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Hoo that could be painful very painful
ibm ,red hat, ubuntu working together.....

ough Microshot may feel this a bit
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Hoo that could be painful very painful  Quebec-french | 08/05/08
Can I get support & hardware for free too?  daMan25 | 08/06/08
...where I am wrong...  PollyProteus | 08/06/08
You want stuff? Get a job....or....  storm14k | 08/06/08
It's a business model,,,,get over it,  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
Wake up and observe life....  storm14k | 08/06/08
Wow, you mean that cause I do all my own work,,,,,  xuniL_z | 08/07/08
Pure lack of common sense...  storm14k | 08/07/08
More slowly this time.....  xuniL_z | 08/07/08
Lol @ unique...  storm14k | 08/07/08
LOL @ uninformed dogma  xuniL_z | 08/08/08
Such a bunch of childrens...  Jxn | 08/08/08
@Jxn  xuniL_z | 08/09/08
@ backwards linux guy  User07734 | 08/10/08
seriously?  xuniL_z | 08/11/08
what??  Khyron | 08/11/08
Kyron - You are on the right track.  xuniL_z | 08/11/08
Why can't ...  TripleII | 08/06/08
Why can't...  storm14k | 08/06/08
It's not bad, but it's embracing closed source.  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
Fact: There was no alternative  IT_User | 08/06/08
Should businesses have stayed on mainframes to 2008?  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
You're cracking me up...  storm14k | 08/06/08
Unfortunately for you...  xuniL_z | 08/07/08
You have read to many MS marketing  Jxn | 08/08/08
Unfortunately...  Four-Eyes | 08/06/08
Free and gratis  Jxn | 08/08/08
Trap? I can get all of my data out of windows easily.  xuniL_z | 08/10/08
Is a varmint who is caught in a trap still free?  Ole Man | 08/11/08
Horrible analogy  xuniL_z | 08/11/08
Not supposed to be an analogy  Ole Man | 08/13/08
hold your horses cowboy  Quebec-french | 08/06/08
America is socialist too!  Jack-Booted EULA | 08/06/08
wow that mean (nt)  Quebec-french | 08/06/08
So what's new?  MisterMiester | 08/06/08
So what's new?  Jack-Booted EULA | 08/06/08
You are 100% correct ...  MisterMiester | 08/06/08
You hit the nail on the head  maggietoo9 | 08/10/08
They couldn't tell you what socialism is....  storm14k | 08/06/08
Enough. Go to a politics blog if that's what you wish to discuss.  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
ok its stop here mr you just loose it biig time  Quebec-french | 08/06/08
Your posts are funny  markdean | 08/08/08
Enough of the truth???....typical.  storm14k | 08/06/08
There you go again.  xuniL_z | 08/07/08
It's depressing see xuniL_z answers to stom14k  Jxn | 08/08/08
Jxn  xuniL_z | 08/11/08
Enough - go to....  maggietoo9 | 08/10/08
You are confused....allow me to enlighten you  xuniL_z | 08/11/08
Huh?  USTechHead | 08/06/08
well im second it guy in a 3d render shop  Quebec-french | 08/06/08
That's cool it's your companies choice. It's just a tool an  USTechHead | 08/06/08
2nd IT guy in 3rd guy in rendering shop?????  JABBER_WOLF | 08/06/08
Message has been deleted.  Quebec-french | 08/07/08
You are completely wrong.  maggietoo9 | 08/10/08
This makes me laugh  markdean | 08/08/08
RIGHT ON! nt  shooter902 | 08/11/08
You are absolutely right about that!  maggietoo9 | 08/10/08
The only support in Linux is  Richard B | 08/06/08
The only support in Linux is no support - eg ASUS  binstock@... | 08/06/08
This is silly  markdean | 08/08/08
As with Microsoft, no difference  Jxn | 08/08/08
When did you last get any "support" from Microsoft without $$$$  maggietoo9 | 08/10/08
When did you ever get "support" from Microsoft without a hassle?  Sinbad713 | 08/29/08
everything FREE?  Update victim | 08/06/08
Where can I get hardware at just cost then?  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
Ahhh the capitalist pipe dream strikes again...  storm14k | 08/06/08
You continue to mix up human decency and fellowship with some governernment  xuniL_z | 08/09/08
