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I think there is a balance to be struck
I'm not happy with the proliferation of cameras you describe, and am opposed to fishing expeditions on principle. I'd much rather see more police on the street (particularly in high crime areas), and more police officers who know their beats well enough that they know where to look for criminal activity, and who are trusted by the locals. All of this costs money, however.

I don't have any objection to people using camera phones to insure that the abuses of the police and others are exposed, but I also think that people should be just as willing to use their cellphones to report crimes and suspicious activity in a timely fashion. The police need to do their jobs right; but they do need to do their jobs and they do require help from ordinary citizens.

Spying is bad, but crime is worse. We need to work against both.
Posted by: John L. Ries   Posted on: 08/13/08  (Edited: 08/13/2008 @ 12:03) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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I think there is a balance to be struck  John L. Ries | 08/13/08
Balance: Cops & Citizens  Tom Steinert-Threlkeld ZDNet Moderator | 08/13/08
No objection to that (NT)  John L. Ries | 08/13/08
"Spying is bad, but crime is worse."  Henry Miller | 08/13/08
Works both ways  John L. Ries | 08/13/08
Police Surveillance  bfilipiak@... | 08/14/08
There's no money in it  Pliny the Elder | 08/13/08
Cop Watch is an example of what to avoid  jlafitte | 08/14/08
Misconduct isn't rare everywhere  mdsock@... | 08/14/08
Same where I live  mejohnsn | 08/26/08
EMP, it's the only way to go  Professor8 | 08/14/08
Maybe, Maybe not...  RS9 | 08/14/08
Individual Rights  JackandCoke | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  Dekerfman | 08/13/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  zwhittaker ZDNet Moderator | 08/13/08
London NEEDS those cameras... happy  jlafitte | 08/14/08
I understand London has them  Duuude | 08/14/08
Who is behind all this crime?  BALTHOR | 08/13/08
Automatic weapon?  RS9 | 08/14/08
Crime got out of control when poilce became the criminals  terry flores | 08/13/08
Jury duty  John L. Ries | 08/13/08
I've searched but couldn't find any reference  Pliny the Elder | 08/13/08
Not just criminals  Jack-Booted EULA | 08/13/08
okay  ThankYouThankYou | 08/14/08
nice one-sided analysis  jlafitte | 08/14/08
It doesn't say that  trent1 | 08/14/08
"One of the officers' nose was broken along with his sunglasses."  bmerc | 08/14/08
Abrogating our right to fight crime  davidferrera@... | 08/14/08
No good deed goes unpunished.  jlafitte | 08/14/08
That illustrates the point  trent1 | 08/14/08
Defending Liberty IS dangerous!  mejohnsn | 08/26/08
My predictions:  Henry Miller | 08/13/08
A sad prediction that may hold truth  Boot_Agnostic | 08/14/08
It will be official  trent1 | 08/14/08
Ah, but we are saved....  mejohnsn | 08/26/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  mnottfam@... | 08/14/08
Shooting Back (Steve Mann, wearable cameras, 1997)  gumption | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  nbuckley@... | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  WB3 | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  L7393 | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  ktramd | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  fastboxster | 08/14/08
I disagree  John L. Ries | 08/14/08
Police qualifications  CodeCurmudgeon | 08/14/08
Re: Police qualifications  fastboxster | 08/14/08
But why trust the "industrial psychologists"?  mejohnsn | 08/26/08
Missing the point . . .  datajam@... | 08/14/08
Cameras are good - abuse is bad  fastboxster | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  leonparky | 08/14/08
Do they accomplish the stated purpose?  stan@... | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  jlafitte | 08/14/08
This is why...  John L. Ries | 08/14/08
The ninth circle of Hell  jlafitte | 08/14/08
"Correct me if I'm wrong..."  bmerc | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  datajam@... | 08/14/08
Police Surveillance and abuse?  softwareFlunky | 08/14/08
Re: Scrapping the bottom of the barrel  fastboxster | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  stdo57@... | 08/14/08
Paranoia !  Gradius2 | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  stdo57@... | 08/14/08
Spell check is free.  bigjohnt@... | 08/14/08
In other words...  bmerc | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  abbie@... | 08/14/08
Big Brother, anyone?  SirCatlord | 08/14/08
Public Data?  datatransfer | 08/14/08
Hell no  Altotus | 08/19/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  JTF243@... | 08/14/08
Hey! That's an old link.  AtlantaTerry | 08/14/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  JTF243@... | 08/16/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  JTF243@... | 08/16/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  JTF243@... | 08/17/08
RE: Police Surveillance: Go Snoop, Yourself  Altotus | 08/19/08

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