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that's like SAP "wrecked" outsourcing...
while I agree the govt inquiry may come to nothing, Moffat's argument is ingenious. By agreeing to a locked SIM, allowing AT&T to continue to play games with 3rd party apps like Skype and continuing to not push AT&T on documented service coverage issues and a slew of other areas, Apple has not wrecked much in wireless.

The reality is after 9 years of 3G rollout the US still has an unbelievably low 3G coverage, and for all the talk of 4G the rollout will be similarly slow. That is where the govt needs to be become more interventionist.

In our system of checks and balances we need the executive branch to offset the strong lobby telcos have in our legislative branch. But the agenda needs to be broader than just device lock-in. It should be how does the US have the speediest and widest coverage at the lowest price. Sorry but Apple so far has not done much to change that goal and in fact may have hurt it by agreeing to some of AT&T's pricing and practices.
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that's like SAP "wrecked" outsourcing...  vmirchan | 07/13/09
sorry Moffett not Moffat  vmirchan | 07/13/09
Disagree?  Synthmeister | 07/13/09
Need a history lesson  NonZealot | 07/13/09
Big picture still holds true  techconc | 07/14/09
Being First Doesn't Make You The Industry Standard  cpodman | 07/14/09
And how many did they sell?  ImpartialObserver | 07/14/09
thank you  thinklady | 07/14/09
Indeed.  magallanes | 07/14/09
No Doubt.  spikedstrider | 07/14/09
No WiFi at Verizon  keepaneye | 07/14/09
No WiFi at Verizon  ManoaHI | 07/14/09
Just a different approach  sirpaul1 | 07/14/09
... your move to an IPhone  roo_z | 07/15/09
Don't understand your reply  keepaneye | 07/16/09
Verizon will have another smartphone with WiFi  phreakincool@... | 07/16/09
good comments  vmirchan | 07/13/09
Let's not forget the value of 3G-4G in areas where WiFi does not exist.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/13/09
try finding 3G in Mojave!  vmirchan | 07/13/09
Did YOU look at the map?  vulpine@... | 07/14/09
Coverage of any type is limited  joeller | 07/14/09
Nine years of 3G?  hungryjoe | 07/14/09
I get quite a chuckle  Heart_Man_2000 | 07/13/09
At first I thought you were bashing Apple for their point of view.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/13/09
You can upgrade SmartPhones?  kcsmith2 | 07/14/09
Blackberries can be upgraded too..  condelirios | 07/23/09
Re:Disagree?  ICUR12 | 07/14/09
So, basically the US wireless companies are incapable of following ...  snafu_77 | 07/13/09
Uhh...we are what we are. And YOU have a choice. Thankfully!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/13/09
benchmarking  vmirchan | 07/13/09
Are you serious?  stano360 | 07/14/09
Don't touch me you damn dirty Marxist!  godsfault | 07/15/09
benchmarking  ICUR12 | 07/14/09
Funny go to china rant  snafu_77 | 07/13/09
Rage against the Marxism!!  stano360 | 07/14/09
We don't want marxism!  goff256 | 07/14/09
Don't rage against things you can't even define  DeusExMachina | 07/14/09
AMEN  keepaneye | 07/16/09
Ha ha!  davidmeridian | 07/15/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  Steve4Fluff | 07/13/09
Carrier's future  hardmanb | 07/13/09
And, they don't like it  davebarnes | 07/13/09
Actually, you have it wrong. Data uses TONS on stream & voice only a little  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/13/09
"Telco WILL charge for this...unless the gov'ment gets involved."  Anita Y. Mathis | 07/13/09
Nope! Not since before 2K. NOW MS is trying to wamp Apple!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/13/09
You really do enjoy  GuidingLight | 07/13/09
You contradict yourself  stano360 | 07/14/09
speaking of 70-year-old lines  vulpine@... | 07/14/09
Wireless Issues  kg6ygs@... | 07/14/09
I pay less, you need to shop around!  stano360 | 07/14/09
