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Sorry, I disagree.
The government exists to serve the public interest, and has very strict requirements regarding transparency. And I believe the government can and should be much more open than it is today. Business interests are always secondary to transparency and accountability in government.

No company is required to do business with the government. If a company feels that protecting its own IP is more valuable than dealing with the openness of the government, then it always has the right not to participate. That's the ultimate right for a business. Conversely, it is the government has the right to solicit bids from business who DO choose to participate. And those who do participate will be awarded with a government contract. But if a business wants to participate, then it has to be able to deliver an open, transparent solution. That's the way things should be. The customer sets the requirements, the producer fulfills the solution or chooses not to participate. That's the way business works.

I don't care if we're talking about a document standard (Massachusetts), devices for law enforcement (this issue), or (electronic) voting systems. The principle is the same in all cases.

Anton, I know you have a big problem anytime a customer requests IP as part of the deal. You feel that there are no, or very few reasons, why a company should ever be required to disclose IP. You feel that IP is synonymous with money. You feel that the principle of IP is "sacred", and anything other than a strong IP regime is tantamount to anti-capitalism.

I, however, fundamentally disagree. I understand that competitive advantage is important, and that there are good reasons for not disclosing secrets. I understand that IP allows a return on investment on research and development, or artistic endeavors. So I don't advocate abolishing IP or saying that everyone has to do the "open source" route.

HOWEVER, I believe that there are many interests that trump IP. One of those interests is a transparent government. If we're talking about devices that can ruin a person's life by manipulating his criminal record, or even say a credit rating, then I think the public should settle for much more transparency than mere "testing" and "approval" by some "government approved" panel and "following procedures".

And there is NO coercion here-- like I said upfront, no one is forced to do business with the government. If disclosing IP is uncomfortable to you or a company, simply don't get involved. Its just like open source-- if you are philosophically opposed to open source, then that's okay--no one is forcing you to use it.

As time moves forward, I believe that we will increasingly see more and more customers stipulate opening up IP as part of their requirements. Particularly from governments, which have transparency and other requirements that trump "lowest cost". And this is a just and proper thing. Its so funny how the IP industry is fond of EULAs and claim there's a "negotiation", but whine loudly as soon as there is actually a customer big and powerful enough to truly negotiate terms, instead of getting shafted by a "take it or leave it" EULA.
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Depending on the test..  Patrick Jones | 11/04/05
How do you think they test the blood?  Sir_Chancealot | 11/04/05
You can't force a blood test  bidemytime | 11/04/05
Yes  Real World | 11/04/05
This varies by state  archerjoe | 11/04/05
Actually, you can (but you shouldn't)  cdgoldin | 11/04/05
Cautionary tale from my state  bidemytime | 11/04/05
Good choice!  cdgoldin | 11/04/05
More like a fairtale  DarthRidiculous | 11/06/05
Before you go and begin believing in your rights  rhavyn | 11/04/05
Blood Test required???  BernieLyons | 11/04/05
Yes you do in NJ  DarthRidiculous | 11/06/05
I don't feel like doing that...that would hurt...  Grayson Peddie | 11/04/05
Technical information on devices used to convict someone must be public!  Root User | 11/04/05
Does the device work as intended?  Anton Philidor | 11/04/05
Sorry, I disagree.  Root User | 11/04/05
When a device must be accurate...  Anton Philidor | 11/04/05
States are interested in convictions, not accuracy  rhavyn | 11/04/05
The Courts worked...  Anton Philidor | 11/04/05
Just don't rely on the courts every time  rhavyn | 11/04/05
Faux naif argument  Anton Philidor | 11/04/05
I disagree  Real World | 11/04/05
What happened to testing?  salmon | 11/04/05
Yes and no.  Dr_Zinj | 11/04/05
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Ivory tower thinking  cdgoldin | 11/04/05
Accurate?  HiRezL | 11/07/05
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Not true, properly designed voting procedures will  Update victim | 11/04/05
But what if ...  cdgoldin | 11/04/05
They can and do force blood test  rhavyn | 11/04/05
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