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He's not going to change his mind. Truth, like fairness, is just another "liberal" value, and this sanctimonious snothead has nothing but contempt for all things liberal.

Be content the knowledge that he will make himself more miserable in the long run than either you or I could even if we wanted to.
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Oops!  ISD_z | 02/24/05
I'm not worried  mad.mutt | 02/24/05
How True  djc1309@... | 02/26/05
Re: Oops!  DrDavis | 02/25/05
bandwagon  Anti_Zealot | 02/25/05
You and others like you...  vferrara | 02/25/05
Not sure where you get your info  voska | 02/25/05
Hear hear  dch48 | 02/25/05
How can  Linux User 147560 | 02/26/05
Because...  Spoon Jabber | 02/27/05
points...  maxo_z | 02/25/05
Different strokes for different folks  FilledOut | 02/25/05
I got your band, right here. Firefox vs. IE  el1jones | 02/25/05
95%/80% discrepancy.  Sotek | 02/25/05
RE: 95%/80% discrepancy  douglen@... | 03/03/05
Of......  todbran@... | 02/25/05
Facts don't matter  neverhome | 02/25/05
NBM bandwagon  Anti_Zealot | 02/25/05
HA HA HA HA...  slingzenarrowzuvowtrayjissforchin | 02/25/05
Forget it  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/25/05
OOPS, IE too  ivanii | 02/25/05
Do research....  hawkeyeaz1 | 02/25/05
Sorry, we were downloading the update ... now what were you saying?  Hugh Jass | 02/25/05
MS - baad  rrfe@... | 02/27/05
I noticed that the "FIX-TIME" was miniscule compared to M$ (NT)  Update victim | 02/28/05
Wassup? I thought Firefox has no security issues?  Prognosticator | 02/25/05
Bummer...  nucrash | 02/25/05
MS abandoned browsers  RoberNet | 03/03/05
Who said that?  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
ActiveX  dloyd | 02/26/05
There is a difference  maddoghall | 02/26/05
Funny you mention this  AmusedAtItAll | 02/26/05
That's your problem  Martin Marvinski | 02/25/05
Firefox is a niche product for people that  jogiba@... | 02/25/05
Who are you talking to?  hawkeyeaz1 | 02/25/05
IE was good in it's day but it's old now  voska | 02/25/05
A real computer Guru are you!  AmusedAtItAll | 02/26/05
you have noticed  turtleboy211 | 02/28/05
No, just a lot less, and they get fixed right away, no coverup  DonnieBoy | 02/25/05
It isn't an issue with Firefox...  Oscar_Goldman | 02/25/05
Well, it still needs to be fixed. I am glad they just shut up and fix it.  DonnieBoy | 02/25/05
RE:  cubmiester | 02/25/05
Only a few.....so far  cicuta | 02/25/05
Excellent Point  TrueSpeak | 02/25/05
I'd say...  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
My point exactly  TrueSpeak | 02/25/05
Starting from Scratch?  mds_z | 02/25/05
I think the post was "FF that started from scratch" (NT)  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
All words in caps would be yelling  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
Uh, what about Mozilla and Netscape....  el1jones | 02/25/05
What exactly is your point?  AmusedAtItAll | 02/26/05
By this logic then -  klmmicro | 02/25/05
Check the numbers  hawkeyeaz1 | 02/25/05
Nice Theory  James Wojciehowski | 02/25/05
Why don't you MSDrones stop beating that horse?  AmusedAtItAll | 02/26/05
You...  todbran@... | 02/25/05
What?  htotten | 02/25/05
Uhm, no no no no no.  hawkeyeaz1 | 02/25/05
Yes. And they are fixed more promptely than IE. No spyware  ivanii | 02/25/05
You thought???  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/25/05
Sheesh.  dalecosp | 02/26/05
Reply to da Dreamer . . .  Trav_z | 03/02/05
The only thing I don't like...  Real World | 02/25/05
It's a small download anyway  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
I agree, there must be a way to easily slipstream  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
Good of 'em  Loverock Davidson | 02/25/05
You........use FF? (NT)  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
Yes  Loverock Davidson | 02/25/05
My apologies...  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
Its all good  Loverock Davidson | 02/25/05
