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Right!
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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But why would this make you happy?
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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Is this really...
JaceMan | 09/22/09
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Sadly
Viva la crank dodo | 09/22/09
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Nobody wins from a split marketplace.
de-void | 09/22/09
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Hardly
Viva la crank dodo | 09/23/09
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Utter nonsense
de-void | 09/29/09
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Excuse me...
JaceMan | 09/24/09
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ROTFLMAO!!!
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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Why?
People | 09/22/09
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I just said why in the post (NT)
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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LOLOLOLOLOL!!
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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And your funny because.....
Rezinunts | 09/22/09
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Let's see the spin
mikefarinha | 09/22/09
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What is there to spin?
storm14k | 09/22/09
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Here ya go
Tim Patterson | 09/22/09
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Can the average person..
Snarfiorix | 09/22/09
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Maybe or maybe not
pdickey43@... | 09/22/09
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Re: remote desktop
Joe_Raby | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Jhuskie | 09/22/09
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did you really just say that?
ericesque | 09/22/09
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Re-read please
Jhuskie | 09/22/09
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Don't let his criticism shake you
JaceMan | 09/22/09
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Linus's visiion
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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What's scary is.....
pdickey43@... | 09/22/09
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SO you've pegged linux as a niche OS. Great!
ericesque | 09/22/09
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Question
Viva la crank dodo | 09/23/09
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an answer & a question
paladin2 | 09/24/09
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Some Answers
argon0 | 09/25/09
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That's not scarey
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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Beauty of open source can be seen both ways...
Spiritusindomit@... | 09/22/09
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Linux is just right sized
Linux Geek | 09/22/09
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...
Azathothh | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
gmiller@... | 09/22/09
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The really funny thing....
storm14k | 09/22/09
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What is funny
Loverock Davidson | 09/22/09
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The old 'too many cooks' scenario
The 'G-Man.' | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
rhomp2002@... | 09/22/09
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So what ...
nottheusual1 | 09/22/09
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Exactly....
Rezinunts | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
mpsii | 09/22/09
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Who in here can actually judge this?
ZaphodBreebleBrox | 09/22/09
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Why Torvalds is wrong -
compusolver | 09/22/09
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Uh, what?
Tim Patterson | 09/22/09
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Let's not forget
Joe_Raby | 09/22/09
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Trying to be objective
scottj3 | 09/22/09
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RE: Why Torvalds is wrong
chriswyatt | 09/22/09
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It's only as "bloated" as you want or need it to be
markdean | 09/22/09
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Here's a thought: let hardware makers make a standard OS kernel
Joe_Raby | 09/22/09
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What intel is doing is using Linux as a BIOS replacement.
B.O.F.H. | 09/22/09
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Coreboot is not what I'm talking about
Joe_Raby | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Jhuskie | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
chameleon@... | 09/22/09
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compare and contrast
mehinindiana | 09/22/09
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Good point. No comparison.
janitorman | 09/22/09
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There's a move within Microsoft to resolve that
Joe_Raby | 09/22/09
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One comment
pdickey43@... | 09/22/09
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I don't know of any major sites that use Real anymore
Joe_Raby | 09/22/09
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Real is on the decline
de-void | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Jhuskie | 09/22/09
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Kernel vs. Distro & Code Improvement
jcfrench | 09/22/09
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Default vs. customized kernels
dking@... | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
JaceMan | 09/22/09
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What are you people talking about?
zefficace | 09/22/09
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only two Linux smartphones according to writer?
mrbofus | 09/22/09
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Open Source On Far Devices Than Closed Proprietary!
i2fun@... | 09/25/09
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RE: Things change when you let them go.
sfaid | 09/22/09
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And what is the bloat free alternative?
nilotpal_c | 09/22/09
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Yes you can!
Cheballestosabato | 09/22/09
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Linux bloat
pwatson | 09/22/09
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Yes
Cheballestosabato | 09/22/09
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He didn't think before he posted...lmao
storm14k | 09/22/09
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RE: Linux Bloat
drednot57 | 09/22/09
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RE: Linux Bloat
Cheballestosabato | 09/24/09
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RE: The Rock Lover
Twibble | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Splatus | 09/22/09
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Nacho Libre!
Cheballestosabato | 09/22/09
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Applications rule, not kernels (nt)
dnheller | 09/22/09
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Yes, It's the applications and programs
flyking | 09/22/09
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Loverock needs a new hobbie
shaunehunter | 09/22/09
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RE: Linux Bloat
psion@... | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Jonkaare | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Aboleyn | 09/22/09
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I think the kernel can be pretty small
stevey_d | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Naryan | 09/22/09
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he's talking about the kernel source needing factoring - nothing to do with
stevey_d | 09/22/09
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Agreed! In fact
Louis.Ross@... | 09/22/09
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Shiny Code....
Narg | 09/22/09
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Challenges and Opportunities
emmerc@... | 09/22/09
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Compile the kernel?
tonymcs@... | 09/22/09
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OEMs could indeed compile
Louis.Ross@... | 09/22/09
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Not surprising; the more people you let code, unsupervised,
HypnoToad72 | 09/22/09
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What's wrong with being functional?
drednot57 | 09/22/09
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My Ubuntu just works better than my Vista...
CPPDEV | 09/22/09
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Might want to have
rtk | 09/23/09
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All three of my Vista machines are brand new.
CPPDEV | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
gammag | 09/22/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
baumer | 09/23/09
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It's not about bloat
Aussie_Troll | 09/23/09
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Stop the trolling
patibulo | 09/23/09
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Why would you call Torvald a troll?
rtk | 09/23/09
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This is a natural progression...
apexwebmaster | 09/23/09
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Hypocrite
croberts | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
mateokow@... | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
darkprince.1979@... | 09/23/09
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I think that Debian/Ubuntu meets your challenge.
CPPDEV | 09/23/09
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Some distros already do a lot of QC in selecting included apps.
drednot57 | 09/26/09
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Deja Vu all over again
kromkowski@... | 09/23/09
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Linus has a point
Filker0_z | 09/23/09
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Thoughtful and accurate reply.
CPPDEV | 09/23/09
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There's always a time where you have to rethink.
egiova | 09/23/09
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Self-criticism is always good
UAC nanny screen | 09/24/09
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Bloat
Ceridan | 09/23/09
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Let's just face facts ...
mwagner@... | 09/23/09
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Deleted / moved by user (NT)
Zogg | 09/23/09
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Welcome, Linus...
dave@... | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
mejohnsn | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
skywarp04@... | 09/23/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
siglostaffords | 09/24/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
OhKrud | 09/24/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
sbeg@... | 09/24/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
pidgeon | 09/24/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
amob23 | 09/24/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
dch1969 | 09/24/09
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It IS Huge
Uncle Stoat | 09/24/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Matt Gabriel | 09/26/09
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You can use smaller Linux kernels if you want!
ArtInvent | 09/30/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
wrn599@... | 10/02/09
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Linux and the community
charliec@... | 10/09/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Lim Boon Chuan | 10/16/09
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RE: Torvalds calls Linux
Lithius | 10/21/09
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You, apparently, since you clicked on the article.
AzuMao | 10/21/09
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