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RIAA is a dangerous criminal organization
There is only one victim here, that poor woman, they destroyed her life, and for what?
Of course she lied that her kids were the one, that she hadn't known etc. She was trying to get away from initial fine which was also draconian. It's not the point if woman had lied, if she is good or bad person, this punishment is dangerous for all of us.
Copying a CD is NOT the same as stealing CD in a store, or anything material for that matter. They didn't had that money, and I didn't take it from them, stealing is just that, takeing something that someone had. They are assuming that I haven't copied something I would buy it, which is dead wrong. I can make 100000 copies in 10 seconds does artist lose 20$*10000? Of course not only someone extremely stupid like this court can believe that.
For vast majority of artists piracy brings profit. Only very small percentage, the most popular artists which in any case make millions on their albums, are not helped, because you can hear their music on TV and radio.
If it wasn't for mp3 I would never heard 99% of bands that I'm listening now, bands that I bought some CDs (not all ofcourse, CDs are too expensive), I went to their concerts where I also gave them money. I copied the CDs that I bought to my friends, and they also bought some CDs after that, and they also went to their concerts, and gave artists their money for their performance. None of that money would they get if it wasn't for copies. And someone downloaded that same music from us, and then they went to their concerts and gave money to artists directly.

2M dollars, are they out of their minds?! 24 songs? By that token they could convict the whole world except some percentage of US population, because they were brainwashed how moral it is to pay absurd prices for CD/DVDs, and how artists suffer. It makes me puke.
Want another example? Microsoft, the only reason why they are so popular (outside US) is BECAUSE of piracy, that is why they have a monopoly. No one sane here would pay such enormous amounts of money for Win and Office, and no one does except professional firms. I would say that an average computer in the world has more than 10 000$ software "worth" installed on their computers and they want you to think that is's the same as you walked into a bank put a gun at someones face and requested money. US propaganda is really strong, but I can't believe that average citizen is so stupid that he can accept that.
Who pays for Newton law, theory of relativity, or quantum physics that everyone of us uses in everyday life (your computer, cellphone, everything in your life depends on technology made by someones intellectual work, and much more sophisticated intellectual work than some limp bizkit cd or MS windows.)

I have a hard drive of 1TB. I can make 1500 virtual machines just by downloading one copy of windows. I would probably be accused of having offended Microsoft by more than few million dollars + few million on some law bull'hit.
I honestly don't understand how can these lawyers sleep at night. I guess that they convinced their self that moral=law (no matter how you manipulate the law).
It hurts me watching such injustice.
Posted by: enedene   Posted on: 06/19/09  (Edited: 06/19/2009 @ 09:08) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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RIAA is a dangerous criminal organization  enedene | 06/19/09
When you unlawfully duplicate music for redistribution  xXSpeedzXx | 06/19/09
you must have been in the jury  enedene | 06/19/09
It was approimately 1700 songs. They only pursued her for 24. (nt)  ye | 06/19/09
Oh, I'm sorry then...  enedene | 06/19/09
she did it to herself...  xXSpeedzXx | 06/19/09
"We are a nation of laws. Don't want to destroy  Kaptah | 06/19/09
So what?  AbsolutelyNot | 06/19/09
= $136,000,000  fr0thy2 | 06/22/09
Crime shouldn't pay the criminal should!  djalan | 06/19/09
The gov't will pay ultimately.  adelacuesta | 06/19/09
Seriously?  AbsolutelyNot | 06/19/09
Not going to have a meaningful  xXSpeedzXx | 06/19/09
"Not going to have a meaningful"  Kaptah | 06/19/09