You mean "F"riend? : )  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
gag ... hack ... cough ... sputter  Judas I. | 02/25/05
obutter  Loverock Davidson | 02/25/05
Extra work not always needed  osreinstall | 02/25/05
Loverock  Judas I. | 02/26/05
Don't be taken in, man  AmusedAtItAll | 02/26/05
Easy there fella  Loverock Davidson | 02/27/05
Impossible  ejhonda | 02/25/05
You're not  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
Vulnerability was fixed before Exploited  timoute | 02/25/05
Wrong  ejhonda | 02/25/05
Really?  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
Here U go...  ejhonda | 02/25/05
But..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
I almost got nailed on Mozilla 1.73  osreinstall | 02/25/05
At least it asked you  voska | 02/25/05
RE: I almost got nailed on Mozilla 1.73  AmusedAtItAll | 02/26/05
yeah right  dch48 | 02/25/05
Its OK  AmusedAtItAll | 02/26/05
Window Injection Vulnerability  kingoferth | 02/25/05
Do we KNOW that for certain?  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
Same Here  neverhome | 02/25/05
Not enabled yet  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
Enabled, but FF1.0.1 not on update server yet  ivanii | 02/25/05
why switch  wessonjoe | 02/28/05
Lets see, Microsoft would say this is a problem with domain names.  DonnieBoy | 02/25/05
Of course they do  neverhome | 02/25/05
Why do you say that?  hawkeyeaz1 | 02/25/05
YSR  bumberfsck | 02/25/05
Its been known...  hawkeyeaz1 | 02/25/05
Does that mean..  AmusedAtItAll | 02/26/05
OK now for my weekly Firefox gripes  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
Funny you mention it  IT_User | 02/25/05
One answer to one of your gripes  Loverock Davidson | 02/25/05
Thanks  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
Check Now  itanalyst | 02/25/05
But,...  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
3 things  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
Backlash  rapson | 02/25/05
I'll bite  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
You click "Check Now" and it finds no update  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
Thanks Mike  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
I want that too  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
Auto update is on by default...  widge_z | 02/25/05
Ohhh now I get it  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
Not a prob...  widge_z | 02/25/05
My update button worked  todbran@... | 02/25/05
Only for extensions and themes  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
Yes, I got extension and theme updates too (nt)  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
One thing..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
I'm not seeing that sad  Michael Kelly | 02/25/05
I'm using..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
Da whole thang  neverhome | 02/25/05
I've glanced at the talkbacks and here is what  Laff | 02/25/05
Agreed  cubmiester | 02/25/05
Definitely percent of successes v attempts  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
Awww c'mon Jim you are missing the point here  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
Are you saying  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
Ummmm yep  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
Well....  AmraLeo | 02/25/05
Ohboy a new toy. I love new toys.  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
True, but who determines the "success rate"?  cicuta | 02/25/05
Your conclusion is ridiculous!  ShadeTree | 02/25/05
So what's your excuse for IIS then?  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
It is also from Microsoft ...  ShadeTree | 02/25/05
You just killed your own "argument"  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
Actually if my conclusions are off so are yours  Laff | 02/25/05
I did not state a preference for either ...  ShadeTree | 02/25/05
I have only logic...A browser that was designed with  Laff | 02/25/05
Of course you're right  IT_User | 02/25/05
LOL, that's funny  voska | 02/25/05
