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What the founders said:
"Those willing to give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither security nor liberty." - Benjamin Franklin
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated" - the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within the limits of the law," because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." - Thomas Jefferson
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Based on these statement I don't think the founders would approve of this program.
Posted by: mcmcp@...   Posted on: 05/24/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Hold on there...  LinuxHippie | 05/18/06
Privacy is a myth  Dumber_z | 05/18/06
Sorry...  Henry Miller | 05/18/06
Rights and Freedoms  gdavisjr | 05/18/06
Message has been deleted.  Spicoli the Cannoli | 05/18/06
Jump off a bridge  gdavisjr | 05/18/06
It gets tedious..  Spicoli the Cannoli | 05/18/06
The World Ain't Flat  gdavisjr | 05/18/06
The "Right" to Privacy...  bhartman36 | 05/18/06
Baah  Protector | 05/18/06
"Rights"  bhartman36 | 05/18/06
Ninth Amendment  Henrick Ericcson | 05/18/06
Moronic Liberals  bhartman36 | 05/19/06
Moronic Liberals  bhartman36 | 05/19/06
Get your facts straight you moron  Henrick Ericcson | 05/19/06
And Where Did I Say the NSA Was a State Agency??  bhartman36 | 05/19/06
Riht to Privacy all over the Bill of Rights, XIV  Henrick Ericcson | 05/19/06
The "growing assumption"  Henry Miller | 05/18/06
Message has been deleted.  Spicoli the Cannoli | 05/18/06
O.K. then  jiminica | 05/18/06
Message has been deleted.  Protector | 05/18/06
Dave go put on your tin foil hat and  btljooz | 05/19/06
What bothers me the most is  sykandtyed | 05/17/06
Phone bills not 4th ammendment protected  Robert Crocker | 05/17/06
FISA eliminated that power..  thetruth_z | 05/18/06
Get over it  richhayes | 05/18/06
You haven't studied our system of government.  thetruth_z | 05/18/06
You obviously haven't study it either.  ShadeTree | 05/18/06
Fool.. The Ssurpreme court disagrees..  thetruth_z | 05/18/06
Fool.. The Supreme court disagrees..  thetruth_z | 05/18/06
Your the one that is acting like a fool!  ShadeTree | 05/18/06
Re: You obviously haven't study it either.  none none | 05/18/06
Congress as not declared war on Iraq ...  mwagner@... | 05/18/06
Probably studied it more than you  richhayes | 05/18/06
Funny.  systemcleaner | 05/18/06
FISA was not consulted ...  mwagner@... | 05/18/06
FISA and the constitution  richhayes | 05/20/06
communications act of 1934  Hanover Phist | 05/18/06
Why the prohibition..  Techanalyst | 05/19/06
In other words:  btljooz | 05/19/06
What about Email Spying?  Nigel Johnstone | 05/18/06
email?  st!lborn | 05/18/06
Possibly,  Nigel Johnstone | 05/18/06
Answer  richhayes | 05/18/06
Like someone has said.  systemcleaner | 05/18/06
Reality  Dumber_z | 05/18/06
And yet strangely  Robert Crocker | 05/18/06
Treason.. (Declaring all US citizens to be suspects/criminals..)  thetruth_z | 05/18/06
Privacy = Freedom?  gdavisjr | 05/18/06
"Drive Down the Expressway"  KeithPe | 05/18/06
Privacy  gdavisjr | 05/18/06
Ah, too bad...  TimeBomb | 05/18/06
Phone records: NOT private  gdavisjr | 05/18/06
Not really ...  mwagner@... | 05/18/06
Let me guess...  TimeBomb | 05/18/06
"Private" Phone Records?  gdavisjr | 05/18/06
Your statement doesn't make sense.  matthew.stier@... | 05/18/06
Don't bother.  systemcleaner | 05/18/06
Ignore the people who wasted your time talking about FISA.  systemcleaner | 05/18/06
Not a pen register, not approval  Nigel Johnstone | 05/18/06
All the engineer can testify to is to whether ...  ShadeTree | 05/18/06
He likes to stretch things.  systemcleaner | 05/18/06
But the government has admitted ...  mwagner@... | 05/18/06
Re: All the engineer can testify to is to whether ...  none none | 05/18/06
If it didn't exist...  BitTwiddler | 05/18/06
U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment  Repeal | 05/18/06
Fourth Amendment  richhayes | 05/18/06
Fourth Amendment  jrhcod | 05/18/06
Fourth Amendment  richhayes | 05/18/06
richhayes  btljooz | 05/19/06
Impeachment  richhayes | 05/20/06
no wonder you're not worried!  Spicoli the Cannoli | 05/18/06
Two of us  richhayes | 05/18/06
Jeffey!  Shelendrea | 05/18/06
That was a funny one, eh?  Spicoli the Cannoli | 05/18/06
But will he recognize it?  schernoff | 05/18/06
If all that you say is true ...  mwagner@... | 05/18/06
Why  richhayes | 05/18/06
Liar  rhavyn | 05/19/06
Check your facts  richhayes | 05/20/06
Pretty neat...  Boomslang | 05/18/06
you all ignorant  not of this world | 05/18/06
You might  Shelendrea | 05/18/06
check back onto the boat...  isotla | 05/18/06
I don't trust AT&T anymore  goateepup@... | 05/18/06
Trust AT&T  gdavisjr | 05/18/06
Check ye ol facts homie  wimbo_z | 05/18/06
Broader than your appication  gdavisjr | 05/18/06
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No_Ax  btljooz | 05/19/06
The saddest part  Kimbok@... | 05/18/06
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LESS than 15 the way it's going....  btljooz | 05/19/06
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YES! Resposible use of the Data  s_gamgee | 05/18/06
Wake up, sheep.  systemcleaner | 05/19/06
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War? It's declared  Dumber_z | 05/18/06
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Unbelievable...  Da-Man | 05/18/06
War...  s_gamgee | 05/18/06
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One by one  richhayes | 05/19/06
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Article XIV  Henrick Ericcson | 05/20/06
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Tenth Ammendment  bhartman36 | 05/19/06
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Problem with letter, however  buran | 05/19/06
buran  btljooz | 05/19/06
Telecommunications privacy laws  richhayes | 05/21/06
Why worry, just bend over and kiss your a** good-bye.  jharant@... | 05/19/06
jharant@...  btljooz | 05/19/06
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ASSCROFT RUINED Missouri!!!!  btljooz | 05/19/06
Phone Number records  freaky_z | 05/20/06
Phone Number Records  mcmcp@... | 05/24/06
Stalin's Russia  svasutin | 05/22/06

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