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Tic, you are wrong.
Here is the link to the copyright office. I went to the source instead of EFF or some other opinion piece. Please read. Your link to LA Times is an opinion piece. It states it at the top.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

One of the rights accorded to the owner of copyright is the right to reproduce or to authorize others to reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords. This right is subject to certain limitations found in sections 107 through 118 of the copyright act (title 17, U.S. Code). One of the more important limitations is the doctrine of ?fair use.? Although fair use was not mentioned in the previous copyright law, the doctrine has developed through a substantial number of court decisions over the years. This doctrine has been codified in section 107 of the copyright law.

Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered ?fair,? such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

1.

the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
2.

the nature of the copyrighted work;
3.

amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The distinction between ?fair use? and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission.

The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have regarded as fair use: ?quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the author?s observations; use in a parody of some of the content of the work parodied; summary of an address or article, with brief quotations, in a news report; reproduction by a library of a portion of a work to replace part of a damaged copy; reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work to illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a newsreel or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of an event being reported.?

Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in the work.

The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission.

When it is impracticable to obtain permission, use of copyrighted material should be avoided unless the doctrine of ?fair use? would clearly apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine if a certain use may be considered ?fair? nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney.

FL-102, June 1999

According to your definition, Google is farthest from fair use as you can get. Since it isn't a parody and they didn't get permission and they are for-profit and they are coping a lot of the book, this is clearly not fair use. With Google around, no one will have control over how their product is marketed. Copyright gives you that control. Face it, they are caching the lion's share of the book or the whole book.
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The question is,  rapson | 10/19/05
Answer  Loverock Davidson | 10/19/05
You are both completely wrong  tic swayback | 10/19/05
There is a little difference  John Zern | 10/19/05
Lots of websites charge money for access  tic swayback | 10/20/05
Isn't profiting the point  voska | 10/19/05
Profiting is NOT the Point!  Noel@... | 10/19/05
I don't think so  voska | 10/19/05
I beg to differ  dayjm | 10/19/05
Scanners don't matter  voska | 10/20/05
Your opinion is not very well informed  tic swayback | 10/19/05
No, you don't understand copyright law nor Google Print  johnfwilhite@... | 10/20/05
Here we go  Protector | 10/19/05
If you're saying...  rapson | 10/19/05
Another point  rapson | 10/19/05
Publishers' rights are limited by law  tic swayback | 10/19/05
Yes, but Google is not being fair.  osreinstall | 10/19/05
Incorrect  tic swayback | 10/19/05
I am not that far off  osreinstall | 10/19/05
Running roughshod?  tic swayback | 10/19/05
Doesn't matter even if it helps.  osreinstall | 10/19/05
Where is that right guaranteed?  tic swayback | 10/19/05
You are wrong again.  osreinstall | 10/19/05
Fair Use Is Determained by The Courts  Ed_Meyers | 10/19/05
I'm not wrong  tic swayback | 10/19/05
Re-do on the link  tic swayback | 10/19/05
Tic, you are wrong.  osreinstall | 10/19/05
Osreinstall parody isn't the only fair use  Ed_Meyers | 10/19/05
Did you read that page yourself?  tic swayback | 10/20/05
It will be interesting Ed.  osreinstall | 10/20/05
Tic, this isn't fair use.  osreinstall | 10/20/05
Let a judge decide  voska | 10/20/05
A judge will decide if it's fair use  tic swayback | 10/20/05
The judge will not decide the way you want.  osreinstall | 10/20/05
Now you're a fortune teller?  tic swayback | 10/20/05
Doesn't take a fortune teller to use common sense.  osreinstall | 10/20/05
Copyright is copyright  tic swayback | 10/20/05
The EFF is not the end all be all.  osreinstall | 10/20/05
So you can't disprove the EFF's reasoning?  tic swayback | 10/20/05
Not really  osreinstall | 10/20/05
Really  tic swayback | 10/20/05
Crud, having typing issues, here's the rest.  tic swayback | 10/20/05
Google isn't all that great.  osreinstall | 10/20/05
You have some major misconceptions  tic swayback | 10/21/05
And you have more  osreinstall | 10/21/05
Just trying to clear up a few facts for you...  tic swayback | 10/21/05
Clear yourself up first.  osreinstall | 10/21/05
I'm in the publishing industry, I know of which I speak  tic swayback | 10/21/05
I will look for that pay me to display me idea.  osreinstall | 10/21/05
Sounds like you favor an opt out system  tic swayback | 10/23/05
Kane  tic swayback | 10/23/05
Wow!  tic swayback | 10/23/05
Opt out if other conditions are met  osreinstall | 10/23/05
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If The Copyright Is Expired  Ed_Meyers | 10/19/05
Only if the book is in the public domain...  tic swayback | 10/20/05
Only public domain stuff  voska | 10/20/05
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The really stupid thing about this lawsuit  tic swayback | 10/19/05
As it should be  rapson | 10/19/05
The great irony of this  tic swayback | 10/19/05
So do they sue bookstores next?  voska | 10/19/05
These groups are incredibly stupid  tic swayback | 10/19/05
Google's wrong for this reason...  John Zern | 10/19/05
Google is not wrong, but you are  johnfwilhite@... | 10/20/05
Then that part was not mentioned...  John Zern | 10/20/05
Publishers have no control over this  voska | 10/20/05
Thats true. Anybody could buy the book...  John Zern | 10/20/05
Next: Search CD & DVD  joemartn | 10/19/05
Isn't that already available for cd's?  tic swayback | 10/19/05
Welcome to the big time  John Zern | 10/19/05
Then Why Was BnetD Sued  Ed_Meyers | 10/19/05
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