If it was a jury of her peers...  AttackComputerWhiz | 06/19/09
No, you hurt the rest of us  fr0thy2 | 06/22/09
She got what she deserved, did she?  RealAusTech | 06/22/09
$1000 Per Song  Big Wing | 06/23/09
Are you insane?  PcJunkie | 06/24/09
Wrong and Wrong  User07734 | 06/19/09
The Law. No loop hole here.  xXSpeedzXx | 06/19/09
funny  enedene | 06/19/09
re: "funny"  Kaptah | 06/19/09
Theft versus Sandwiches  Big Wing | 06/23/09
Well, you are right  Ashtonian | 06/19/09
Consider this though...  xXSpeedzXx | 06/19/09
re:Consider this though...  Kaptah | 06/19/09
Dickens  Barc777 | 06/19/09
The Law. No loop hole here.  Kaptah | 06/19/09
Careful Here - Law And Justice Are Two Very Separate Things  Cardhu | 06/22/09
The issue is not peer to peer.  RealAusTech | 06/22/09
Copyright Laws R.I.P.  Geotopia | 06/22/09
And no you cannot give a copy of a CD to a friend  xXSpeedzXx | 06/19/09
You cannot burn a CD or create MP3 files  gschultz | 06/19/09
You cannot burn a CD or create MP3 files  bwchato | 06/19/09
Hmm..butSony sells ripping CDs software and hardware!!  news_reader | 06/21/09
You better go read some more  AbsolutelyNot | 06/19/09
from the link (bullet point number 4)  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 06/19/09
This Is Not Correct  Cardhu | 06/19/09
This Is Not Correct  bwchato | 06/19/09
Read My Post For Comprehension  Cardhu | 06/22/09
I agree with you assement  xXSpeedzXx | 06/19/09
Link to Audio Home Recoding Act  SpikeyMike | 06/24/09
This law is nuts  Mercutio_Viz | 06/19/09
This law is nuts  bwchato | 06/19/09
Then there are millions of criminals  jsjag | 06/19/09
When you unlawfully duplicate music for redistribution  Kaptah | 06/19/09
Corrections  Big Wing | 06/23/09
you are 100% WRONG!  pinngwinn@... | 06/19/09
Oh, PULEEZE!!!  AbsolutelyNot | 06/19/09
love your posts!  jedikitty@... | 06/20/09
And Their Cut  Cardhu | 06/22/09
Color of law to induce fear!  Altotus | 06/19/09
Thats about right...  gvtooker@... | 06/19/09
RIAA Loss by this outrage  Altotus | 06/21/09
80,000 per song  Devonmcnulty@... | 06/19/09
RIAA's $2K000 victory  hwgray | 06/20/09
1M92$  Mahegan | 06/20/09
The truth is in the middle.  HypnoToad72 | 06/21/09
New line of work  hrwaller | 06/21/09
Taking advantage of "fair use" can be a criminal offense  rdhalsteatzd | 06/22/09
When you unlawfully duplicate music for redistribution  jackfred | 06/24/09
As the former Streaming Media Manager for Stanford's radio station ...  TSGlassey | 06/19/09
Lawyers have no morals.  govmtman | 06/19/09
RIAA how to deal with them!  koolarry@... | 06/19/09
Re: RIAA is a dangerous criminal organization  kennapier812 | 06/19/09
I'd like to meet the IP creator...  AttackComputerWhiz | 06/19/09
RIAA...  perversion2003@... | 06/20/09
The Actual Meaning of "Recover" For The RIAA  Cardhu | 06/22/09
once upon a time in a certain country...  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 06/19/09
I do not know if she lied or not  BroGnorik | 06/19/09
You also have to consider legal fees.  xXSpeedzXx | 06/19/09
No it's not reasonable  enedene | 06/19/09
Reap What We Sow  preacherx | 06/19/09
If you bought a song  BroGnorik | 06/19/09
Digital has no tangible value  AbsolutelyNot | 06/19/09
Thats a problem  Cayble | 06/19/09
your logic is flawed  nickdangerthirdi@... | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  condelirios | 06/19/09
I pay for ALL my music, but .....  kd5auq | 06/19/09
RIAA = Sony, EMI, Warner, Universal = boycott  BillDem | 06/19/09
And I guess Pirate Bay guys are your heroes too?  artplus@... | 06/19/09
pitty...  enedene | 06/19/09
And I guess Pirate Bay guys are your heroes too?  Indypost | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  sderf@... | 06/19/09
I will never...  PcJunkie | 06/19/09
hmmm  enedene | 06/19/09
Maybe  PcJunkie | 06/24/09
Communists?  lehnerus2000 | 06/24/09
I will never...  bwchato | 06/19/09
Maybe bust your door down...  artplus@... | 06/19/09
RE:Maybe bust your door down...  richdave | 06/19/09
Maybe bust your door down.  bwchato | 06/19/09
Digital Rights Mafia win major court victory  bblackmoor@... | 06/19/09
when ordinary people do something  enedene | 06/19/09
