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LOL... get too greedy and lose your focus. This is the eventual outcome, and Like IBM, Microsoft will have to pare down, rethink and take some serious blows. I don't think Microsoft will go away (too bad...) but they are sure going to get a lot smaller.

I have to be honest here, while I would hope for a complete down fall the reality is I see Microsoft dropping from 90% of the desktop to more like 60-70% as Linux and Mac will make up the difference.

Microsoft will suffer losses but the truth is (and that's barring some major miracle) they will still be the dominate player in the desktop arena. Just not as big or strong as they used to be. And this is good for US the consumer. devil
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...  Linux User 147560 | 04/09/08
Smaller MS = Better competition  Mikael_z | 04/12/08
of course windoze will colapse  Linux Geek | 04/09/08
hahahah  jamesrayg | 04/09/08
Coke thought that ... then came Pepsie  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
It's all going towards Unix anyway  TheBishop | 04/10/08
NT Kernel = UNIX  philpenn | 04/10/08
?  TardHugger@... | 04/15/08
Really... You make a great argument!  bryhawks | 04/10/08
1 percent of what market?  Chad_z | 04/11/08
The OS will fade in importance...  Al_Fresco | 04/11/08
Another freetard in deep denial  Duke E. Love | 04/11/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  none none | 04/09/08
Cue the Linux fanfare....  JT82 | 04/09/08
Very true, why o why has Steve Balmer been at Microsoft so long???  DonnieBoy | 04/09/08
They enjoy the Monkey Boy Dance's  fr0thy2 | 04/09/08
OLPC?  rpmyers1 | 04/09/08
And SuSE's "App-armour". Same trick, different name. (nt)  hkommedal | 04/09/08
I'm sorry, but.....  cheesyone | 04/10/08
Mandatory Access Control  Jerven | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  jparrott@... | 04/09/08
It was really Microsft's only option to create more lock-in. They need  DonnieBoy | 04/09/08
Can IMAGINE a MODULAR Windows???  swbobcat | 04/09/08
You have no clue  jamesrayg | 04/09/08
"everyday all day you ignorant trolls spam forums "  Ole Man | 04/09/08
I guess in your case, Ignorance is bliss ...  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
Re: by sending out a hammer. . . And then the HANDLE is missing. (nt)  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Missing handle? That's what the pliers are for. Only $79.99 from Microsoft.  fr0thy2 | 04/09/08
Oh ! I missed that. Does it FEATURE 2 handles, or  hkommedal | 04/10/08
Of course, you wouldn't realise  fr0thy2 | 04/09/08
I think they are likely to have quite a few years left.  hkommedal | 04/10/08
Oh?  pkrdk | 04/14/08
MS doesn't have a choice  Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/09/08
MS got it wrong from day 1  TigerLilly0556 | 04/09/08
"After nearly 25 yrs I'm learning Linux"  fr0thy2 | 04/09/08
A endorsement from you is bad news...  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
Funny, say Gartner collasping under its own  Boot_Agnostic | 04/09/08
Re: Funny  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
Couldn't be more wrong,  jamesrayg | 04/09/08
High School???  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
the 640k memory quote is a myth  rtk | 04/09/08
Re: Vista beats OS X and Linux in everything. . .  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Did they ...  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
"Vista beats OS X and Linux in everything" - How little you know  fr0thy2 | 04/10/08
RE: Couldn't be more wrong,  Axsimulate | 04/10/08
The 8088 had 20 address bits  plyler_b@... | 04/11/08
some are just not old enough  llval@... | 04/13/08
Vista ???  pkrdk | 04/14/08
It's your opinion to have  Boot_Agnostic | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  Loverock Davidson | 04/09/08
That's odd...  zkiwi | 04/09/08
Just a stooge  Hemlock Stones | 04/09/08
The inertia changed ...  fr0thy2 | 04/10/08
Spoken like a true flipper of hamburgers...  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
Only a "a true flipper of hamburgers..."  Ole Man | 04/12/08
RE: Windows 7 chatter having a significant negative effect on Vista  X41 | 04/10/08
who is not a bit anti ms at least  llval@... | 04/13/08
And, that is the advantage for Linux. You can mix / match / take with you /  DonnieBoy | 04/09/08
EVEN No_Ax is learning  fr0thy2 | 04/09/08
Something's been lacking for a long time.  joe.smetona@... | 04/09/08
Another HUGE advantage for Linux is...  cheesyone | 04/10/08
But there is one thing they don't have..  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
Marketing  lordshipmayhem | 04/11/08
Distros  btljooz | 04/16/08
My solution to Windows....  nucrash | 04/09/08
Interestingly enough ...  mwagner@... | 04/09/08
"play on Microsoft field with Microsoft's rules"  Ole Man | 04/09/08
