Is Microsoft using 'Halo 2' to thwart Xbox hackers?

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You guys are scaring me..: Ummm, the wink and "gotcha" follow up should have clued you in to the sarcasm. I was doing it to goad the mouth foamers (it's Friday, I'm a little bored and looking for some petty excitement :-)) Tragically and disappointingly, you guys fell for it hook, line, and sinker.; Posted by: Jeff Spicoli Posted on: 11/12/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Once again, Microsoft taking away rights from the consumer Jeff Spicoli | 11/12/04

MS giving rights to the consumer jeff_c_brown | 11/12/04

There can only be one Jeff on these forums! Jeff Spicoli | 11/12/04

Trouble with analogies GregSalts | 11/12/04

You break it, you bought it.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

maybe phone hardware is a better analogy GregSalts | 11/12/04

If the analogies fit use them Squawkbox | 11/12/04

Point not defeated, modify all you want just don't use XBLive. GregSalts | 11/12/04

OK rapson | 11/12/04

Wrong analogy amicus_curious | 11/12/04

The problem is.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

So what? amicus_curious | 11/12/04

Re: So what? d_jedi | 11/12/04

How do you tell? rpmyers1 | 11/12/04

Your analogy is a strech... DigitalKid | 11/12/04

Your analogies are even larger stretches. Letophoro | 11/12/04

re: eLurker | 11/12/04

True enough. Letophoro | 11/12/04

Look here, "right of first sale"-er.... rock06r | 11/15/04

Re: Look here Letophoro | 11/15/04

not really Jeff Spicoli | 11/12/04

re: DigitalKid | 11/12/04

Let's really be honest eb276 | 11/12/04

jeff eLurker | 11/12/04

Is that not how it is voska | 11/12/04

Car manufacturer too. joethemacfan | 11/12/04

Not... balsover | 11/12/04

But whining is so much fun rapson | 11/12/04

You guys are scaring me.. Jeff Spicoli | 11/12/04

Saw the wink... rapson | 11/12/04

Aha! Jeff Spicoli | 11/12/04

It is not nessesary... hal9000mx | 11/12/04

Ops... it is Necessary.... hal9000mx | 11/12/04

Viva!!!! hal9000mx | 11/12/04

Re: Once again, Microsoft taking away rights from the consumer richdave | 11/12/04

Well, I guess that means I won't be getting an XBox Live subscription.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

Flip side PA-ITGuy | 11/12/04

The right rationale, the wrong methodology? jvahabzadeh | 11/12/04

Would telephone company allow modified hardware on their network? GregSalts | 11/12/04

Didn't AT&T try that? d_jedi | 11/12/04

So how do you keep someone from cheating? GregSalts | 11/12/04

Easy.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

It's Microsofts Service not the XBox mrlinux | 11/12/04

RE: It's Microsoft's Service JakAttak | 11/12/04

It's an X-Box AbsolutelyNot | 11/12/04

I agree, to a point.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

Think we agree on the same points PA-ITGuy | 11/12/04

I disagree 100% No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

Why? d_jedi | 11/12/04

Why. because it is your choice. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

Choice.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

Sorry, but no... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

Not quite.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

Difference here AbsolutelyNot | 11/12/04

Well... hal9000mx | 11/12/04

They have tried doing a checksum, GregSalts | 11/12/04

I'm agree... hal9000mx | 11/12/04

...and eLurker | 11/12/04

The right? Zontor_z | 11/15/04

Good for Microsoft ! We support you ! Prognosticator | 11/12/04

Stupid argument voska | 11/12/04

Besides..... hal9000mx | 11/12/04

Back to reality Prognosticator | 11/12/04

Agree that... hal9000mx | 11/12/04

Re: Back to reality richdave | 11/12/04

I thought rock06r | 11/15/04

What you mean "we," paleface? AbsolutelyNot | 11/12/04

Speak for yourself deadpan227 | 11/15/04

Microsoft=evil cabose | 12/18/05

Cops won't let me drive on road after mods. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

