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Because..: It's not how many holes that are EXPLOITED that determine how secure something is, it's how many holes EXIST.

Let's use an analogy. Did you believe America was secure against terrorist attacks on September 10, 2001? Did your perception of this change after September 11th? Did you realize we're really a lot more vulnerable than previously thought?

You see, the number of "holes" in national security didn't increase on September 11th, but the perception of them as a threat did.

That is why security is more about perception than any objective measure.

Objectively, we'd need to count the number of holes that exist (all of them, not just the ones found), and rank them on severity.

But this can never practically be done. If we could find all of the security holes (which we can't), then virtually all software products would be perfectly secure.

Certainly, with the number and severity of flaws currently being exploited, Windows is more dangerous to use. But, in absolute terms, is it less secure? We can never really know.; Posted by: d_jedi Posted on: 11/25/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Author a Microsoft Shill? bidemytime | 11/24/04

Well, you know some things are just hard to swallow! NT dave95 | 11/24/04

It IS a matter of perception.. d_jedi | 11/24/04

Oh, give me a BREAK! Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/24/04

Because.. d_jedi | 11/25/04

And So bidemytime | 11/26/04

If you want to believe that, then fine.. d_jedi | 11/26/04

Just admit it, there's a problem that they haven't fixed since day one Rude Union | 11/26/04

Re: Rude union d_jedi | 11/26/04

Another house analogy d_jedi dave95 | 11/27/04

Crapple Users are Fanatics! xbee | 11/24/04

Best troll yet tic swayback | 11/24/04

Could it be.. Macs are actually better? richman555 | 11/24/04

I switched 3 years ago... DebianDog | 11/24/04

I did it too Ken_z | 11/24/04

Having used both , Mac's aren't better but... voska | 11/24/04

Could it be Linux User 147560 | 11/24/04

Used both! dave95 | 11/24/04

When it comes to... BitTwiddler | 11/24/04

A lot of people ... don't understand the technology alterego_z | 11/24/04

A lot of people ... don't understand the technology jisgod | 11/24/04

ha DebianDog | 11/24/04

Which, I might add... Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/24/04

I always figured... Atlant | 11/29/04

Cost of switching prohibitive home_user | 12/01/04

The exodus continues Chad_z | 11/24/04

Yes, if I could BUILD a Mac ... Judas I. | 11/24/04

OpenPOWER nucrash | 11/24/04

Mac may not be much more expensive ITGuy04 | 11/24/04

But had you built PA-ITGuy | 11/24/04

Bzzt, wrong ITGuy04 | 11/24/04

Not really voska | 11/24/04

Not wrong. PA-ITGuy | 11/24/04

Your loss. (NT) Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/24/04

This is actually a good point BitTwiddler | 11/24/04

I would be satisfied PA-ITGuy | 11/24/04

Why? No one else can. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/24/04

Aside from the Mac cloners, no one else has tried mds_z | 11/29/04

It's a cost issue home_user | 12/01/04

PCs break easier, and quicker under children abuse Hard Cider | 12/02/04

ANNND...! Hard Cider | 12/02/04

Me too! Chad_z | 11/25/04

My beef as well dave95 | 11/24/04

Your beef? openMind | 11/24/04

So, in the time you ... Judas I. | 11/24/04

Self Service & Lifespan tic swayback | 11/24/04

My PC died after 4 years ITGuy04 | 11/24/04

I price compare Chad_z | 11/25/04

Not a legitimate choice for gamers.. d_jedi | 11/24/04

And? rpmyers1 | 11/24/04

No, no, no! d_jedi | 11/24/04

This the reason I don't buy Macs voska | 11/24/04

Tough sell on that one Rick_K | 11/26/04

Who cares? Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/24/04

To each his own d_jedi | 11/25/04

Survey: Some iPod users dumping PCs for Macs Loverock Davidson | 11/24/04

You are correct alterego_z | 11/24/04

You are incorrect.. d_jedi | 11/24/04

And you know this because...? Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/25/04

.. because I do? d_jedi | 11/25/04

You should give it a try Rick_K | 11/26/04

Unfortunately... d_jedi | 11/26/04

Linsux is the antichrist of computing... Jeff Spicoli | 11/24/04

Ooo, yeah, and just THINK ... Judas I. | 11/24/04

Well, the article did say.. PA-ITGuy | 11/24/04

Good point! Judas I. | 11/24/04

Yes, but... Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/25/04

Re: Ooo alterego_z | 11/24/04

I was working from the article: Judas I. | 11/24/04

Linux ease of use and entertainment tic swayback | 11/24/04

My brother just dumped XP for Mandrake voska | 11/24/04

Mandrake is outstanding. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/25/04

