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Actually, no, you are wrong
even if you unzip the file, you still have to
chmod it to make it executable


No, you are wrong. I tried this out on my SuSE
box and if you tar a script that has the
executable flag set, it still has the executable
flag set when you untar it. I was able to
execute an attached (and tarred) shell script on
Linux in one fewer step than I needed in
Windows. Konqueror is so user friendly and
helpful that I didn't need to go to the command
line for anything.

Even if it's a Linux virus, who runs Linux as
root? The virus will be contained to whatever
the non-root user can do.


It took me 30 seconds to set myself up as a
regular user (non administrator) in XP so
really, it isn't a question of technical ability
in XP, it is a matter of poor defaults.
Regardless, you trivialize the damage that can
be done in the user space. Your machine can
easily be turned into a bot and all of your
personal data can be harvested and deleted. For
a home user, knowing that your whole
machine hasn't been destroyed won't make you
feel any better after losing all of your
personal data.
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Thank Goodness For Thunderbird And Linux  itanalyst | 04/19/05
Linux is just not used enough  rkarlberg | 04/19/05
Linux won't execute it  davidr69 | 04/19/05
Yea, what he said.. (NT)  Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/19/05
Actually, no, you are wrong  NonZealot | 04/19/05
User space damage?  sbarringer@... | 04/20/05
Respectfully, you should do some research on Linux, first.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/19/05
Executable ... not necessarily  davidr69 | 04/19/05
Common Sense!  rocky1 | 04/19/05
not quite so fast there, rocky  MTMacPhee | 04/19/05
Unfortunately NO I didn't!  rocky1 | 04/19/05
Actually, Rocky, it was 12,000 Windows machines  Hugh Jass | 04/19/05
Thanks Hugh!  rocky1 | 04/19/05
Sorry, but your point is rather...pointless.  toadlife | 04/20/05
El Worngo  Real World | 04/20/05
*Take 2* annnnnnnnnd...  Real World | 04/20/05
Sometimes, I wonder...  marty153 | 04/19/05
Re: Sometimes, I wonder...  richdave | 04/19/05
I've played  rocky1 | 04/20/05
ZDNet at its finest  Scrat | 04/20/05
I love opening unknown zip file attachments though!  Henaway | 04/19/05
Remember, there's always a "patient zero"  Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/19/05
Funny you should mention that!  rocky1 | 04/19/05
Norton and Av stuff....  sbarringer@... | 04/20/05
Your bloated Linux with it's web-serving kernel can't compare...  toadlife | 04/20/05
Not sure which is more annoying  melbs | 04/19/05
Hear, hear!  neniavayu@... | 04/19/05
Not so sure...  TheCrow_z | 04/19/05
What we'd be missing...  Wolfie2K3 | 04/19/05
Incorrect....  cbiltcliffe@... | 04/19/05
Bull ...  PMC-CON | 04/19/05
Winsock. Cheap TCP/IP Stack. Best Browser ...  PMC-CON | 04/19/05
re: not so sure  hobo3121 | 04/20/05
Thank You  rsouza@... | 04/19/05
And, the crowd goes wild!!  rocky1 | 04/19/05
I'm sorry, but I must disagree...  MTMacPhee | 04/19/05
MT are you following me?  rocky1 | 04/19/05
Why write a virus if it won't run?  Traveler545220 | 04/19/05
Have you EVER used a Mac?  PMC-CON | 04/19/05
OS X root is disabled by default  Javabeans | 04/20/05
Really?  rocky1 | 04/19/05
Of COURSE the AV vendors will say that!  kbeartxzd | 04/20/05
Save me the trouble!  rocky1 | 04/20/05
Wonder about a system.....  sbarringer@... | 04/20/05
Sorry All....  GTO_Patrick | 04/19/05
RE: Not sure which is more annoying  richdave | 04/19/05
Amen...  syfr | 04/20/05
Spellcheck  preacherx | 04/19/05
The truth may be simpler....  GetReal-mac.com | 04/19/05
The war...  sbarringer@... | 04/20/05
Sober Worm  Stanbbb@... | 04/19/05
Windows VS Linux  Hexer | 04/19/05
Same Old Story, The Blind shall rule the world?  Mudoch | 04/19/05
But how much time and money...  MTMacPhee | 04/19/05
worms and more worms  jwick | 04/19/05
Been there done that!  rocky1 | 04/19/05
Over confidence  iom88@... | 04/19/05
How about they are ALL great depending on the task?  sjburden | 04/19/05
Heterogeneity of OS's  zal@... | 04/19/05
Homogeneity vs Interoperability  sjburden | 04/19/05
Your mother-in-law....  sbarringer@... | 04/20/05
Unix Type systems different from MS  Traveler545220 | 04/19/05
the root lock has been picked many times before--need is the driver...  sjburden | 04/19/05
But getting root means finding a second bug.  Zogg | 04/20/05
If enough stupid users used Linux...  toadlife | 04/20/05
confused?  toadlife | 04/20/05
Hey, Wise Guy ...  PMC-CON | 04/19/05
too true, but...  sjburden | 04/19/05
XP lock-down?  sbarringer@... | 04/20/05
Yay! Someone Gets IT!  PMC-CON | 04/19/05
Hello? Netscape?  Zogg | 04/20/05
The Internet would have happened....  sbarringer@... | 04/20/05
It wasn`t Microsofts idea for internet.  DeSalvionjr | 04/24/05
whaaaaa?  toadlife | 04/20/05
Virus secrets revealed  matrixdomain | 04/19/05
Really?  rocky1 | 04/19/05
Re: Really?  frrossk | 04/20/05
Re: Re: Really  rocky1 | 04/20/05
Zealots are as zealots do  Real World | 04/20/05
I'm curious Mr. Smartypants  NonZealot | 04/20/05
You obviously don't understand what a Virus is  matrixdomain | 04/20/05
So you consider...  Real World | 04/20/05
Understand what a Viru is?  rocky1 | 04/20/05
Understand what a Virus is?  rocky1 | 04/20/05
civility  lyns1-lyn.sweetapple | 04/20/05
Thanks!  rocky1 | 04/20/05
You obviously don't understand what security is  toadlife | 04/20/05
Technically  voska | 04/20/05
....  toadlife | 04/20/05
Another comeback  Bkiser_z | 04/20/05
soberworm & ISP  earthchildren@... | 04/20/05
successful security  gcbon | 04/20/05
Sober worm makes a comeback. I got it !!!!!  programed@... | 04/21/05

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