Take two valium.......  Ole Man | 08/09/08
by "worked" you mean......  maggietoo9 | 08/10/08
That is a frightening statement.....  maggietoo9 | 08/10/08
maggietoo9, you are taking a very libera view, but ignoring that ....  xuniL_z | 08/12/08
You mean wholesale, right?  markdean | 08/08/08
Insightful  xuniL_z | 08/10/08
Your first assumption is wrong.  bjbrock | 08/07/08
Yeah buddy, and on top of that  markdean | 08/08/08
Free Tech Support Here  starcannon99022@... | 08/19/08
Painful????  rMatey | 08/08/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  raymarc001 | 08/05/08
Tar balls? Kernel compiling?  Zogg | 08/05/08
uhhh... what?  doh123 | 08/05/08
Played with all versions of Linux?  CodeCurmudgeon | 08/05/08
And a good thing, too  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/05/08
Shhh....  storm14k | 08/06/08
you shhhh  Monkey_MCSE | 08/06/08
I saw thay it was....  storm14k | 08/07/08
Pure, unadulterated FUD.  TripleII | 08/05/08
Old dated.... can't you at least update the lines?  devlin_X | 08/06/08
1998 called...  jasonp@... | 08/06/08
Oh really...  bargeemike | 08/06/08
the problem  dragonbite | 08/06/08
Funny, you always seem to neglect  devlin_X | 08/06/08
Bloody typical of Linux Fanatics...  bargeemike | 08/08/08
Talk about a fanatic!  Ole Man | 08/08/08
And another one...  bargeemike | 08/12/08
you have no clue.....  xuniL_z | 08/12/08
@ bargeemike & Xunil_z  Ole Man | 08/13/08
Windows is easy to install???  jvin248 | 08/06/08
Vista installed in about a half hour  marks055@... | 08/06/08
If you had to search for DLLs to install windows....  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
Windows is easy to install???  jvin248 | 08/06/08
ROFL! Foot stuck in a tarball is it?  Chad_z | 08/06/08
Easy to Uninstall?  stillgolfing | 08/06/08
RE: Easy to Uninstall???  bfilipiak@... | 08/06/08
You said it better!  stillgolfing | 08/06/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  obuena | 08/06/08
MS DOS 4.0 and Windows 386 died a long time ago.  Update victim | 08/06/08
Lovey by another name?  TtfnJohn | 08/08/08
Installing Software and drivers:  starcannon99022@... | 08/19/08
Great news! A smart coordinated attack on all fronts.  pjotr123 | 08/05/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  goingbust | 08/05/08
Who cares if it plays blue-gay nt  ThereThere | 08/07/08
I've given up on linux  kcredden2 | 08/05/08
Tip: here's an easy guide for beginners with Ubuntu 8.04  pjotr123 | 08/05/08
Done that!  elderlybloke | 08/06/08
dont blame the OS...  doh123 | 08/05/08
I was mad at Ubuntu when I started  iansane | 08/05/08
ignorant...  doh123 | 08/05/08
To say Linux is difficult and complicated....  storm14k | 08/06/08
Well said  fr0thy2 | 08/06/08
Jeezus, I feel the SAME WAY!! I hate Windows.  Predator106 | 08/06/08
You might be suprised...  storm14k | 08/06/08
Surprised????  xuniL_z | 08/07/08
It really is a mystery  KTLA | 08/06/08
Yeah right...  Duke E. Love | 08/08/08
It's *illegal* on these blogs to utter you don't like Linux....  xuniL_z | 08/10/08
Oh, italics...  zkiwi | 08/05/08
hmmm  xuniL_z | 08/10/08
A question...  TripleII | 08/05/08
re: A question...  none none | 08/05/08
You crack me up!  devlin_X | 08/06/08
Is this the latest pre-packaged FUD...  storm14k | 08/06/08
I wondered the same thing  Chad_z | 08/06/08
Could say the samething about Windows  voska1 | 08/06/08
Well said - in reverse  oldbaritone | 08/06/08
Will NOT install... You may be right on that  Update victim | 08/06/08
ditto  ukstar@... | 08/08/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  Loverock Davidson | 08/05/08
Warning: segfaulting brain.  pjotr123 | 08/05/08
What part of me being so right upsets you the most? (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 08/05/08
You being right?  zkiwi | 08/05/08
Yes me being right  Loverock Davidson | 08/05/08