MPEG Encodes DebianDog | 11/24/04

Hmmm, found a decent one for about ... Judas I. | 11/24/04

Money vs. Time rpmyers1 | 11/24/04

Yup, and if money is NO object ... Judas I. | 11/24/04

$1,700. DebianDog | 11/24/04

Hey, DebianDog, cool yer jets. Judas I. | 11/24/04

No Evidence Of That nikoli | 11/24/04

That's easy openMind | 11/24/04

You didn't prove anything! nikoli | 11/24/04

Then there's this one: tic swayback | 11/24/04

Supercomputers? You're really reaching now bro nikoli | 11/24/04

You asked for an example of a Mac faster than an AMD tic swayback | 11/24/04

Wow, I Didn't Think Even A Mac User Could Be Such A Dork nikoli | 11/24/04

Ah name calling, how sweet tic swayback | 11/24/04

He's what you call a sore loser. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/25/04

tic... that's what nikoli does best... MacCanuck | 11/25/04

SPEED is one of those tricky questions. Laff | 11/24/04

Can't say I've notice differnce voska | 11/24/04

Well, duh. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/25/04

No, I'm talking the latest and greatest MAC voska | 11/25/04

Do We Have Another BS Alert Here? nikoli | 11/24/04

My Mac is 3+ years old DebianDog | 11/24/04

You proved G5 is inferior to PC in PS and 3D. G5 is good for Acrobat. (NT) Vily Clay | 11/24/04

It's not just the hardware openMind | 11/24/04

Ha, children rkadowns | 11/24/04

How much is your time worth? tic swayback | 11/24/04

To me Tic my free time is worth at least TRIPLE what Laff | 11/24/04

Doesn't Make Any Difference nikoli | 11/24/04

Makes a difference to me tic swayback | 11/24/04

LOL, Then What Are You Doing Chatting Online nikoli | 11/24/04

Yes, most of us work the night before Thanksgiving tic swayback | 11/24/04

40 hours??? Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/25/04

Build v Buy rpmyers1 | 11/24/04

I like doing that voska | 11/24/04

I agree. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/25/04

Hey, nikoli. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/25/04

I know people that do that voska | 11/25/04

I Build PCs Much Better Than Shoes nikoli | 11/25/04

Mac may be a good machine if ... Vily Clay | 11/24/04

Troll Oscar_Goldman | 11/24/04

Oscar_Goldman, why are you talking to yourself? (NT) Vily Clay | 11/24/04

Macs are a good machine now Ken_z | 11/24/04

the only trouble with mac toxicfreak | 11/25/04

I run Mac OS 9 apps on my OS 10.3 eMac. TWRX | 11/24/04

For the same $ you can have twice productivity with PC vs. Mac Vily Clay | 11/24/04

and twice the headaches DebianDog | 11/24/04

Sure, if your time is worthless tic swayback | 11/24/04

Use your weekend/friends and call it a hobby = No waste of your time. (NT) Vily Clay | 11/24/04

My time is too valuable tic swayback | 11/24/04

If your hobby is wasting of money - it?s your choice. (NT) Vily Clay | 11/24/04

If you have no life, I guess it's your choice tic swayback | 11/24/04

Tic, what is better: ... Vily Clay | 11/24/04

Let me know how that works out for you tic swayback | 11/24/04

Tic, what are the priorities of your family? Senseless fun? (NT) Vily Clay | 11/24/04

My Priorities tic swayback | 11/24/04

Tic's Must Get Paid To Post Here nikoli | 11/24/04

Shouldn't you be running a virus scan? tic swayback | 11/24/04

Thus, Tic, your time is invaluable. (NT) Vily Clay | 11/25/04

Tic since you VALUE your time..don't waiste it on Laff | 11/24/04

Laff, you believe in what you want, but ... Vily Clay | 11/24/04

More productive on my G4/800 iMac ITGuy04 | 11/24/04

Calculation TWRX | 11/24/04

Apple's super bargain j.m.galvin | 11/24/04

Macs are slower than PC's because Macs are ?Mercedes? (?) Vily Clay | 11/24/04

Uh, Vily I'd check your links markdoc.geo | 11/25/04

Do you have problems with math or reading? (NT) Vily Clay | 11/25/04

Silly Vily tic swayback | 11/24/04

Tic, look in the mirror first - it never hurts and it's free. Vily Clay | 11/24/04

Response from the black helicopters tic swayback | 11/24/04

The DVD argument tic swayback | 11/24/04

I understand you, Tic ? you do not want to admit that you lost. Vily Clay | 11/24/04