yep, the JURY did this, but  jedikitty@... | 06/21/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  NeutralityNow | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  Starman35 | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  lshoff | 06/19/09
You lost your music?  seattlereign67 | 06/19/09
Thanks!  lshoff | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  rmmccoy | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  tesseractedp | 06/19/09
so are we saying...  ViRaL1 | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  Indypost | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  prasanna@... | 06/19/09
I have no respect for copyright law because it has no respect for me!  dddienst@... | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  david@... | 06/19/09
It's just like insurance companies...  FatherJ | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  johnpills | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  jeremy@... | 06/19/09
Theeze eeze true  Ole Man | 06/22/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  Henk de Boer | 06/19/09
I don't bother buying their music any more any way  ca1ic0cat | 06/19/09
Agreed - Music market is changing  dtroyerSMU | 06/19/09
agree  enedene | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  djalan | 06/19/09
The penalty must fit the crime.  terry@... | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  deuxglass | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  Rocker452 | 06/19/09
What about this poor womans life?  Altotus | 06/19/09
Free Choice  Big Wing | 06/23/09
You  PcJunkie | 06/24/09
Death to the RIAA  chessmen | 06/19/09
I agree 110%!!!  PcJunkie | 06/24/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  jwschull@... | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  indevoter | 06/19/09
Actual losses are microscopic  angelsix | 06/19/09
Punishment should fit the crime  rjcarlson49 | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  kennapier812 | 06/19/09
ASCAP got it right the first time  doctordawg | 06/19/09
fine and dandy but  jedikitty@... | 06/21/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  jkermon@... | 06/19/09
The Message Is Stop Buying Cd's  chessmen | 06/19/09
We are NOT a nation of laws  Sodbuster41 | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  Sodbuster41 | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  Sodbuster41 | 06/19/09
[links] Problems with current copyright law:  Sneech | 06/19/09
They are as bad as ASCAP  etimer@... | 06/19/09
WHAT ABOUT USED CD'S  GASGTO73@... | 06/19/09
Not yet  AttackComputerWhiz | 06/19/09
Open mic nights  AttackComputerWhiz | 06/19/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  tao372 | 06/19/09
What you get when you buy a CD  Griffard | 06/19/09
Might as well be hunting leprechauns  e_caroline@... | 06/20/09
Boycott all Music for RIAA Labels  daniel.herpst@... | 06/20/09
Could you help us by naming the labels?  e_caroline@... | 06/20/09
Gasp!  Big Wing | 06/23/09
The laws used by the RIAA need to be removed  Narg | 06/20/09
Almost right  Altotus | 06/21/09
$2 million dollars for a speeding ticket  rdupuy11 | 06/20/09
If they are more interested in the message than the money  {DvT}Hex | 06/20/09
The law can be changed in a democracy, can't it?  Mahegan | 06/20/09
"...democracy is dead."  lehnerus2000 | 06/24/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  olen79760 | 06/20/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  NCWeber | 06/21/09
I will never again buy music from these mobsters  kraterz | 06/21/09
Message this, RIAA/MPAA/Hollywood Mafia  terry flores | 06/21/09
Wise up  binarydarkstar | 06/22/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  t0cableguy@... | 06/23/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  t0cableguy@... | 06/23/09
Music is dead  MacKeyser | 06/23/09
Ditto!  Ole Man | 06/23/09
A bit of Balance  Big Wing | 06/23/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  Zolar | 06/24/09
RE: RIAA's $1.92 million victory: more about message, less about money  mcp123 | 10/13/09

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