See my reply to DigitalKid above. Letophoro | 11/12/04

Exactly right... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

But... hal9000mx | 11/12/04

The difference is.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

Sorry you are 100% WRONG. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

No, You're WRONG Again...As Usual itanalyst | 11/12/04

Simply stated... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

LOL You're A Pathetic Joke Anyway itanalyst | 11/12/04

Pot calling the kettle black eb276 | 11/12/04

(nt) I agree with you on this one. . d_jedi | 11/12/04

No Axe is right on this one voska | 11/12/04

Correct, but keep your mod Xbox off the XBLive Track. GregSalts | 11/12/04

But.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

How do you know these are the only mods? GregSalts | 11/12/04

What about.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

i am pretty sure eLurker | 11/12/04

According to their TOS.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

re: eLurker | 11/12/04

Depends on the state AbsolutelyNot | 11/12/04

Give it a rest... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/04

Which planet are you referring to? JMusto | 11/15/04

You have an intersting way of taking tangents. B.O.F.H. | 11/12/04

You have an intersting way of riding my coat tails. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/04

Interesting how you could not articulate an intelligent response. B.O.F.H. | 11/13/04

As it is you, it wasn't worth the time. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/04

Your time can't be worth that much. B.O.F.H. | 11/13/04

Tell the truth... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/04

So you say I overestivated you? B.O.F.H. | 11/13/04

Where you trying to say ESTIMATED??? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/04

Were you trying to say Were??? Grook | 11/15/04

? Zontor_z | 11/15/04

Message has been deleted. itanalyst | 11/12/04

(nt) Yet another pointless personal attack.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

Because it is not actually your car... Patrick Jones | 11/12/04

Uh, yeah if you say so... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

Interesting Assertions. JMusto | 11/15/04

Last I heard, Microsoft isn't a law enforcement agency CobraA1 | 11/12/04

Neither is the race track, but you must follow their rules. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

Your analogy DISPROVES your point jvahabzadeh | 11/13/04

Nope, not even close. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/04

You are stretching the racing and mod analogies! B.O.F.H. | 11/13/04

And your ignorance of track rules is showing. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/04

Try again oh clueless one! B.O.F.H. | 11/13/04

Liar, liar, pants on fire. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

Wow, No_Ax admits he knows nothing about racing? B.O.F.H. | 11/14/04

BOFH, I'll TRY to make it real simple for you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

WOW, I finally shut you up. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

sorry no ax - wrong JasonL31 | 11/14/04

if you want a car blue car - buy a new one, don't you dare paint it JasonL31 | 11/14/04

So call the XBL cyber cops instead? rock06r | 11/15/04

Bad Analogy deadpan227 | 11/15/04

No surprise is it, they said no modded boxes FilledOut | 11/12/04

The thing is.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

Because the chips can be turned off prior to the check GregSalts | 11/12/04

I must profess ignorance on this.. d_jedi | 11/12/04

Not per the last paragraph of page 1 GregSalts | 11/12/04

Can't they identify pirated software? deadpan227 | 11/15/04

X-Box is user's property, user can mod all they like... Root User | 11/12/04

EXACTLY!!! I Totally Agree itanalyst | 11/12/04

But isn't it true..... rapson | 11/12/04

this sounds like guilty until proven innocent. deadpan227 | 11/15/04

Agreed FilledOut | 11/12/04

not according to no ax JasonL31 | 11/14/04

I agree with some of your blog, but most is FUD rock06r | 11/15/04

Hey, we can ALL play this game... gordon@... | 11/12/04

And anybody who uses the products FilledOut | 11/12/04

as much as i hate Microsoft... i have no problem with this doh123 | 11/12/04

Just Develop A Mod Chip That's Undetectable.... itanalyst | 11/12/04

Next Xbox probably FilledOut | 11/12/04

I promice... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

Yep FilledOut | 11/12/04

Don't knock short the power of marketing voska | 11/12/04

I promise I wont JasonL31 | 11/14/04

I support Microsoft... Grayson Peddie | 11/12/04

Microsoft is right on this one. George Mitchell | 11/12/04

To be VERY honest..Xbox Live is mainly whiney kids anyway DigitalKid | 11/12/04

Kids not good enought for PC Game areana voska | 11/12/04

Well duh. Games are for kids. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/12/04

we all play games voska | 11/12/04

Smart move stanleymwc@... | 11/12/04

Why not create some where else to play? Kungfoofighterx | 11/13/04

Go ahead, we'll watch. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/04

other 'live'-type services do exist already (nt) eLurker | 11/13/04

once you are on the network ms has access to your xbox JasonL31 | 11/14/04

Microsoft Doesn't Want Modders as Customers peter@... | 11/13/04

You have more choices than buy/not buy... Root User | 11/13/04

And what if anything has this to do with the story? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/04