Do NOT underestimate the value of CORN NUTS!  Laff | 02/25/05
Very quickly fixed!  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
advanced (in the software update section)  widge_z | 02/25/05
Doesn't work  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
Shooting self in foot?  mikew_z | 02/25/05
while the register shoots itself in the head  IceTheNet@... | 02/25/05
security and browsers  jimmurray1946 | 02/25/05
Firefox fixes  brike@... | 02/25/05
fud  IceTheNet@... | 02/25/05
Neither IE or Firefox-----OPERA!!!  DumbUser | 02/25/05
pssssst...  todbran@... | 02/25/05
Bingo,  FilledOut | 02/25/05
more pssssst!  osreinstall | 02/25/05
even more pssssst  IceTheNet@... | 02/25/05
Neither...  TallMonke | 02/25/05
I may have to reconsider my stance on a  Laff | 02/25/05
Coke Spoon..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
Tried a Coke spoon once...can't say I see the  Laff | 02/25/05
Also don't try...  neverhome | 02/25/05
There is hope in dope  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
Well, I prefer...  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
deliberate word switching  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
Coke spoons  AmraLeo | 02/25/05
Surely it was an accident! (NT)  Spoon Jabber | 02/25/05
The Emperor Wears No Clothes  Jazhawk | 02/25/05
You do realize the IE has had X amount of hacks  Laff | 02/25/05
Proof Firefox is a SECURITY risk.  Jazhawk | 02/25/05
It is true that one time will tell this tale still and  Laff | 02/25/05
I think not  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
There you go using those PESKY FACTS again.  Laff | 02/25/05
Re: You do realize the IE has had X amount of hacks  bumberfsck | 02/25/05
While I will grand you the length a browser has  Laff | 02/25/05
but still you miss the point  IceTheNet@... | 02/25/05
HOW DO I GET THE UPDATE???  neverhome | 02/25/05
http://www.mozilla.org/  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
The whole thing?  neverhome | 02/25/05
Yep as the old Alka Seltzer commercial said  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
or http://www.spreadfirefox.com/  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
just download Firefox 1.0.1  wexwimpy@... | 02/25/05
Um, download it ?  BitTwiddler | 02/28/05
Jeff - Another Video For You  itanalyst | 02/25/05
I can't believe they deleted the other post  Jeff Spicoli | 02/25/05
Dang Jefreeee you are becoming a poster child of deleted posts  Squawkbox | 02/25/05
You own a Pharmacutical? happy  Laff | 02/26/05
Bwahahahahaha!!  Jeff Spicoli | 02/26/05
Nuttin better than a buzz w/ buds and an updated FIREFOX BROWSER  Squawkbox | 02/26/05
Last week they left up a neurotic rant equating Microsoft with nazism  Hugh Jass | 02/25/05
IDN spoofing due to ICANN, not Firefox  ivanii | 02/25/05
Actual Usage vs. Downloads  neverhome | 02/25/05
FF visitors to your website  coffeegurrl | 02/25/05
Reality Please  neverhome | 02/25/05
Stop scaring off...  MepisLINUXuser | 02/25/05
Who goes to your site?  Anton Philidor | 02/25/05
Good Point  neverhome | 02/25/05
Who goes to your site?  Jay Cash | 02/25/05
Don't forget...  BitTwiddler | 02/28/05
actual  wexwimpy@... | 02/25/05
Don't Know  neverhome | 02/25/05
Maybe FF users don't...  MepisLINUXuser | 02/25/05
Agree- some misleading information  patience@... | 03/02/05
Firefox has a security hole?  CodeBubba | 02/25/05
Firefox bulletproof  wexwimpy@... | 02/25/05
The delay in updating shows a major problem for FireFox.  Anton Philidor | 02/25/05
Give'em time  neverhome | 02/25/05
I think if they were really worried  IceTheNet@... | 02/25/05
AOL removed its support from Mozilla.  Anton Philidor | 02/25/05
Thank's for the info  IceTheNet@... | 03/24/05
Can a major browser hope for "charity"?  Linux_Developer | 02/25/05
I appreciate charity...  Anton Philidor | 02/25/05
Nice post, but...  Anti_Zealot | 02/28/05
Momentary diversions.  Anton Philidor | 02/28/05
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read...  BitTwiddler | 02/28/05
Sheltered life.  Anton Philidor | 02/28/05