What did I lose? tic swayback | 11/24/04

No losers, we're all big winners here, especially you, special guy tic swayback | 11/24/04

Oops, multiple posts, please ignore. tic swayback | 11/24/04

Determined little booger ain't he/she?....:) Laff | 11/26/04

Vily Clay doens't know what he's talking about. dmclaughlin | 11/25/04

Oh, Tic ... Vily Clay | 11/25/04

obviously therefore vily clay is ignorant of marketing hipparchus2000 | 11/26/04

hipparchus2000, you have no clue what I am talking about. (NT) Vily Clay | 11/27/04

Vily, none of us have any idea what you're talking about tic swayback | 11/29/04

I tried to warn you...... Laff | 11/29/04

Guys, you are fighting hard against Mac/PC users. (NT) Vily Clay | 11/29/04

Why OS X has not been ported to intel.. voodoofish | 11/24/04

Apple philosophy - the tight integration of hardware and software ... Vily Clay | 11/24/04

Vily Clay strikes again. dmclaughlin | 11/25/04

Dmclaughlin does not know how to think. Help is needed. (NT) Vily Clay | 11/25/04

Running a company hipparchus2000 | 11/26/04

hipparchus2000, try to judge things you can understand. Vily Clay | 11/27/04

How many dump Mac's for PC's on a regular basis? Prognosticator | 11/24/04

You can't leave the cult FilledOut | 11/24/04

HAR! Good one, rhetoricpolice... slingzenarrowzuvowtrayjissforchin | 11/24/04

Me too Prognosticator | 11/24/04

"Think Different", not be different hipparchus2000 | 11/26/04

Then I got the best of both worlds NonZealot | 11/26/04

Clueless users [XP is supposed to be easy to use LOL] hipparchus2000 | 11/26/04

&reason tradesmen have smug smile is unitiated don't know crock they bought hipparchus2000 | 11/26/04

In my experience... gfeier | 11/24/04

I quite few people that did that voska | 11/24/04

On a regular basis? Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/25/04

Used both at one time or another NonZealot | 11/26/04

Maybe but I am NOT the artsy type myself and I love Laff | 11/26/04

Word of Mouth marketing! dave95 | 11/24/04

save on friday the 26th DebianDog | 11/24/04

I'll Tell You Who's In Trouble slingzenarrowzuvowtrayjissforchin | 11/24/04

Slingz Got It Right mondopipes | 11/24/04

Can you be more specific? chiishen | 11/24/04

Somebody's BSin here j.m.galvin | 11/24/04

You can raise question, but don't charge me before you know what happen. chiishen | 11/24/04

Um FYI both the iBook and the eMac are consumer Laff | 11/26/04

Yes, your are right. chiishen | 11/26/04

If You Could Read AND Comprehend nikoli | 11/24/04

Sorry, Chiishen... mondopipes | 11/24/04

Isn't it funny a persons individual experiance becomes Laff | 11/26/04

I thought all I want is an example. chiishen | 11/26/04

Understanding the technology... voodoofish | 11/24/04

I think it's more accurate to say... markdoc.geo | 11/25/04

Amen, great post! (NT) NonZealot | 11/26/04

Pfff. ZDNet and Objective Journalism Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 11/25/04

Stupidity DarthRidiculous | 11/25/04

Elitism... Never Got Anyone Anywhere nikoli | 11/26/04

Thanks for proving my point NonZealot | 11/26/04

Despite what SOME people would like it is happening. Laff | 11/26/04

Ease Of Use Argument Is OVER nikoli | 11/26/04

Well I for one here at work often find that for some Laff | 11/26/04

Older Windows were not as "user friendly" NonZealot | 11/26/04

heh heh heh....Well welcome to the ease of use world Laff | 11/26/04

I'm going to play just a bit of devil's advocate NonZealot | 11/26/04

True...No OS can protect the MORON..:) Laff | 11/26/04

boring dinosaur talk. users are not to blame, and ignorant of risk concept hipparchus2000 | 11/26/04

To Hippocrit NonZealot | 11/26/04

except a firewall isn't that strong hipparchus2000 | 11/26/04

Networks... To Each Their Own nikoli | 11/27/04

Well NO I can do it...it's just not as simple in my humble Laff | 11/29/04

devil is in the detail hipparchus2000 | 11/26/04

Oh Please! Get Over It Man nikoli | 11/27/04

Sure is and the winner is Apple Richard Flude | 11/28/04

if macs became the monopoly again JasonL31 | 11/26/04

MS doesn't sell hardware Confused by religion | 11/27/04

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