I want Linux....  storm14k | 08/06/08
Upset no, bemused by you thinking you're right yes  zkiwi | 08/06/08
So which is your favorite.....  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
Lovey, My dad once told me that  Update victim | 08/08/08
Plus ...  markbn | 08/05/08
Agreed  Loverock Davidson | 08/05/08
How's it going Loverock?  D. T. Schmitz | 08/05/08
Good  Loverock Davidson | 08/05/08
RE: updating linux box  iansane | 08/05/08
It is annoying  Loverock Davidson | 08/05/08
To the Tune of 'The Beverly Hill Hillbillies'...  BanjoPaterson | 08/06/08
RE: To the tune of the "Beverly Hillbillies'  bfilipiak@... | 08/06/08
To the Tune of 'The Beverly Hill Hillbillies'...  morph000 | 08/07/08
It really isn't that people don't want Linux...  jasonp@... | 08/06/08
Hey, Rockhead, what new OS, besides Windows, ...  OButterball | 08/06/08
Loverock: The Linux Historian  RandallR | 08/06/08
Loverock  ticthak@... | 08/06/08
I agree with Loverock  Dan the Digital Dog | 08/06/08
IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  mrdt | 08/05/08
Thats because....  storm14k | 08/06/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  xyz10_z | 08/05/08
Major app providers such as Intuit...  bjbrock | 08/05/08
Only one thing holds back Linux  ThereThere | 08/07/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  nxtgen59@... | 08/05/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  jackofalltradesmasterofnone | 08/05/08
Just asking  AndyCee | 08/06/08
Update or fresh install?  storm14k | 08/06/08
Pick a card, any card...  dragonbite | 08/06/08
What are you doing to cause that?  rhomp2002@... | 08/06/08
Your reading on the prescience meter...  techboy_z | 08/05/08
re: lemmings  iansane | 08/05/08
just to clarify  Larry Dignan ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/08
3% is already here ....  MisterMiester | 08/05/08
Forrester figures  Larry Dignan ZDNet Moderator | 08/06/08
Look at the data trend for Linux ...  MisterMiester | 08/06/08
Deviation?  stillgolfing | 08/06/08
And ...  MisterMiester | 08/06/08
Sorry but....  devlin_X | 08/06/08
And Forrester is automatically right?  TtfnJohn | 08/08/08
Please post your source?  TripleII | 08/05/08
Net Applications is not accurate ...  MisterMiester | 08/05/08
Thanks, the above is going into part two.  TripleII | 08/05/08
Here's what's really sad ...  MisterMiester | 08/05/08
Try www.mostly-microsoft.blogspot.com. Shows a 99.92% edge for Windows,  transposeIT | 08/05/08
I don't understand?  TripleII | 08/05/08
And at what point will people become sick  Pliny the Elder | 08/05/08
You don't find it ironic???  techboy_z | 08/06/08
Linux Warp... ?  jollygreenguy@... | 08/05/08
OS2 performed as well as any MS OS.  bjbrock | 08/05/08
Not true. Until 1997, I was an avid user of OS/2...  HypnoToad | 08/06/08
Comparing Apples to Oranges?  jollygreenguy@... | 08/06/08
The OS/2 problem was not only marketing  Update victim | 08/08/08
Precisely  John L. Ries | 08/08/08
Never say never ...  MisterMiester | 08/05/08
RE: Standards  Bozzer | 08/05/08
I agree  mombo | 08/06/08
Are you an IT person?  dragonbite | 08/06/08
are you talking OS or Apps?  pfyearwood | 08/06/08
Note to IBM: Do NOT include Notes!  ye | 08/05/08
Following your logic . . .  JLHenry | 08/05/08
To the nearest $100 million...  Anton Philidor | 08/05/08
Correction.  TripleII | 08/05/08
Yup all the others are much lower  tonymcs@... | 08/05/08
Try using the grey matter you are blessed with.  TripleII | 08/05/08
Accurate numbers  Anton Philidor | 08/06/08
Awesome feedback.  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
Well said....  GeiselS@... | 08/06/08
That isn't the current trend.  TripleII | 08/06/08
Some data points.  TripleII | 08/05/08
Congrats!  Qbt | 08/05/08
Wow Lotus Notes by 2009  tonymcs@... | 08/05/08
Lotus Notes 8 is not your grandfather's Lotus Notes  rreddekop@... | 08/08/08
"Microsoft Free"? I thought Microsoft had a monpoly? (NT)  PB_z | 08/05/08