Chasing cars ...  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
More like Apple  The_Quietman | 04/09/08
Stumble & Fall - whose rules?  lordshipmayhem | 04/12/08
Man, I have been saying this for 5 years.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/09/08
Agree 100%  Stuka | 04/09/08
No_Ax is learning ....  fr0thy2 | 04/09/08
FOSS, sorry just doesn't meet my clients needs  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/09/08
Sorry to hear that...  storm14k | 04/09/08
I am quite sure that he knows his own clients better  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Nice excuse for FOSS's shortcommings  GuidingLight | 04/10/08
Tell me about YOUR clients  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/11/08
Erm?  zkiwi | 04/09/08
FOSS Crapware  thungurknifur | 04/11/08
And the ABMers will have a field day!  ye | 04/09/08
Not so much... At least for me.  James Quinn | 04/09/08
Linux Runs New and Old  cyberscan | 04/09/08
I think you will find that part of the reason for that is that  hkommedal | 04/09/08
correction, linux runs old  rtk | 04/09/08
It runs all MY new stuff just fine.  hkommedal | 04/09/08
granted.  rtk | 04/09/08
About my ATI card from 2007.  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Resistance from the industry ...  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
That's Linux' problem.  frgough | 04/10/08
Interesting theory from frgough.  odubtaig | 04/10/08
ATI, however, expect the community to do all the donkey work  Ole Man | 04/10/08
One problem with your statement...  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
Re: And the ABMers will have a field day!  none none | 04/09/08
Got me on a technicality!  ye | 04/09/08
Re: Got me on a technicality!  none none | 04/09/08
Hmm, not really  GuidingLight | 04/10/08
LOL - Well Said!!!!!  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
AMBers don't matter at all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/09/08
Yes and no....  James Quinn | 04/09/08
Not really  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/09/08
Quite so. ABMers are pretty much irrelevant here. It is  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Bitty - 2 little points of facts  jacarter3 | 04/11/08
Well what do you expect...  storm14k | 04/09/08
There may be an alternative to this.  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Alternative  Dumber_z | 04/09/08
If MS makes its decisions  Michael Kelly | 04/10/08
Legacy SW  levinson | 04/09/08
Legacy software also dies.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/09/08
Legacy Software  Dumber_z | 04/09/08
If a future Windows was more module-based, then  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Re: Man, I have been saying this for 5 years.  none none | 04/09/08
No need for support.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/09/08
In many ways, Vista is the first volly in ...  mwagner@... | 04/09/08
"the first volly in ... " the first volly in .. .. this battle"  Ole Man | 04/09/08
Wrong about the 3rd party drivers and code...  cheesyone | 04/10/08
Ummm do you really understand what he's talking about...  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
Nicely said...never thought about it that way.  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
True to an extent  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/11/08
They can't do that, either  Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/09/08
Then why buy windows if you cut legacy....  dunn@... | 04/09/08
$3000 for Vista is BullS**t  High Plains | 04/10/08
Thou hast said it  Ole Man | 04/10/08
Why they did what they did to Vista I'll never know  Ole Man | 04/10/08
Your memory is terrible  rtk | 04/10/08
You really wish, don't you..........  Ole Man | 04/10/08
Says the guy  rtk | 04/10/08
Thank you for bringing that up  Ole Man | 04/12/08
Is legacy software really the problem?  mikewarns | 04/09/08
About the Office UI  CobraA1 | 04/09/08
Re: About the Office UI  mikewarns | 04/09/08
What's more stange is  pkrdk | 04/14/08
Office 2007 has amny features I do NOT like and will NOT use the suite....  carlsf@... | 04/09/08
agree some  CobraA1 | 04/09/08
After a bit of digging . . .  CobraA1 | 04/09/08
Form the OS marketer's point of view ...  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
Re: Form the OS marketer's point of view ...  mikewarns | 04/10/08
That and new fileformats  thungurknifur | 04/11/08
Double standard and hard pill to swallow for stone-age die-hards  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 04/10/08
Well that's one OPINION ... and well we know what that is worth  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
Virtualization  thungurknifur | 04/11/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  Windows Defender | 04/09/08
Errr, because they have to?  fr0thy2 | 04/09/08
