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cant blame the user?
so if i am driving down the road as a hapless windows user and i slam into your car and damage the hell out of it, it isnt my fault, it is the fault of the car manufacturer for not making big air filled rubber bumpers on our cars. cool, i think i like your thinking. im gonna open all my attachments that started coming in recently and blame my boss for not making sure that my internet was safe. kick 455!
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OUCH!  George Mitchell | 02/02/05
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Problem Solved?  DonEChandler | 02/02/05
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We need more posters like you.  Real World | 02/03/05
Exactly  eulagree | 02/23/05
Perhaps it time to kill the messanger.  shorea50 | 02/03/05
Could be a blessing in disguise  Roger Ramjet | 02/02/05
Right on!  George Mitchell | 02/02/05
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our customers dont complain... much.  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
How do you help them  greenjavlin | 03/16/05
would make them realise their Windows machine is spamming people  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Who cares?  George Mitchell | 02/03/05
The problem with that analogy.  Joel R | 02/03/05
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cant blame the user?  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
no, it's the OS writer's fault  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
I disagree  TechType | 02/03/05
Not everyone is  greenjavlin | 03/16/05
that already happens...  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
It is SO EASY  Roger Ramjet | 02/03/05
Technically easy, but potential for problems  bobmcm_z | 03/15/05
Could be a blessing in disguise  cubmiester | 02/03/05
Message to ITANALYST!  ShadeTree | 02/02/05
Dude, get a clue  Oscar_Goldman | 02/02/05
Trojans have afflicted Linux.  ShadeTree | 02/02/05
A couple of things  Roger Ramjet | 02/02/05
worms, trojans  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
Since you didn't read it correctly the first time!  ShadeTree | 02/02/05
difference?  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
hmmmm  JoeMama_z | 02/02/05
Reread the story again  ShadeTree | 02/02/05
compromise  hawkeye_z | 02/02/05
blame  SC-man | 02/02/05
Pathetic analogy.  PA-ITGuy | 02/02/05
Interesting  SC-man | 02/04/05
the police always blame the victim  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
Damn Trojans!  NonZealot | 02/02/05
One Good Thing About Trojans....  itanalyst | 02/02/05
zombie trick- so what  kwazai | 02/02/05
Missed the point  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
authenticated smtp  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
So...?  Jomo_z | 02/03/05
The answer is x509 / mail signing.  kensys | 02/02/05
In a perfect world,  alterego_z | 02/02/05
perfect world  SC-man | 02/02/05
Perfect World  Joel R | 02/03/05
It's A Wonderful World...  SC-man | 02/04/05
You missed the point, or are just being cynical  kensys | 02/02/05
authenticated smtp  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
re: authenticated smtp  kensys | 02/03/05
simpler solution  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Don't buy anything from a spammer  tssywfb | 02/02/05
This would help  radioleft | 02/02/05
Makes no difference....  Jomo_z | 02/03/05
hit the root  Castanet | 02/02/05
Fines  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
that isnt the point...  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
Except its not illegal  shorea50 | 02/03/05
Islamic Justice  Dr_Zinj | 02/02/05
Islamic Justice revisited  raelalt | 02/02/05
Good idea - mutilate the "Normal"  JED! | 02/02/05
Islamic Justice....YES  mailander | 02/10/05
Spam  toddmartin@... | 02/02/05
you're ooouuuuttt.  Bananna | 02/02/05
posters analogy  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
The Way To Stop Spam  rtemlakdds@... | 02/02/05
better idea....  Nullifidian | 02/02/05
Clueless people  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
it dont even matter if you dont...  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
It won't help  wresnick | 02/02/05
Quicker method  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 02/04/05
SPAM  donreis | 02/02/05
It's the ISP's own fault - New "Port 25" Rules  nottheusual1 | 02/02/05
Opt-out  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
has anyone really tried this?  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
Even a one-time Opt-Out?  Joel R | 02/03/05
the standards were made in the infancy  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
