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Laff, I see what you're saying
But no, I think it is way out of line to suggest that Bush, or anyone in our government, caused or had anything to do with the terror attacks, without one shred of credible evidence. If for no other reason NOT to believe him, Jeff would have you believe Bush masterminded the attacks AND at the same time claims that Bush is an idiot. Can't be both, well....except in Jeff's mind and people like him.

Besides, the ones responsible for the destruction and attacks wouldn't necessarily be the ones who are pushing for the tracking devices. You have a valid point, attacks and other events like them will be used to push the technology, but ALL of the links Jeff posted were simply speculative at best, no hard evidence. And most of the sites that he uses have an obvious bias, and the ones that didn't appear to, were full of conjecture, incorrect facts, and even just plain spurious statements. That's why I don't even read or respond to his posts any more, just read this one by being lazy and clicking "next message", and thought I would play a little while.

Heck, I remember one post where he would not accept the fact that a person, freefalling in air, would hit the ground in less time than it takes a building to collapse to the ground. As far as physics, that one is very simple (I am a bit of a physics and science buff, with access to alot of PhD's to back me up on this one).....and let's just say, for arguements sake, that he was correct about the building. What would that prove? Nothing, so when a person won't accept simple physics as true, even when his version would prove nothing, I tend to doubt their reasoning ability, and their whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

What's really strange is Jeff sounds just like the kind of hippy (was/am one myself) that I would have partied with in my youth......... There is a difference in being "young and dumb", and just plain gullable. Which do you think Jeff is? happy
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Well this will help the legal people  Squawkbox | 01/26/05
You HIT the nail right on the head!! So what WILL happen  Laff | 01/27/05
Absolutely  Spoon Jabber | 01/27/05
Anyone who knows me know I am NOT responsible  Laff | 01/27/05
You must admit...  Spoon Jabber | 01/27/05
IT's the same old story just new tech....  Laff | 01/27/05
guess i should have read down more.  linuxoverwindows | 01/27/05
not the choice...  linuxoverwindows | 01/27/05
Whatever you do...  rapson | 01/27/05
The sad part...  WhoDaMan | 01/27/05
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old cars rule  linuxoverwindows | 01/27/05
Ridiculous  whisperycat | 01/27/05
All this security talk is NOT about terrorists but about  Laff | 01/27/05
You hit it right on the head Jim  Jeff Spicoli | 01/27/05
What "IF" everytime I get a new licenses I cook it in  Laff | 01/27/05
I am sure they are taking all this into account  Jeff Spicoli | 01/27/05
happy  linuxoverwindows | 01/27/05
Hey officer I did NOT do it on purpose...I just like to  Laff | 01/27/05
I just fell into a swimming pool  AmusedAtItAll | 01/27/05
im going to do that to mine tonight.  linuxoverwindows | 01/27/05
I think if you sit it on a small piece of aluminum foil  Laff | 01/27/05
Not in the microwave!  Spoon Jabber | 01/27/05
Well in my experience it does do the lightning show  Laff | 01/27/05
Darn it!  Spoon Jabber | 01/27/05
Oops...see my response below Spoon. A curse on  Laff | 01/27/05
thats why i have my aluminum suit  linuxoverwindows | 01/27/05
Hard to..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/27/05
Yeah, like you have a girlfriend, hahaha! (NT)  Spoon Jabber | 01/27/05
OK Jeff you have to admit that was a good one!  Laff | 01/27/05
Yeah it was funny..if I had the mentality of a 10 year old..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/27/05
Hey, we got a divorce!  Spoon Jabber | 01/27/05
You have to remmeber this was MANY years ago, and  Laff | 01/27/05
Yes, she's still your sister..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/27/05
Spoon.....Daddy?  Laff | 01/27/05
Frightening to think about, eh Jim?..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/27/05
Funny that Jeff said "if"...  Spoon Jabber | 01/27/05
Just NOT upstate New York please...hmmmm wait a  Laff | 01/27/05
Now you two STOP! Believe it or not in many of the  Laff | 01/27/05
Laff, I see what you're saying  Spoon Jabber | 01/27/05
I think the truth lies somewhere between all three of  Laff | 01/27/05
Ummm..Spoon Man..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/27/05
Laff, ANYTHING is possible  Spoon Jabber | 01/27/05
heh heh heh...I guess this response will be full of "IF"  Laff | 01/28/05
You see Spoon I am still not sure how much of this  Laff | 01/28/05
Shouldn't they go a step further..  chiwawa | 01/27/05
Welcome to the land of the "free"!..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/27/05
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