Some good questions. My response.  vulpine@... | 07/15/09
Town Council Exclusivity Deals  bfilipiak@... | 07/20/09
Is this whats been going on??  NoThomas | 07/13/09
I'd suspect the phone first...  vulpine@... | 07/13/09
It might be their network, or it might just be a piece of equipment.  Letophoro | 07/13/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wir  a.barry@... | 07/13/09
What a concept  Larry Dignan ZDNet Moderator | 07/13/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  madtown | 07/13/09
For starters...  Larry Dignan ZDNet Moderator | 07/13/09
re: For Starters  madtown | 07/13/09
A few comments  Larry Dignan ZDNet Moderator | 07/13/09
Of course...if Apple keeps coming out with upgrades like 3.0...  ths40 | 07/13/09
Disagree 100%  NonZealot | 07/13/09
Hmm...if it's the marketing that bothers you so...get MS TO UPGRADE!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/13/09
One word:  vulpine@... | 07/14/09
That's bull....  james@... | 07/14/09
A joke?  mdsock@... | 07/14/09
The problem with that particular argument is...  vulpine@... | 07/14/09
Battery Life Seems Independent of Phone  kg6ygs@... | 07/14/09
Siding with Wall Street - huh?  Wood3 | 07/22/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  cadman@... | 07/13/09
Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireles  eddie.medero@... | 07/13/09
Your analogy is grossly flawed...  readwryt@... | 07/13/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  fldrummer | 07/13/09
You can buy any phone you want  stano360 | 07/14/09
Wow... What a ignorant blog...  i8thecat | 07/13/09
ROFL!!! Did you even read the blog?  NonZealot | 07/13/09
Were you absent from class while "Ma Bell"  jmonjmon@... | 07/13/09
Try to keep up jmonjmon....  i8thecat | 07/13/09
Huh?  stano360 | 07/14/09
Pay attention...  i8thecat | 07/14/09
So what you advocate....  readwryt@... | 07/14/09
Doesn't the Federal Government have more important business?  readwryt@... | 07/13/09
Really??? Do they have more important business???  i8thecat | 07/13/09
Yes, protect us from competing standards...  readwryt@... | 07/14/09
Thank you sir!  stano360 | 07/14/09
When we forget history, we are doomed to repeat our mistakes  i8thecat | 07/14/09
Better do some research  vulpine@... | 07/15/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wir  DannyO_0x98 | 07/13/09
Correction:  msalzberg | 07/13/09
Nokia could benefit from this investigation  kuttara | 07/13/09
Lobbying...  AnderCori | 07/14/09
AMEN!  readwryt@... | 07/14/09
RE: Lobbying  bfilipiak@... | 07/20/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  ZDNetTech | 07/13/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wir  Win3.1 | 07/13/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  SpectreWriter | 07/13/09
Interesting point  NonZealot | 07/13/09
The Difference is NZ  john@... | 07/14/09
Really ...  ImpartialObserver | 07/14/09
Care to explain your reasoning?  vulpine@... | 07/14/09
Yep  readwryt@... | 07/14/09
Would the iPhone have been as popular a seller  GuidingLight | 07/13/09
That's the problem  Larry Dignan ZDNet Moderator | 07/13/09
Does that extend to just phones?  GuidingLight | 07/13/09
You mean like when the Mac Clone market got shut down?  readwryt@... | 07/14/09
Absolutely  stano360 | 07/14/09
Exclusive Marketing  kg6ygs@... | 07/14/09
But monthly fees would be less  pointzerotwo@... | 07/15/09
If all phones were unlocked we wouldn't buy them? WTF?  grail@... | 07/19/09
In case your forgot...the iPhone had no subsidy when it started.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/13/09
Is that a fact? Then you better call Apple and AT&T  GuidingLight | 07/13/09
Actually.. It is a fact...  i8thecat | 07/13/09
Yeah, a ton where sold at a higher price  John Zern | 07/13/09
The real problem is that consumers are stupid...  techconc | 07/14/09
Apples end user fees!!  tdrayton@... | 07/14/09
Evil Empire  jgwinner | 07/14/09