MS crapping their pants.  bjbrock | 08/05/08
So they damn well should be ...  fr0thy2 | 08/06/08
Say what you want about Vista  marks055@... | 08/06/08
how many licenses actually install Vista  dragonbite | 08/06/08
Regardless the comparison to Linux stands. nt  marks055@... | 08/06/08
Of course it has. But sales do not indicate the total number of users.  Update victim | 08/08/08
I love the competition for MS - but I don't think  USTechHead | 08/06/08
Just like Apple fears  GuidingLight | 08/06/08
Get a new slogan  CreepinJesus | 08/06/08
Yawn  AndyCee | 08/06/08
Actually he has a point...  USTechHead | 08/06/08
True enough...  AndyCee | 08/06/08
If IBM is contributing software...  wolf_z | 08/06/08
IBM is contributing *some* software  dragonbite | 08/06/08
Woo Hoo!  dragonbite | 08/06/08
*This* is the year of the Linux desktop. Yawn....  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/08
sure, I'll buy some  dragonbite | 08/06/08
Certainly it's the year of the Linux UMPC  TripleII | 08/06/08
OK you read it here folks - bookmark the post -  USTechHead | 08/06/08
No, 2008, why wait?  TripleII | 08/06/08
Just gathering information for the EOY...  USTechHead | 08/06/08
Really, I find it exciting.  TripleII | 08/06/08
While I find that ...  USTechHead | 08/09/08
"i just love goading the nuts who want you to use their tool"  Ole Man | 08/09/08
you forget the whole market is expanding.  xuniL_z | 08/13/08
No one is saying that it is the year of the Linux desktop...  TtfnJohn | 08/08/08
Not if I have to use Lotus Notes  jpr75_z | 08/06/08
Notes is another big problem  pikeman666 | 08/06/08
Notes has transformed more than you know  rreddekop@... | 08/08/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  usmc_nam_vet | 08/06/08
I like the concept of Linux and Open Source  James Quinn | 08/06/08
Does it really matter at the end of the day?  nlancaster@... | 08/06/08
wishful thinking again  marks055@... | 08/06/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  FromThe80s | 08/06/08
Ha ha good luck with that.  Skullet | 08/06/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  mwtimpe@... | 08/06/08
IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista nt  USTechHead | 08/06/08
Linux a HUGE waste of time  GeiselS@... | 08/06/08
So in other words you consult with MS technologies...  storm14k | 08/06/08
Like Beethoven at the keyboard  fr0thy2 | 08/06/08
You know you seem to have a lot of issues  USTechHead | 08/06/08
What false idea or incorrect view did he have?  storm14k | 08/06/08
LOL - you guys crack me up, again with the  USTechHead | 08/06/08
I have an easy way to verify it....  storm14k | 08/06/08
re:stormy - thanks for proving my point...and yes that  USTechHead | 08/09/08
anecdotal.....  xuniL_z | 08/07/08
- Thank you! ... nt  USTechHead | 08/09/08
Coming from the King of anecdotes  Ole Man | 08/09/08
Then why...  TripleII | 08/06/08
You know I find comments like this funny...  USTechHead | 08/06/08
You are right, to a point.  TripleII | 08/06/08
Its also funny...  storm14k | 08/06/08
There are always trade-offs ...  mwagner@... | 08/08/08
Sounds like a great Microsoft sales pitch  Ole Man | 08/08/08
Good for all - including Windows !  mhenriday | 08/06/08
I agree, but getting the *nux distro's to  USTechHead | 08/06/08
Microsoft=sleeping giant  dragonbite | 08/06/08
Finally....  storm14k | 08/06/08
Be careful - there are 4 fingers pointing backwards...nt  USTechHead | 08/06/08
And you pointed 4 at yourself...  storm14k | 08/06/08
Keep it going...just more proof of my comments - thank you. nt  USTechHead | 08/09/08
Your comments need no proof  Ole Man | 08/09/08
Incompatable  epcraig | 08/06/08
Watch out for animals that feel threatened!  Henrik Moller | 08/06/08
It is even more those that depend on MS.  TripleII | 08/06/08
Fur (and chairs) are going to fly!  dragonbite | 08/06/08
