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RE: We can fill their jobs
I have to agree with Virgil. I'm an IT Manager/Project
manager with over 25 years experience in the Fortune
1000. I've been out of work for going on 8 months. I
have a very current and relevant depth of skills.

I submit my resume to some 25 to 50 positions online
every week... I was at least interviewing occasionally
until about 3 months ago, then all the positions that
were at some stage of interviewing closed their job
reqs until at least after the new year. I don't know
if all of these jobs I'm submitting to are real open
positions or not... I usually get an automated email
response on the receipt of my resume. But I only ever
hear back from maybe one in ten when I get a rejection
email. I rarely ever get a chance to give my
'pitch'... If I try to contact somebody at the
companies I'm targeting, I get a "please use our
careers web site" response.

And of course, the 'magic bullet' of "Networking"... A
good portion of my 'Network' is already in the same
sinking boat or in fear of having to start bailing
with us.

I'd be interested to know about how many of the 11Mil+
unemployed in the US right now are IT professionals
with decent skills going unused.

Doug
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jddalrymple
Posted by: jddalrymple1   Posted on: 11/17/08  (Edited: 11/17/2008 @ 05:05) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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We can fill their jobs  vbiersch@... | 11/17/08
RE: We can fill their jobs  jddalrymple1 | 11/17/08
As of September...  Anton Philidor | 11/17/08
A new batch(~140,000) of H-1B's started coming in Oct 1, 2008  thetruth_z | 11/18/08
RE: We can fill their jobs  AlterGeek | 11/17/08
How many STEM workers are under-employed?  Professor8 | 11/17/08
RE: We can fill their jobs  zdlb07 | 11/17/08
Thisis good - you missed something  The Admiral | 11/17/08
lawyers teaching how to avoid able & willing US workers  Professor8 | 11/17/08
Horse Pucky there isn't any IT labor shortage  maldain | 11/17/08
whole software development shops off-shored  Professor8 | 11/17/08
Yes, we can fill their jobs!  Computer_User_1024 | 11/17/08
Your post belies the assertion of the article  maldain | 11/17/08
another body shopped  Professor8 | 11/17/08
Or in my case  hiraghm@... | 11/17/08
I forgot...  hiraghm@... | 11/17/08
Re: We can fill their jobs  sqr(cos(180)) | 11/17/08
Right on!  shanedr | 11/18/08
The real shortage is qualified managers  ddmattison | 11/17/08
Totally Agree  msgrinnell@... | 11/17/08
Wow are you right  steve@... | 11/17/08
IT Professionals, Yes - Management Quality, No  The Admiral | 11/17/08
Heh  frgough | 11/17/08
Huh?  vulpine@... | 11/17/08
It doesn't, not even remotely.  bmerc | 11/18/08
Heh, frgough!  sqr(cos(180)) | 11/17/08
New statisttic show the Tooth Fairy is Real!!  aandruli@... | 11/17/08
The money trail doesn't lie  Jason Hiner ZDNet Moderator | 11/17/08
Were you a consultant for this article?  Taz_z | 11/17/08
Not necessarily the case for call centers  tsb278 | 11/17/08
Umm...  dracolich_prgrm | 11/17/08
Try reading...  gypkap@... | 11/17/08
Re: Try reading...  sqr(cos(180)) | 11/17/08
Culture  rjt@... | 06/26/09
But Managers Do  JimSatterfieldW | 11/17/08
five years  csaager | 11/17/08
Really?  maldain | 11/17/08
Since when does it have to be EQUAL to have an impact?  bmerc | 11/18/08
These are survey results, not accounting ledgers  medezark@... | 06/26/09
Tooth Fairy Real - Outsourcing not  The Admiral | 11/17/08
worse, it's M$ enthralled corporate  Professor8 | 11/17/08
... and be a villain.  Anton Philidor | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  cepedajoe@... | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  bentrewicz@... | 11/17/08
misleading the surveys  lost in Texas | 11/17/08
misleading reports  Professor8 | 11/17/08
How real is the IT worker shortage?  bmonster | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is NOT exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is NOT real  Taz_z | 11/17/08
This is true  Jason Hiner ZDNet Moderator | 11/17/08
So...  Taz_z | 11/17/08
If ...  Jason Hiner ZDNet Moderator | 11/17/08