This isn't a Knowledge Thing........ geez  nottheusual1 | 02/03/05
Catch-22 situation there.  Joel R | 02/03/05
a solution  gk@... | 02/02/05
Regulating spammers  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
Take away their funding!  dulljr | 02/02/05
ive always said this  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
What would happen if:  trm1945 | 02/02/05
nice.  Bananna | 02/02/05
Spam them back: AUTOANSWER.exe  tom123_z | 02/02/05
So Ignorant....  mcrute | 02/02/05
Spam the spammers  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
Yes, but it will cost them to developp such a filter  tom123_z | 02/02/05
how about...  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
They want couple of Credit card no.s everyday. That's all.  vaaah | 02/02/05
Pay for each mail  tom123_z | 02/02/05
Secure a PC  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
keep the internet free.  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
Paying For It  ks-art@... | 02/02/05
No redeeming value to pay for mail  jswilsonx | 02/02/05
besides  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
some people still buy from spam adverts  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Pay for each email  Twisted Fish | 02/04/05
Let's see how Bayesian filtering and rulesets will handle this  bill@... | 02/02/05
More effective  agottschald | 02/02/05
That's Exactly What I've Done!  bill@... | 02/02/05
Community filtering works better for me  radioleft | 02/02/05
This Is The Premise Behind Razor & DCC  bill@... | 02/03/05
Class Action Sue?  oatmeal | 02/02/05
Spam them back: AUTOANSWER.exe  tom123_z | 02/02/05
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No, no, no!  radioleft | 02/02/05
Well that could work too...  G.A.L. | 02/03/05
who will pay  bonedaddy29 | 02/03/05
I told you so  BaltimoreBarry | 02/02/05
Years?  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
More years  VolcanoDan | 02/02/05
I agree  FlatAffect | 02/02/05
XXX tld  radioleft | 02/02/05
Are Your Reading the Same Article I Am?  bill@... | 02/02/05
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My hosted server uses exim and spamassassin  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Yeah, same here...  bill@... | 02/02/05
Won't work.  Joel R | 02/03/05
Not with today's users...  wordmaster1 | 02/02/05
wrong end  jw122739@... | 02/02/05
wrong end  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
Well, YOU get it...  bill@... | 02/02/05
Message has been deleted.  radioleft | 02/02/05
Fine the spammers and ISPs; make users pay a bond  allen_n | 02/02/05
Doesn't solve the problem  Middle of the Road | 02/02/05
Sorry, you're wrong...  bill@... | 02/02/05
How do ISPs distuinguish by volume?  G.A.L. | 02/03/05
IT slackers  jneedhamp | 02/02/05
Spam  spanky47 | 02/02/05
They are criminals  WDS_z | 02/02/05
Totally defective products  gberke | 02/02/05
Stop Spam NOW. Publicly execute known spammers  adamjr1968 | 02/02/05
I like it  radioleft | 02/02/05
Bring back the public stocks.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
ISPs don't filter .. for (bad) reason  johns_z | 02/02/05
Paying in cycles  Bob43 | 02/02/05
stupid thread  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Are Spammers Idiots or A**holes??  Ludovit | 02/02/05
They're A$$ holes  radioleft | 02/02/05
Yes  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Here's How To Stop It  G T Baker | 02/02/05
Not Bad, but ...  Ludovit | 02/02/05
Another thought  Ludovit | 02/02/05
How's that any different?  bill@... | 02/02/05
Another LAME idea.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
This does work ( try Mailwasher)  G.A.L. | 02/03/05
Sure, it works, but...  bill@... | 02/03/05
The Protocol is the Problem!  kbeartxzd | 02/02/05
Best Solution  mcrute | 02/02/05
Another LAME one  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Spam $ee's  dfsr1 | 02/02/05
old country solution  salvatore_z | 02/02/05
Message has been deleted.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Not a new trick  kokuryu | 02/02/05
Great 1 out of 15 million desinations stopped.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
I agree with dgk TAKE AWAY THEIR FUNDING!!!  dulljr | 02/02/05
Yeah, stop killing the messenger, fine the product.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Works in a country with legal recourse but...  G.A.L. | 02/03/05
Zombie trick  andyjj1 | 02/02/05
And your solution is?????????  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
zombie  redcoat_z | 02/02/05
Yes they are affecting many nntp groups too.  agottschald | 02/02/05