You are so obviously and amateur...  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
Gee In 5 Years Time...  swbobcat | 04/09/08
Ge in Five Years TIme  Dumber_z | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  notlehs | 04/09/08
Very true  mcicogni | 04/09/08
PC side coudl live with one or two versions  royalef | 04/09/08
Ultimate is $20 more costly than Windows XP Pro  ye | 04/09/08
Marketing strategy ...  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
stop making broad assumptions.  rtk | 04/09/08
making broad assumptions?  Ole Man | 04/10/08
Or ignoring logic...  rtk | 04/10/08
It would serve thee far better  Ole Man | 04/10/08
you're too much fun.  rtk | 04/10/08
...radical change  Dumber_z | 04/09/08
I didn't charge clients thousands of dollars for a report  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 04/09/08
Maybe you should? happy [nt]  olePigeon | 04/09/08
It's the same old story.  odubtaig | 04/09/08
Most consultants are not only underqualified  Ole Man | 04/09/08
Re: "Sanitation Engineers". . . Well I dread the day they  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Well spoken  Ole Man | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  hypermark | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  daliaga@... | 04/09/08
RE: One size DOSEN'T fit all?  d_suse | 04/09/08
Linux makes use of modules to a large extent. If you  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Vista is a flop like Millenium!  daliaga@... | 04/09/08
Oh no. Win ME carries the flop  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Oh no. Win ME carries the flop "crown".  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Linux is a flop! Vista sold 150 millions copies.  qmlscycrajg | 04/10/08
Wrong.  frgough | 04/10/08
Not to Microsoft...  TheWerewolf | 04/10/08
Most uninstalled  symbolset | 04/10/08
He's right about one thing, though  Ole Man | 04/10/08
Oh, I doubt that.  rtk | 04/10/08
Show me the numbers and proof of that please...  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
Look it up yourself  Ole Man | 04/12/08
Microsoft even knows  Clewin | 04/09/08
Is MacDonald on the Vista Design Team?  Steven Rogers | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  Geezer Dude | 04/09/08
Try this with Windows  Michael Of Atlanta | 04/09/08
Try what with Windows?  ye | 04/09/08
I should have been more clear...  Michael Of Atlanta | 04/09/08
I've done plenty of installs. Haven't had a problem with them.  ye | 04/09/08
Windows rot is FUD?  storm14k | 04/09/08
Windows does get slower over time  voska1 | 04/10/08
Depends on the user not the OS...  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
Message has been deleted.  Ole Man | 04/09/08
Not just install SO  green alien | 04/09/08
Things like having ALL personal files on a separate  hkommedal | 04/09/08
Create versions for specific uses?  PB_z | 04/09/08
Just a couple of examples:  hkommedal | 04/09/08
True to a point  coffeeshark | 04/09/08
Can you say Apple for All?  iMarc | 04/09/08
Only if it comes with Windows preinstalled.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/09/08
Mmm.. meanwhile, here in the real world...  TheWerewolf | 04/10/08
RE: Unless a Miracle Happens!  netzd | 04/09/08
Linux is way ahead.  PMDubuc | 04/09/08
Let me help you because you're lost.  storm14k | 04/09/08
I wish Windows users would hit google.  odubtaig | 04/09/08
And if you need Microsoft help?  Ole Man | 04/09/08
Reboot and call me back ...  The Smoking Man | 04/09/08
if you knew anything about Linux....  mdsmedia | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  netzd | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  jay@... | 04/09/08
Hail captain obvious  davey23 | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  mwagner@... | 04/09/08
I see you running around for a long time yet  Ole Man | 04/09/08
I see you  mdemuth | 04/09/08
I see no evidence of anything you say  Ole Man | 04/09/08
Old Man or Old Dog  High Plains | 04/10/08
What are you trying to say?  Ole Man | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  Geezer Dude | 04/09/08
You described Linux there  fr0thy2 | 04/09/08
Is it Mac time?  davidr69 | 04/09/08
If you need 100% compatibility why would you...  ye | 04/09/08
Why I would consider a Mac ...  davidr69 | 04/09/08
Because  frgough | 04/10/08
Free advice to Redmond:  SpikeyMike | 04/09/08
Sounds familiar  Hemlock Stones | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  ceh4702 | 04/09/08
Gartner Finally Sees the Light  cyberscan | 04/09/08
Bill wants to work with immigrants  BALTHOR | 04/09/08
Use Wine, not a Newer Windows  cyberscan | 04/09/08
To Wine or Not to Wine  Geezer Dude | 04/09/08
Wine is great...  frgough | 04/10/08
You have got to research your subject.  odubtaig | 04/10/08
Problem is Ballmer  GeiselS@... | 04/09/08
Larry - story suggestion...  gdstark13 | 04/09/08