The question is: Can they do the same job (at least...  ye | 11/17/08
RE: If...  bfilipiak@... | 11/17/08
Ye hit the nail on the head  Taz_z | 11/17/08
execs refuse to invest in training & education  Professor8 | 11/17/08
Thank You  hiraghm@... | 11/17/08
Are you kidding me?  Frustrated1 | 11/17/08
eh hm  medezark@... | 06/26/09
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  Redcell | 11/17/08
I Concur, The IT "Labor Shortage" Is Real, It's Very Real  Arsynic | 11/17/08
Even Raj and Ram and Sona get rejected... once naturalized  Professor8 | 11/17/08
Dubious  hiraghm@... | 11/17/08
"neo-cons" ARE "socialists" sheesh!  Professor8 | 11/17/08
can we share those weeds?  Linux Geek | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  tmcclure | 11/17/08
Head in the Cloud Computing  The Admiral | 11/17/08
Re: Cloud  catmedia | 11/17/08
*sigh*  hiraghm@... | 11/17/08
Is this an argument for more H-1B's?  Anton Philidor | 11/17/08
Open a new immigration programme for skilled workers  dproudman@... | 11/17/08
US Issue  Anton Philidor | 11/17/08
proposal misdirected, encourages hyper-credentialism  Professor8 | 11/17/08
RE: The real shortage is IT willing to work for free  kevinbwood@... | 11/17/08
soooo darn true....  moralesjl15@... | 11/17/08
RE: ...work for free!!  bfilipiak@... | 11/17/08
RE: RE: The real shortage is IT willing to work for free  dracolich_prgrm | 11/17/08
Offshore does not always mean a savings  dave01010101 | 11/17/08
and...  Taz_z | 11/17/08
old pro rates for incompetent newbie work  Professor8 | 11/17/08
RE: Offshore does not always mean a savings  bfilipiak@... | 11/17/08
Maybe because...  moralesjl15@... | 11/17/08
Yep 3 years experience with version 2008  kevinbwood@... | 11/17/08
Don't forget...  Taz_z | 11/17/08
in 1997 they demanded 5 years of Java  Professor8 | 11/17/08
Funny...  Taz_z | 11/17/08
All systems to be re-written in Java!  Dilberter | 11/17/08
Re: All systems to be re-written in Java!  sqr(cos(180)) | 11/17/08
Key is "qualified people" - moving definition  scott1329 | 11/17/08
This is true  maldain | 11/17/08
"qualified" vs. able/capable and willing  Professor8 | 11/17/08
what a load of bull  David the Nerd | 11/17/08
At least Sprint has good cause  Taz_z | 11/17/08
Sprint is their own worst enemy  coopejx@... | 11/17/08
Just because someone worked at a tech company ...  Jason Hiner ZDNet Moderator | 11/17/08
There is no labor shortage problem.  ye | 11/17/08
just because a STEM company has n employees...  Professor8 | 11/17/08
and to add to the stench  Linux Geek | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  dotkayk@... | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  marisa@... | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  rmcguire@... | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  jondis | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  The Admiral | 11/17/08
They apparently ignore the company I work for  Silent Observer | 11/17/08
fits the picture  csaager | 11/17/08
Pfizer IT outsourcing draws lawmaker ire  ye | 11/17/08
Looks like there's more of a CUSTOMER shortage  tunghoy | 11/17/08
IT offshoring is real  jerry.dunn@... | 11/17/08
CitiGroup, former Control Data subsidiary  Professor8 | 11/17/08
The only IT shortage in the USA is the pay.  Letophoro | 11/17/08
"Law of Supply and Demand" The good ol' American Way  Mahegan | 11/17/08
supply, demand, price, force and fraud  Professor8 | 11/17/08
The big issue behind all of this...  daniel.melanson@... | 11/17/08
Labor shortage could be solved easily  nancyjones36507@... | 11/17/08
Well put, but it is not ignorance, it is connivance  Mahegan | 11/17/08
Yeah  dracolich_prgrm | 11/17/08
The big lie continues  dstruve | 11/17/08
What about the free enterprise, all-American  Mahegan | 11/17/08
so, anyone who initiates force or fraud is akin to fascists  Professor8 | 11/17/08
I was with you up to the point where you threw out the "communist" nonsense  bmerc | 11/18/08
International Trade - Read the Theory  Mahegan | 11/17/08
off-shored, on-shored customer support  Professor8 | 11/17/08
And then...  dracolich_prgrm | 11/17/08
Let's look at the number...  Zorched | 11/17/08