That's not new, where you been?  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Boycott SPAM  Norrfinn | 02/02/05
That won't work  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Fine the one that receives the MONEY  robert@... | 02/02/05
Just what we need, more law breakers.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Automatically block Spam  jswilsonx | 02/02/05
They already do that and clog the internet more  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Each email should be tagged with originating IP.  agent469@... | 02/02/05
No, Just block the spam outgoing.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Each email should be tagged with originating IP  ginseng37 | 02/03/05
No the point is:  agottschald | 02/02/05
have you graduated from grammer school yet?  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
punishment for spammers  dmreed | 02/02/05
Wrong. You can't fight anything from the supply side.  bjbrock | 02/02/05
Some intellegent postings...  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
BLOCKING  earle_z | 02/03/05
Adult Spam  shel10_z | 02/02/05
Thats why individual filtering doesnt help.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
FILTER  earle_z | 02/03/05
The whole Internet is on the brink of failure.  bjbrock | 02/02/05
Message has been deleted.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Ignorance to the real problem: OUR RECKLESSNESS!  swgoldwire | 02/04/05
Ending Spam is Easy.  hyrum@... | 02/02/05
It's that easy?  rrascal | 02/02/05
Yeah, mine says her D|C# is big enough too.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
It always will.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
AMEN !  earle_z | 02/03/05
Zombie SPAM  mrmarvingc | 02/02/05
They dont need dummies, thay already have them  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Isn't it a virus?  COCA-COLA KID | 02/02/05
The problem is  radioleft | 02/02/05
DUH!  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Hunt them down like rabid animals and..........  sleepin'dawg | 02/02/05
Yeah hog our bandwidth with DOS attacks....  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
It is NOT the spammers fault.  generalphysics@... | 02/02/05
NOT the spammers fault ?  earle_z | 02/03/05
Only Solution : Stronger SMTP - POP Server communication!  vaaah | 02/02/05
Nuclear Bombs can kill ants too  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
governments+companies+people+ISPs+technology  JaakT | 02/02/05
Dumb question  FlatAffect | 02/02/05
And once we do that...  radioleft | 02/02/05
You can't, if you are a newbee.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Here's a compromise solution to the zombie problem  radioleft | 02/02/05
Too bad no one requires this.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
We have installed white lists and ... are happy !  WhiteSand | 02/02/05
"Gray Zone"? What's that?  radioleft | 02/02/05
And the rest of the ignorant people?  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Off topic!!  radioleft | 02/02/05
"This" what?  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Linux vs Windows  radioleft | 02/03/05
YES, to all your questions.  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Recent email about spam & spyware  raypoth | 02/03/05
And you don't have a spyware blocker?  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
Of course it will... STUPID!  JohnBeaman | 02/03/05
A General Wake Up Call for Newbies and the Ignorant  swgoldwire | 02/04/05
Pay no attention to the man in the right wing  tekless | 02/03/05
CAN WE STOP SPAM?  USANH | 02/03/05
Spam Overload!  MrSteveO | 02/03/05
Foolish retaliation  sponia | 02/03/05
Easy - just block the entire address block  CobraA1 | 02/03/05
preventing spam  Roynic66212 | 02/03/05
Suggestion for ISP's  WildcatRay | 02/03/05
Responsibility  osreinstall | 02/03/05
How 'bout this...  Queue | 02/03/05
Stopping spammers  starman_gary | 02/03/05
Stop Spam for good  gregry | 02/03/05
Use Better Server Software!  DudeMaster | 02/03/05
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS OURS  earle_z | 02/03/05
Wonderful Suggesstion!!  swgoldwire | 02/04/05
Re: PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS OURS  Uncle Buck | 02/04/05
End spam overnight  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 02/04/05
Recklessness to make fast bucks!!  swgoldwire | 02/04/05
Spam  willsmith@... | 02/04/05
Spammers summed up.  crashoverride | 02/04/05
Solution to viruses and other malware  zimjones | 02/21/05
Push the costs back onto the spammers  scaramouche | 07/12/05
If only it were that simple  corticus | 12/23/05

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