Mo' MemreyMulti=Ultie64&7, Compromise  VONDRASHEK@... | 04/09/08
Isometric maybe !!!!!!!!!  rtirman37@... | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  The_Quietman | 04/09/08
K.I.S.S. Right?  Narg | 04/09/08
Does nobody have a long time memory?  CobraA1 | 04/09/08
agreed!  merc2dogs` | 04/09/08
"Trying to find something in the registry is incredibly more difficult"  Ole Man | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  woodmont | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  Rambo Tribble | 04/09/08
The solution to "complexity" is 50 different versions?  mlambert890@... | 04/09/08
spot on  jiagebusen | 04/09/08
Um  frgough | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  ralphrides | 04/09/08
Solution...  mikifinaz1@... | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  atari8bit@... | 04/09/08
RE: The fall of Rome/M$  bmujahid | 04/09/08
Must try out the new Ubuntu.  joe.smetona@... | 04/10/08
You don't need 20 different kernels.  kraterz | 04/09/08
Agreed  boed | 04/09/08
My Vista is faster than XP with only 1GB RAM  qmlscycrajg | 04/10/08
You can't be doing much with it then.  odubtaig | 04/10/08
Why then?  boed | 04/10/08
You asked, here are my replies...  Master Guru | 04/11/08
you don't need 100000000000000 linux distro  qmlscycrajg | 04/10/08
Absolutely 100% agreed.  kraterz | 04/10/08
I disagree slightly.  odubtaig | 04/10/08
Can be tuned with kernel parameters.  kraterz | 04/10/08
You already can.  odubtaig | 04/11/08
Gartner asked a question with no room to give the RIGHT answer  boed | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  Larry63 | 04/09/08
XXP  trm1945 | 04/09/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  vincent@... | 04/10/08
Collapsing Windows  w.caelli@... | 04/10/08
It is not Windows which is collapsing. It is your disk structure.  koby@... | 04/10/08
Modularity  D. T. Schmitz | 04/10/08
linux is just the kernel, NOT an OS  qmlscycrajg | 04/10/08
Hey Thanks  D. T. Schmitz | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Consistently Wrong  MSBassSinger | 04/10/08
WOW  Shadowbelly | 04/10/08
Just what would this world be like without American ingenuity?  MSBassSinger | 04/10/08
Just what would this world be like without...  Shadowbelly | 04/10/08
It's not even a fair comparison  MSBassSinger | 04/10/08
I know it very unlikely to be true, but it sounds like  hkommedal | 04/10/08
Untrue...  MSBassSinger | 04/10/08
That is not true and you know it!!  Shadowbelly | 04/10/08
You'll get what you want...  MSBassSinger | 04/10/08
Trully hope you're right  Shadowbelly | 04/10/08
A word on the US economy  odubtaig | 04/10/08
You need to put up your high horse  Ole Man | 04/10/08
WOW - for the most part your right.  socialism=nowhere | 04/11/08
If Gartner is wrong you must work for them.  storm14k | 04/11/08
this news is pure FUD  qmlscycrajg | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  Juergen Hartl | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  Axsimulate | 04/10/08
What MS will do  High Plains | 04/10/08
For how much??  Shadowbelly | 04/10/08
How much does it cost  High Plains | 04/10/08
A fair bit less, but NOT gratis. All systems can do this. (nt)  hkommedal | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  RamonFHerrera | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  RamonFHerrera | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  RamonFHerrera | 04/10/08
Another "clean break"? I doubt it.  mlgoff_59 | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  mcclung@... | 04/10/08
i wouldnt say necessarily more features  pcguy777 | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  Al_Fresco | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  whooliebacon | 04/10/08
Gartner Is Praying Windows Not Collapse  g15host | 04/10/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  cameljockey | 04/11/08
Same issues they've been facing for 10 years  Chad_z | 04/11/08
More troll bait from ZDNet  Duke E. Love | 04/11/08
Sounds like you hate freedom. Well, in the  hkommedal | 04/11/08
go figure why an imbecille was appointed president  llval@... | 04/13/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  spyro17@... | 04/11/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  njo_ldc@... | 04/11/08
Who cares about Gartner? Who is Garner to judge it?  qmlscycrajg | 04/13/08
Ultimately, every man will be his own judge  Ole Man | 04/13/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  markyannone | 04/14/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  n4lxl | 04/15/08
And here's the proof ...  ttocsmij | 04/16/08
Original Gartner Report Here  desmondhaynes | 05/05/08
Why is MS incapable of making it simpler?  brendan@... | 05/05/08
RE: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed  ujhrdngjk | 08/12/09

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