It almost seems like TomTom was expecting this...
Been_Done_Before | 03/30/09
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In any case, it came right after the counter suit, and TomTom joining OIN.
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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True, It obviouslly meant that
GuidingLight | 03/30/09
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We have no evidence that TomTom paid anything significant.
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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You can spin TomTom's loss any way you want
GuidingLight | 03/30/09
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We all know your in love with MS, but seriously, calm down fanboi. nt
T1Oracle | 03/30/09
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He is 100% correct
markbn | 03/30/09
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And, until we know the amount that TomTom paid, it is all speculation on
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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You claim TomTom paid M$ a large ammount. What is your source?
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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A few more 'wins' like this one and soon M$ will be history.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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You and your wild imagination.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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Re; hear voices inside your head too?
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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Nope, I'm just making them sound inside yours.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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I was actually referring to Shadys possibly
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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@hkommedal: Sorry, I can't remember anything shady has written.
InAction Man | 04/01/09
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How about telling us how much Tomtom paid M$?
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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Neither ...
MisterMiester | 03/30/09
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Still, if TomTom had to pay 25 cents for every little piece of technology,
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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Now you know why ...
MisterMiester | 03/30/09
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Good post, but, it is not just the attorneys making money here.
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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Re; software patents will kill the industry.
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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Thats called the cost of doing business.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/30/09
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Yes, kind of sad that part of doing business is paying of patent trolls.
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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The sad "part of doing business" is having to
GuidingLight | 03/30/09
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Yes nevermind the fact....
storm14k | 03/30/09
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The sad part is people stealing others IP.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/30/09
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Translation - "I was wrong again"
whisperycat | 03/31/09
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And what qualifications does Don Rupert have that allow him
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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We can't know who caved if we don't know the amount of the settlment.
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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Oh, but we know. TomTom receives $0.00 for their patents, while MS receives
markbn | 03/30/09
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RE: TomTom, Microsoft settle: Who caved?
Loverock Davidson | 03/30/09
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Never about the money ...
MisterMiester | 03/30/09
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The other thing: What does MS have to hide here? Why does the amount of the
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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It is common not to disclose the amount.(nt)
ShadeTree | 03/30/09
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Well, it is common to disclose almost nothing, but, note that MS insisted
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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I'm sure they wanted everyone to ....
ShadeTree | 03/30/09
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But, if they wanted us to know who prevailed, we would have to know the
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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Not at all!
ShadeTree | 03/30/09
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He is just a sore loser
markbn | 03/30/09
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And, again, since we do not know the amount, all of what you said is pure
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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look at what MS patented and more importantly...
brokndodge@... | 03/30/09
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@DonnieBoy: since we do not know the amount but know TomTom is not charging
markbn | 03/30/09
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They are fooling no one.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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Especially when it humiliates the pretense winner
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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Because its none of your business.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/30/09
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What a fantastic answer. It says nothing.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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RE: TomTom, Microsoft settle: Who caved?
Towhaul | 03/30/09
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Next will be another small company that can ill afford patent lawyers and
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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They don't have to sign anything
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/30/09
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That is assuming that MS has any IP here. These patents will likely be
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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I'll give you the age
wolf_z | 03/30/09
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No it did not. It was protested by MS when it was first thrown out.
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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rather new ms patents...
brokndodge@... | 03/30/09
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Goes to show how well the software patents work.
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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The only thing likely is Tom Tom KNEW they would LOSE.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/30/09
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Just keep repeating it.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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No. They knew they could not afford a win ! (nt)
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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That does not work.
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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GPL violation?
Linux Geek | 03/30/09
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You can word a generic patent agreement and still not admit that
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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I wonder what other patents TomTom
GuidingLight | 03/30/09
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the patent dates say...
brokndodge@... | 03/30/09
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And they probably did not even know it, as they TOO got it
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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Apart from the ones MS "stole" from Tom Tom.
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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GPL doesn't prohibit patents
keith_braithwaite | 03/31/09
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It is a no brainer!
ShadeTree | 03/30/09
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Not exactly a no brainer, we need to know how much was paid. If TomTom paid
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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Not at all.
ShadeTree | 03/30/09
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TomTom caved. TomTom caved. TomTom caved
GuidingLight | 03/30/09
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What part of "the amount of the settlement is unknown" to you not
DonnieBoy | 03/30/09
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TomTom lost because they have to pay
markbn | 03/30/09
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It is a lot less to pay than $250 000, or more if taken to court. (nt)
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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You sound like a baby.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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Cut the crap. Just tell us how much.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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Actually its the one with the most to loose...
storm14k | 03/30/09
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Yes, brilliant logic! They will be paid and be allowed to used patents free
markbn | 03/30/09
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Exactly! Now tell me how much did M$ get?
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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Re; Follow the money. That term is usually used in
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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RE: TomTom, Microsoft settle: Who caved?
Jackson54 | 03/30/09
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not sure what to make of it...
brokndodge@... | 03/30/09
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a lil research...
brokndodge@... | 03/30/09
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That list is meaningless
GuidingLight | 03/30/09
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Thank you for making it clear.
storm14k | 03/30/09
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second or maybe 6th problem for MS...
brokndodge@... | 03/30/09
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M$ caved! Accept it, and move on.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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We don't know that. Lack of info makes that impossible
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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Had M$ won we would have no doubts. They have the money to end all doubts.
InAction Man | 04/01/09
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Looking at this list
A.Sinic | 03/31/09
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I only hope M$ gets a lot more victories like this one.
InAction Man | 03/31/09
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RE: TomTom, Microsoft settle: Who caved?
janvl | 03/30/09
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Why didn't they use GPL'd file systems
markbn | 03/30/09
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because Windows don't support them.
langdt@... | 03/31/09
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Then they gotta pay baby ...
markbn | 03/31/09
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If that is the general attitude, then the EU might be the next
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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The EU may be all for interoperation
markbn | 03/31/09
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Software patents is mostly a US illness.
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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UDF is generally a well accepted file system.
hkommedal | 03/31/09
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RE: TomTom, Microsoft settle: Who caved?
keith_braithwaite | 03/31/09
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Microsoft did, and here's why:
OButterball | 03/31/09
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Check that: Microsoft DIDN'T and here's why:
OButterball | 03/31/09
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Not true either
markbn | 03/31/09
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Of course not
markbn | 03/31/09
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It's not THE press release, it's Microsoft's Press Release, TomTom quiet
stevey_d | 03/31/09
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M$ caved. Had they won there would be no doubts.
InAction Man | 04/01/09
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