May I ask what you are talking about?  vulpine@... | 07/14/09
Apple  tdrayton@... | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wir  zato_3@... | 07/13/09
One item I don't get....  zenwalker | 07/13/09
You haven't said a word about prices  vulpine@... | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  avatera | 07/13/09
RE: Wireless prices are falling as carriers compete;  DjAtwill | 07/13/09
I think I already refuted this one...  vulpine@... | 07/14/09
Need match of user to services-share the load  cgrosse23 | 07/13/09
I'm confused...  Metronome49 | 07/14/09
If everything becomes free there will be no carriers  Baer | 07/14/09
Zzzzzzz  tahoe_blue | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  mvwenz | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  mmagliaro | 07/14/09
At Last .. Somebody who gets it  toolking | 07/14/09
crushing?  josephmartins | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  rob.sharp@... | 07/14/09
Clarify, please.  vulpine@... | 07/14/09
The problem is locked handsets.  TJGodel | 07/14/09
Yes it is  toolking | 07/14/09
Why?  stano360 | 07/14/09
There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get significant market share  Ken Fegore | 07/14/09
Who can't buy one?  stano360 | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  bcclendinen@... | 07/14/09
Understand economics  stephencat | 07/14/09
No kidding  russ99 | 07/14/09
locked networks...etc.  dwcfastrice | 07/14/09
Huh?  stano360 | 07/14/09
ZDNet: Windows Lapdog can't help itself...  3dtodd | 07/14/09
What has windows got to do with this?  toolking | 07/14/09
Why AT&T?  klockheed | 07/14/09
Y ATT?  zchara@... | 07/14/09
Typical Luddites  Graham Ellison | 07/14/09
Psssst....don't look now but the herring? It's red...  readwryt@... | 07/14/09
I know I'm correct but...  Graham Ellison | 07/14/09
Apple put the blames on.  magallanes | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  steven.miller@... | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: What?  john_gillespie@... | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  vger_z | 07/14/09
Right On!  john_gillespie@... | 07/14/09
I call BS  pwn0tr0n | 07/14/09
Sounds to me like some bold company needs to inovate..  readwryt@... | 07/14/09
What a load of hooey!  stano360 | 07/14/09
And I can't believe that you so wrongly interpreted...  readwryt@... | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  radiowaves | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wir  brighteyes459@... | 07/14/09
Choice is a matter of perspective  jeremy.brown@... | 07/14/09
I'd love for the iPhone to go with other carriers!  kajufe | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wir  JustGitRDone | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  deowll | 07/14/09
RE: Iphone vs AT&T  bobball1 | 07/14/09
When does ATT contract end & will Apple move to Verizon?  kelliann | 07/14/09
Network Neutrality is bad for profits  erikswanson | 07/14/09
That's why they need to be fought...  UAC nanny screen | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  GhengisKhan | 07/14/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  Rikaroo | 07/14/09
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RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wir  jnoel@... | 07/15/09
This is where I say "thank god I'm not a Yank"!!  kaninelupus | 07/15/09
iPhone in Oztrialya  yonian | 07/15/09
Her'e a few plan outlays  kaninelupus | 07/16/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wir  jnoel@... | 07/15/09
Still the horse-cr@p reigns!!  kaninelupus | 07/16/09
RE: Analyst: Forget the Feds, Apple is 'doing just fine at wrecking the wireless business'  dcolbert@... | 07/15/09
RE: Apple is 'doing just fine  JOgershok | 07/16/09
NO way -- I love the competition Apple has started but we need the feds.  big picture guy | 07/19/09
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