SP?
slopoke | 09/21/07
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I doubt they signed any contract
devils_advocate | 09/21/07
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The thing is...
John L. Ries | 09/21/07
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17 USC
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/07
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Judges take a dim view of people playing stupid. If you are going to use
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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That remains to be seen...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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EULAs don't enter into it
Teran | 09/21/07
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Afraid not.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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Re: Afraid not.
none none | 09/21/07
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A rose by any other name
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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But, this court case has NOTHING to do with END USERS.
DonnieBoy | 09/22/07
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Not quite the same
John L. Ries | 09/21/07
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Re: Not quite the same
none none | 09/21/07
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Technically they are the same
voska | 09/21/07
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But, this is nothing about END USERS. This is about a company using
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Re: That remains to be seen...
none none | 09/21/07
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Sorry but you are wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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Re: Sorry but you are wrong.
none none | 09/21/07
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If you call the GPL a leg
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/07
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Dude, your lame argument woin't mean
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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Re: Dude, your lame argument woin't mean
none none | 09/21/07
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In any case, END USERS are not involved in this case.
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Again, there are no END USERS involved in this case. So, better to use the
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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That depends. You give far too much
John Zern | 09/21/07
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Well, if this company is hoping to get a stupid judge, good luck, but, in
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Why not Microsoft can/will/does....
devlin_X | 09/22/07
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GPL is no End User License Agrement (EULA)
Jxn | 09/29/07
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Will be interested to see Monsoon's response
John L. Ries | 09/21/07
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I don't know that an email is "contacting"
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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That was the initial contact
John L. Ries | 09/21/07
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Completely fair
Tim Patterson | 09/21/07
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RE: GPL will get its day in court
KrisTheOracleGuy | 09/21/07
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My take is this was a
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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Similar except for differing on all counts
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/07
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Ah, but if I read it correctly
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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Follow up
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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It isn't a EULA
Teran | 09/21/07
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Correction to first sentence
Teran | 09/21/07
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Ah but they do need a license
voska | 09/21/07
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Need for a license
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/07
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Don't get so hung up on terminology. EULA is MS terminology for the
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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They are both licenses
voska | 09/21/07
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Well, in any case, this particular suit has nothing to do with END USERS.
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Yes, the copyright holder has the right to distribute copyrighted material,
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Maybe, maybe not
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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Re: Maybe, maybe not
none none | 09/21/07
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You're being purposely disingenuous
mdielmann | 09/21/07
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That is the best way to say it. You have to abide by copyright law UNLESS
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Not quite
voska | 09/21/07
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This is GPL in short.
Jxn | 09/29/07
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There are fundamental differences between the 2 types of licenses.
B.O.F.H. | 09/22/07
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I think you mean "licensee"
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/07
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Thanks, sometimes my fingers are faster than my brain!!
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Claims for relief
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/07
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Read the first sentence of the article.
Letophoro | 09/21/07
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Especially considering that a lot of the GPL does NOT apply to end users.
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Correction: none of the GPL applies to end users.
odubtaig | 09/22/07
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Correction to Correction
yyuko@... | 09/22/07
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Also with the GPL3, they added wording so the end user can pay a consultant
DonnieBoy | 09/22/07
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The GPL does at least grant rights to the end user. He is granted the right
DonnieBoy | 09/22/07
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looking forward to sue M$
Linux Geek | 09/21/07
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Huh? WHo is "we"?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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haven't you heard the news?
Linux Geek | 09/21/07
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There was nothing to hear.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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No, you are wrong
Jxn | 09/29/07
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Oh, just to lend you a clue...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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Oh, they have?
Jxn | 09/29/07
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So you saying that
John Zern | 09/21/07
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Not Microsoft....NEVER EVER!
devlin_X | 09/22/07
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Troll...
jasonp@... | 09/21/07
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In his case, a Really STUPID Troll.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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Yes, so please stop trolling No_Ax_to_Grind
Jxn | 09/29/07
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It already has
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/07
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I don't think so
none none | 09/21/07
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License, EULA, Turd, all the same.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/21/07
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Re: License, EULA, Turd, all the same.
none none | 09/21/07
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Been there, done that
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/21/07
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But, this case has nothing to do with END USERS, so calling
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Re: License, EULA, Turd, all the same.
none none | 09/22/07
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This is all about software distribution ...
George Mitchell | 09/21/07
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Right, if you are an end user, the GPL really only conveys rights to you.
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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Very clearly detailed
Ole Man | 09/23/07
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GPL is doomed
micks_tricks | 09/21/07
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Proprietary software suits are about 10000000x more likely, so it is the
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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You are right, it's about Crushing the
xuniL_z | 09/23/07
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You bet it will! That's why
Linux User 147560 | 09/22/07
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Here we go. Let's get the LITTLE guy.
xuniL_z | 09/23/07
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You don't have a clue, do you?
Jxn | 09/29/07
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This will hurt linux
micks_tricks | 09/21/07
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Complying with the GPL really is quite simple. This won't scare anybody
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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gpl in the courts...
Arm A. Geddon | 09/21/07
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For END USERS, the GPL really only conveys rights to you, so, all of this
DonnieBoy | 09/21/07
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How about this
THEE WOLF | 09/23/07
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Re: How about this
none none | 09/23/07
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Hmmm
Jxn | 09/29/07
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Where is Google's source code for it's
xuniL_z | 09/23/07
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B.O.F.H. | 09/23/07
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