You're the only one ranting and making personal attacks, No_Ax. Root User | 11/13/04

Really, show me one. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

You asked for it. Root User | 11/14/04

I was hoping you would be foolish enough to try. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

Oh, and also please notice. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

. Commonsenseiseverything | 11/14/04

Root, you have been SPANKED! Commonsenseiseverything | 11/14/04

Oops.. posted reply one message too high (nt) Root User | 11/14/04

Two wrongs don't make a right... Root User | 11/14/04

I knew that was how you would hide. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

Really, do you belive that? So then explain your actions. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

Hey HYPOCRITE, why are you calling names? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

Root User??? Don't like Linux??? Commonsenseiseverything | 11/14/04

I am not as nice as No Ax. You're a liar and idiot. Commonsenseiseverything | 11/14/04

Re: common sense is everything hipparchus2000 | 11/14/04

hipparchus2000, I never said I believe it at all. Commonsenseiseverything | 11/14/04

Common Sense is everything "Root User" hipparchus2000 | 11/14/04

You own actions speak for themselves... Root User | 11/14/04

hipparchus2000, only if you're living under a rock... Commonsenseiseverything | 11/14/04

Root User, Backpeddle king??? Yes I believe so. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

Backpedaling? How in the world.... Root User | 11/14/04

well hipparchus2000 | 11/14/04

hipparchus2000... Root User | 11/14/04

RE:Backpedaling? How in the world - Let me explain it to you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

hipparchus2000 RE: Well... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

noAx for once I agree with you hipparchus2000 | 11/14/04

gee no ax JasonL31 | 11/14/04

What, such a shrp wit. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

I think this is quite relevant, let me elucidate hipparchus2000 | 11/14/04

Well, you gave it a try anyhow. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

Sony sued mod chip makers FilledOut | 11/14/04

I don't particularly like MS but... GeeMaster | 11/14/04

$100 million in 24 hours, not bad! B.O.F.H. | 11/14/04

I thought there are mod chips you can turn off and on hipparchus2000 | 11/14/04

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha JasonL31 | 11/14/04

Um wrong, all the game companies do it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

if the folks go buy ANOTHER Xbox (cost of 2 games) hipparchus2000 | 11/14/04

You are talking about history. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

in that case well done microsoft hipparchus2000 | 11/14/04

Links, not exactlly... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/04

From the Microsoft 1Q2005 10Q B.O.F.H. | 11/14/04

Unfortunately... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/04

No Ax, don't go there rock06r | 11/15/04

Actually, I have been in the manufacturing game 30 plus years. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/04

I work in the industry kelkins@... | 07/05/05

If any of your professional claims were true... B.O.F.H. | 11/15/04

History isn't that old yet-- Microsoft is still losing money per XBox sold Root User | 11/14/04

That hardware's pretty cheap for the consumer voska | 11/15/04

I have to agree. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/04

That's a huge assumption, really... Root User | 11/15/04

Not really. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/04

You're wrong here Root User | 11/15/04

Are you in IT or in manufacturing? rock06r | 11/15/04

As a matter of fact, yes I am. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/04

The XBox is not quite what you claim it to be. B.O.F.H. | 11/15/04

BOFH... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/04

cost amortised hipparchus2000 | 11/17/04

re: if the folks go buy ANOTHER Xbox iet2004 | 12/14/04

Were you trying to say Grook | 11/15/04

Thanks Microsoft For Kicking Cheater Butts lryman2000 | 11/15/04

My Objection kelkins@... | 07/05/05

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