Head-line conclusion does not follow from evidence presented  Professor8 | 11/17/08
Hey! Weren't you the guys that voted "free trade"  Mahegan | 11/17/08
except Clinton and W weren't free marketeers  Professor8 | 11/17/08
Sorry but i am tired of talking to Indians  steve@... | 11/17/08
There is no language barrier  csaager | 11/17/08
I am a born, native English speaker  Mahegan | 11/17/08
family and language skills  Professor8 | 11/17/08
Re: There is no language barrier  sqr(cos(180)) | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  dstruve | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  steve@... | 11/17/08
My Company Just Offshored IT  jspanitz | 11/17/08
The actual numbers say you're wrong...  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/17/08
ZD bows to advertisers - pulls numbers out of thin air  RxMiller@... | 11/17/08
Re: The actual numbers say you're wrong...  sqr(cos(180)) | 11/17/08
the 5% solution  3D0G | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  maldain | 11/17/08
80/20 rule  sqr(cos(180)) | 11/17/08
Also a Lack of Recruiter IT Comprehension  whatswhat | 11/17/08
Delphi Add copied from Cobol!  Dilberter | 11/17/08
IT offshoring is exaggerated / the IT labor shortage is real, NOT!  whatswhat | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  avatar_man@... | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is Sub-Par and the IT labor surpless is real  RxMiller@... | 11/17/08
True, in a sense  MyLord | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  rod.pettinato@... | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  sceneeverywhere | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  portars@... | 11/17/08
RE: IT... Nothing but Bad Management  blackfalconsoftware@... | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the $15/hr IT labor shortage is real  xfer_rdy | 11/17/08
ZDnet bowing to advertizers bent on ruining the US labor rates  xfer_rdy | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  Frustrated1 | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  jeffstrash | 11/17/08
Article: Ziff-Davis (of Japan) receives US tax-payer subsidy?  RxMiller@... | 11/17/08
Requires a Presidential Directive  Dilberter | 11/17/08
Ye hit the nail on the head  Taz_z | 11/17/08
Evidently a Concerted Effort by the Powers that Be in Congress  Dilberter | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring/outsourcing is not exaggerated  tf1024@... | 11/17/08
Exactly!  medezark@... | 06/26/09
Offshoring is the source of shortage!  no nonsense | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  bentrewicz@... | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  info@... | 11/17/08
What a Crock.  stan@... | 11/17/08
Qualified internal staff  joseph02 | 11/17/08
IT offshoring is exaggerated, IT labor shortage is real for dummies  rwgreene | 11/17/08
People who are applying ...  Ernest_CT | 11/17/08
If you want to know why Engineers are losing their jobs look in the mirror  JonathanSeer | 11/17/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  paul_s123 | 11/18/08
Jason, how can you possibly make such an obvious blunder?  bmerc | 11/18/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  dzabor@... | 11/18/08
Jason, I believe you're wrong here...  dinosaur_z | 11/18/08
The threat is real, it is immediate, and it will destroy our industry  terry flores | 11/18/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  Mercat | 11/18/08
bull droppings...  theantibush | 11/18/08
Actually...  Mercat | 11/19/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  Billcarmean | 11/18/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  wolfger | 11/21/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  ronjons6@... | 11/21/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  don_t | 12/19/08
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  rjt@... | 06/26/09
IT offshoring is NOT exaggerated and the IT labor pool is HUGE  Reality Bites | 06/26/09
RE: IT offshoring is exaggerated and the IT labor shortage is real  rjt@... | 06/26/09
Funny Math 5.2 vs. 3.2  TranMan | 06/29/09

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