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Would you still be happy if Clinton was spying on Americans?
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin

A personal note to the Founding Fathers: We're sorry. We blew it. You made it possible for us to live free and we blew it. We've given up nearly every personal liberty in the name of a false sense of security sold to the masses by the same type of maniacal government about which you warned us and against which you fought so bravely. We now have to ask permission to take a leak on an airline flight. We never deserved you. -- unknown

We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society. -- Hillary Clinton, 1993

It is thus necessary that the individual should come to realize that his own ego is of no importance in comparison with the existence of his nation; that the position of the individual ego is conditioned solely by the interests of the nation as a whole ... that above all the unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual. .... This state of mind, which subordinates the interests of the ego to the conservation of the community, is really the first premise for every truly human culture .... we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow man. -- Adolph Hitler, 1933

If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees. -- President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993
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What Fools  GatorTechDude | 02/06/06
Fools  b.d.hi | 02/06/06
Would you still be happy if Clinton was spying on Americans?  __howard__ | 02/06/06
If you are going to throw arround quotes ...  ShadeTree | 02/06/06
And yet..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
Still having reading for comprehension problems?  ShadeTree | 02/06/06
Essential Liberties  BruceWheelock@... | 02/06/06
There ya go agin, Shade.  Judas I. | 02/06/06
There you go making it ....  ShadeTree | 02/06/06
Sure, just read a CONSERVATIVE web site about this.  Judas I. | 02/06/06
In the very link you provided ...  ShadeTree | 02/06/06
Read it AGAIN, Shade, and get your facts straight.  Judas I. | 02/07/06
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin  __howard__ | 02/06/06
actually YES  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
They're upset because...  bill@... | 02/06/06
Congratulations ol Gator  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
Subtitle should read...  bill@... | 02/06/06
Did we get any usuful info?  kmguru | 02/06/06
Do the EVER get useful info?  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
Did we get any useful info?  beepster | 02/06/06
After the fact  kmguru | 02/06/06
More Fool You  Brownshoe Sailor | 02/06/06
Your post has struck a new low for ZDNET...  ShadeTree | 02/06/06
A New Low  jkhaberer | 02/06/06
More Fool You  mooredc | 02/06/06
Democrats no better  __howard__ | 02/06/06
What "National Security Agency's domestic surveillance project "  Wendel | 02/06/06
yup  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
If you call someone in the U.S. from within the ...  ShadeTree | 02/06/06
Are You For Real?  jkhaberer | 02/06/06
and of course..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
and of course ...  jkhaberer | 02/06/06
and of course..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
So?  techboy_z | 02/06/06
Re: So?  none none | 02/06/06
Re: Re: So?  jkhaberer | 02/06/06
yup..sure..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
So?  jkhaberer | 02/06/06
Get the REAL SCOOP here!  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
Get the REEL Scoop  jkhaberer | 02/06/06
There is no longer such a thing as the "left"..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
Left?  KTLA | 02/06/06
NSA, Any President, Secrecy  alle2003@... | 02/06/06
NSA ...  jkhaberer | 02/06/06
Spelling Nazi makes an unintended point  Still Lynn | 02/06/06
Spelling corrected.  alle2003@... | 02/06/06
The innocent have nothing to hide  Jack-Booted EULA | 02/06/06
Right  jguyp725@... | 02/06/06
too bad  Shelendrea | 02/06/06
no offense Shells, but you are naive bordering on stupid  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
This coming from the porn king  Shelendrea | 02/06/06
thank you for proving my point  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
jeffy jeffy jeffy  Shelendrea | 02/06/06
I'm sure you are ...  ShadeTree | 02/06/06
once again, naive Shells  Jeff Spicoli | 02/06/06
thank you ...  jkhaberer | 02/06/06
Such is typical socialist behaviour [nt]  Omch'Ar | 02/06/06
It isn't socialist. It's fascist  oo7curtis | 02/06/06
Um, fascism IS socialism...  Omch'Ar | 02/06/06
You are absolutely incorrect  KTLA | 02/06/06
LOL at Encarta articles being called "good"  Omch'Ar | 02/06/06
MS == Socialist??? LOL  KTLA | 02/06/06
Hardly  Omch'Ar | 02/06/06
To: Omch'Ar 9.0  KTLA | 02/07/06
To KTLA..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/07/06
Jeff...  KTLA | 02/07/06
already know what they mean  Jeff Spicoli | 02/07/06
NSA  jaymckay | 02/06/06
NSA surveillance and akamai.com  bosoegaardster@... | 02/06/06
Easy: MS is also a socialist entity [nt]  Omch'Ar | 02/06/06
This coming  Shelendrea | 02/06/06
9/11/2001 wasn't that long ago  ann@... | 02/06/06
They want to nuke San Francisco  rsmith@... | 02/07/06
I don't care.  daisyh | 02/07/06

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