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The modern (and not so modern computer) is a tool that becomes whatever the user wants it to be. It is unlike a hammer which has only 1 or 2 very well defined uses. It is unlike a gaming console which, while more complicated, is pretty much a stateless machine. The computer is an extremely complex thing so I agree with the TOO COMPLEX statement.

I think the problem with computers is not that they are badly designed but that the industry sells them like they are toasters when in fact, they are more like cars. Say you are not a mechanic, you know nothing about how cars work, but you want to install an automatic car starter. Do you do it yourself or do you let the tech guys do it for you? Say something breaks. Do you fix it yourself or do you take it in to the garage? No one who isn't mechanically inclined buys a car and expects to maintain it themselves. The auto industry has been very good about maintaining end user expectations. The computer industry, on the other hand, has been terrible. They sell the computer along with the expectation that the user can do anything they want with it and there won't be any problems and if there are, the user can fix it themselves.

Is the technology too complex for the trained individual? No more complex than a car to a trained mechanic. The difference is in end user expectations. The auto industry has done a good job of managing expectation, the computer industry hasn't.
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Let me see if I have this straight  NonZealot | 03/29/05
I completely agree  Real World | 03/29/05
good point  ibabadur1 | 03/29/05
WHEN are y'all gonna STOP BEATING this DEAD HORSE?  kbeartxzd | 03/29/05
I half agree  NonZealot | 03/29/05
So...PC Driver Licenses?  ajole | 03/29/05
If wishing made it so...  Real World | 03/29/05
AHHHH... to Dream the imposable dream  lcates@... | 03/29/05
license for kids...  jdahs@... | 03/29/05
Not at all  NonZealot | 03/29/05
Stupid User Error  peter@... | 03/29/05
Sell him a Mac  ajole | 03/29/05
Charges  lcates@... | 03/29/05
Sell him a Mac  richdave | 03/29/05
A bike?  aforencich | 03/29/05
So ya say you've got an 8 yr old...  Wolfie2K3 | 03/29/05
WHAT?  gary.douglas@... | 03/29/05
I disagree  lcates@... | 03/29/05
Error something with letters...  the wolfman_z | 03/29/05
there is never a need to be infected  kohcherp | 03/29/05
"we don't need a better OS. we need better users"  kbeartxzd | 03/29/05
You got it!  NonZealot | 03/29/05
What about the "Mechanics"  lcates@... | 03/29/05
yes, this is true...  Monkey_MCSE | 03/29/05
how do you propose fixing this?  jdahs@... | 03/29/05
Definition of a Flawed OS..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 03/29/05
RE: how do you propose fixing this?  richdave | 03/29/05
Licenses revisited  ajole | 03/29/05
RE: Licenses revisited  richdave | 03/29/05
Whenever something is made idiot proof...  aforencich | 03/29/05
I believe the quote actually goes something like...  Wolfie2K3 | 03/29/05
Yes, you are correct.. it's all Microsoft's fault.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 03/29/05
Another Exploit of MICROSUCK  itanalyst | 03/29/05
IE Vulnerable 98% Of 2004  itanalyst | 03/29/05
Speaking of 'Dead Horses' look who's back  I_am_hellion_z | 03/29/05
Trigger?  Xunil_Sierutuf | 03/29/05
Maybe Because Information Like This Is ACTUALLY Helpful To People  itanalyst | 03/29/05
Are we predictable?  Martin Marvinski | 03/29/05
RE: Are we predictable?  richdave | 03/29/05
Maybe the FIRST time - now its annoying.  I_am_hellion_z | 03/29/05
This is what Viruses cost Windows users- their life savings  matrixdomain | 03/29/05
ver interesting article there in the link  Monkey_MCSE | 03/29/05
Not an Issue in my Environment - go figure  I_am_hellion_z | 03/29/05
Hmmm....  Wolfie2K3 | 03/29/05
It's the Users you say ?  CyberSniper | 03/29/05
Just a MS Apologist's excuse..!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 03/29/05
Buy A Mac!  Reverend MacFellow | 03/29/05
Too Much $$$ for too little performance...  agohige | 03/30/05
Next time you have them  lengua99 | 03/31/05
How to remove the new virus  phoenix_ann | 08/26/05
Hey, what's that "W32." I always see in front of the trojan?  Xunil_Sierutuf | 03/29/05
Amen!  Reverend MacFellow | 03/29/05
X_S  jguyp725@... | 03/29/05
You forgot one, possibly...  boomslang_z | 03/30/05
Aren't you guys tired yet?  tjleeland | 03/29/05
Maybe its YOU that's wrong  Roger Ramjet | 03/29/05
WRONG?  eheinr007@... | 03/29/05
Haha, nice one!!  NonZealot | 03/29/05
10 year olds giggling  tstowell@... | 03/29/05
Hell  grizz1@... | 03/29/05
... He said....'boob'!  Hugh Jass | 03/29/05
MS users will be mocking you instead.  Squawkbox | 03/29/05
Linux users don't worry about Worms or Viruses  matrixdomain | 03/29/05
Are we predictable?  Martin Marvinski | 03/29/05
Seems like they have an alarm don't they?  Squawkbox | 03/29/05
How much does MS Windows Worms and Viruses Cost?  matrixdomain | 03/29/05
If computers were as lethal a guns  bluumax | 03/29/05
MS Windows security in real life studies without the bribes:  hani_y | 03/29/05
Security in Windows  holijo@... | 03/29/05
MS Windows IE  jameshoy@... | 03/30/05
Quit whining and patch...  boomslang_z | 03/30/05
no! quit whining and switch  kohuratahi | 03/30/05
Where are the needed business tools...  boomslang_z | 03/30/05
Linux has many Applications  matrixdomain | 03/30/05
Thank you...  boomslang_z | 03/31/05
To Prop Up Sales  GaryM_z | 03/30/05
Multi-Platform Viruses  rchasse2002 | 03/30/05
Linux , Unix and Mac OS X are immune to Viruses  matrixdomain | 03/30/05
*sigh* Those doomed to repeat it...  raisch | 03/31/05

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