Another story shows how Mozilla Foundation lives.  Anton Philidor | 02/28/05
Software flaws aren't the main problem for security.  Anton Philidor | 02/25/05
You nailed it  neverhome | 02/25/05
I did, but...  Anton Philidor | 02/25/05
Back to responsibility  neverhome | 02/25/05
RE: Back to responsibility  lvezz@... | 03/02/05
*BAD* analogy!  ken@... | 03/02/05
Yeah, but...  cujo_z | 03/02/05
I hate bad analogies - and yours is one  rocka | 03/02/05
Re:Back to responsibility  Traveler545220 | 03/03/05
Responsibility  dimonic | 03/03/05
Blaming Microsoft  davemulk | 03/14/05
flawed analogy  vladsim | 03/14/05
A differing point  IceTheNet@... | 02/25/05
How often do drive-by installs happen?  Anton Philidor | 02/25/05
EULA  IceTheNet@... | 03/02/05
Half-truths....like yours.  rocka | 03/02/05
RE:EULA  Traveler545220 | 03/03/05
OK FACTS PLEASE  IceTheNet@... | 03/24/05
Firefox Problems?  JohnMinn | 02/25/05
Firefox Problems ?  mike@... | 03/02/05
Actually  M.Fridholm | 03/02/05
How long has it been since microsoft released an update  IceTheNet@... | 02/25/05
Message has been deleted.  neverhome | 02/25/05
Intellegent?  IceTheNet@... | 02/25/05
I'm Arrogant?  neverhome | 02/25/05
Arrogance  bjacob4 | 03/02/05
you know what+  gogodidi | 03/02/05
Mr. Economist  bjacob4 | 03/02/05
Well, well, well...  M.Fridholm | 03/02/05
Canonize??????????  bjacob4 | 03/02/05
YES  IceTheNet@... | 03/24/05
RE: Intellegent?  mike@... | 03/02/05
What was that word?  bjacob4 | 03/02/05
agreed(n/t)  gogodidi | 03/02/05
And you conducted your survey how?  IT_User | 02/25/05
I was with ya until ...  ShadeTree | 02/25/05
NASCAR means...  neverhome | 02/25/05
get a hint...  gogodidi | 03/02/05
You hit it on the head, ABB  bjacob4 | 03/02/05
?  gogodidi | 03/02/05
precisely  gogodidi | 03/02/05
Sorry  zdnet@... | 03/10/05
i/e the great one  tomandval@... | 02/25/05
Sooooo. do I bother or don't I?  mkrupsky@... | 02/25/05
It's worth it  osreinstall | 02/25/05
Good for FF but  IT Scion | 02/25/05
so they abandoned their loyal Mozilla users  CareyTylerSchug | 02/25/05
Hmmm.  M.Fridholm | 03/02/05
The truth is!  ezc | 02/25/05
Partially agreed  Anti_Zealot | 02/28/05
Microsoft's biggest problems  deowll | 02/25/05
I'm a tech dunce....  angela_6uk | 02/26/05
I'd suggest you investigate it yourself...  dalecosp | 02/26/05
Comparison of Firefox to IE  ishi52 | 02/26/05
hmm  IT Scion | 02/26/05
compared to IE no prob  shellief | 02/26/05
If you got rid of IE, you probably...  MepisLINUXuser | 02/27/05
Any browser can be toppled.  donald17 | 02/27/05
oh really?  macbill | 03/02/05
Nothing's secure?  springerj | 03/02/05
Found a work around  osreinstall | 02/27/05
Moot point for FireFox  zdnet@... | 03/10/05
No...  BitTwiddler | 02/28/05
Is any Software secure ?  mike@... | 03/02/05
Bad analogy  Marc Myers | 03/02/05
Security  CAWII | 03/02/05
Let's spank the lowlifes who prey on honest people!  ifrancis@... | 03/02/05
RE:Let's spank the lowlifes who prey on honest people!  zdnet@... | 03/10/05
BULLFEATHERS!  macbill | 03/02/05
Re: Blaming MS.........  guitar_199 | 03/02/05
not smart  gogodidi | 03/02/05
spoofing-holes-security IE/Firefox???  elliottxp | 03/02/05
Security is a Job Never Done  Bassam Ahmad Saleh | 03/02/05
Who cares who is responsible?  Ngallendou | 03/02/05
Will Programs Ever be Secure?  michael.wolfstone@... | 03/02/05
One word for you all...  rocka | 03/02/05
Security & Human Beings  bjacob4 | 03/02/05
ofcourse  gogodidi | 03/02/05
Software  jekoski@... | 03/02/05
Security Concept......  sbodymender@... | 03/02/05
firefox Security  ngscott | 03/02/05
FF vs IE & Guns  Dr_Zinj | 03/03/05
MS abandon browsers  RoberNet | 03/03/05
MS Security  Rjohnsons | 03/04/05
Microsoft  ddutton11@... | 03/04/05
it's the hacker's fault!!!  heavyhauler | 03/04/05
security  wscott21 | 03/05/05
Comparison of Firefox to IE  wscott21 | 03/05/05
YES,  zdnet@... | 03/11/05
HACKERS SHOULD BE HUNG  RetiredCapt_ | 03/06/05
Shame on the Press & Analysts  toddrose@... | 03/07/05
bad analogy  vladsim | 03/14/05

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