They have to follow through.  snaresV64 | 08/06/08
I say pick an OEM.  TripleII | 08/06/08
If anything keeps Ballmer awake at night, it's..  Userama | 08/06/08
You're a little behind the times buddy....  storm14k | 08/06/08
Why, you present no facts.  TripleII | 08/06/08
well sorry for you  Quebec-french | 08/06/08
so nobody has heard of..  dragonbite | 08/06/08
Pentaho saved our hides!  storm14k | 08/06/08
cool  dragonbite | 08/06/08
You might want to check Talend/Jaspersoft  storm14k | 08/06/08
I'm a big Firefox fan.  Userama | 08/06/08
"Microsoft-free"  dragonbite | 08/06/08
tame the wild bastards  utugau | 08/06/08
so make Linux into Microsoft?  dragonbite | 08/06/08
Excellent post!  Userama | 08/06/08
Non-issues  storm14k | 08/06/08
lol Microsoft free  croberts | 08/06/08
Choice scares you.  TripleII | 08/06/08
Not scared at all  croberts | 08/06/08
lets kill one monster at the time please (nt)  Quebec-french | 08/06/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  Richard B | 08/06/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  mwagner@... | 08/06/08
No further replies to this post will be accepted.  stillgolfing | 08/06/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  jollygreenguy@... | 08/06/08
my bad, I need to click the correct REPLY button  jollygreenguy@... | 08/06/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  leon.j@... | 08/06/08
It isn't short term profits, it's the long term profits, if they can  softwareFlunky | 08/06/08
A MS-free desktop is what I've been using for years  John L. Ries | 08/06/08
Again, why term it "MS Free"?  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
Actually...  John L. Ries | 08/06/08
Not a radical......I was referring to phrasing  xuniL_z | 08/07/08
Fortunately...  John L. Ries | 08/08/08
To answer your question...  John L. Ries | 08/06/08
Really?  Richard Flude | 08/07/08
CALs  xuniL_z | 08/12/08
Correct ...  mwagner@... | 08/08/08
Part of the deal is...  John L. Ries | 08/08/08
Message has been deleted.  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
How can anyone be for paying someone to share thoughts on using your OS???  xuniL_z | 08/06/08
Wow...do you just make this stuff up?  storm14k | 08/06/08
Reality is against you.  xuniL_z | 08/07/08
"things aren't going to change in your lifetime"  Ole Man | 08/08/08
"an intelligent person would get the picture"  Ole Man | 08/08/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  Dan the Digital Dog | 08/06/08
Wow 5 or 6 ants to go up against elephant  tonymcs@... | 08/07/08
Lotus Notes 8 is not your grandfather's Notes  rreddekop@... | 08/08/08
More ZDNET troll bait  Duke E. Love | 08/08/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  ukstar@... | 08/08/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  Woodyboy | 08/08/08
Ubuntu-Linux Vs. Microsoft Windows Vista Vs. Apple OS X:Lepoard  robtjr30 | 08/08/08
Some how it seems cruel...  mikifinaz1@... | 08/08/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  rMatey | 08/08/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  rMatey | 08/08/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  Vrezh | 08/08/08
Message has been deleted.  spinin | 08/09/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  maggietoo9 | 08/10/08
Not really  maggietoo9 | 08/10/08
The World is Ready, it is Linux that is Not  mejohnsn | 08/10/08
Possible causes for problems.  joe.smetona@... | 08/11/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  jfreedle2@... | 08/10/08
Maybe this will change your mind.  joe.smetona@... | 08/11/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  bargeemike | 08/12/08
Finally a bit of sanity  starcannon99022@... | 08/19/08
Do you really want to run Lotus  tien'kou | 09/02/08
RE: IBM, Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat gang up on Vista  crabbypup | 09/08/08

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