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"When was the last time YOUR company started a new software project from scratch and was finished and released in 30 days?"

Since when is a PATCH a totally new software project? Ya mean these tyros at MS gotta approach every single PATCH from GROUND ZERO? The problem, then, isn't with the zillion or so lines of code in Windows, but with a bloated, bureaucratic office environment in Redmond.

"so would you rather BIT*H about it for 30 days, or get a nice shiny patch every 30 days?"

I have a couple of clients who almost went out of business as a result of one of the last big virus infections. When it's MY and THEIR livlihoods I'll BIT*H all I want, thank you. Especially when I'm not altogether convinced that their problem is NOT sufficient time to get it right in the first place.

"We are NOT talking about OSS here - these are proprietary vendors. They have limited staff on hand"

Uh huh, yep, and you just try to use that excuse on a customer of yours right after you've said "I'm sorry, Fred, but the data is just ... gone." Their staffing is not MY problem! So, your argument is "Ooo, poor Willy Gates, maybe he wouldn't make as many BILLIONS this year if he had to hire a couple more programmers." Doesn't fly with me.
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IMHO...  BitTwiddler | 01/26/05
Absolutely agree  johnnybluenote | 01/26/05
Ok, if a reasonable time is 1 week.  DonnieBoy | 01/26/05
Nope, it was already decided  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
30 days is too much. You don't need 30 days unless you have spagetti code.  DonnieBoy | 01/26/05
No, 7 days is not enough  TechType | 01/26/05
"a deal ... ...between the vendors and the hackers"  el1jones | 01/26/05
The problem with that approach...  Michael Kelly | 01/26/05
That's why I said...  BitTwiddler | 01/27/05
Agree completely  FilledOut | 01/26/05
Key thought  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
A corollary to your key thought  Judas I. | 01/26/05
Yes,l way too many problems with keeping things secret.  DonnieBoy | 01/26/05
30 days - already decided  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
So...  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
It's just identity theft dude..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/05
My point exactly!  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
Businesses ALWAYS couch it in those terms  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/05
Yeah, and...  rapson | 01/26/05
They ain't, and that's why ...  Judas I. | 01/26/05
OMG  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
Whoever made that 30 day pact ...  Judas I. | 01/26/05
It's not a pact...  OldeTimeGeek | 01/26/05
I see you have never tested patches...  Confused by religion | 01/26/05
Yer wrong, Milly, ...  Judas I. | 01/26/05
So it takes you  ksj99 | 01/26/05
Boo, hoo, poor widdle Microsoft!  Judas I. | 01/27/05
I like that one  IT Scion | 01/28/05
30 Days  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
What?  Judas I. | 01/26/05
Whoa there partner  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
Not that I am going to "spit the bit" here, Roger, ...  Judas I. | 01/26/05
OTOH  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
OTotherOH:  Judas I. | 01/27/05
I understand...  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
OLAs  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
30 days??? reasonable???  rchasse2002 | 01/26/05
Not reasonable  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
IMMEDIATE and full disclosure is the best long-term solution  Root User | 01/26/05
One sided  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
One Sided Heck...  rchasse2002 | 01/26/05
There is a difference  rapson | 01/26/05
Well  IT Scion | 01/26/05
LOL  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
Not one-sided at all  Root User | 01/26/05
Evilution  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
Re: Evilution  Root User | 01/27/05
White Hats  JimSatterfieldW | 01/28/05
So you're saying...  rapson | 01/27/05
Re: So you're saying  Root User | 01/27/05
Got it  rapson | 01/28/05
Wow  IT Scion | 01/27/05
Re: Wow  Root User | 01/27/05
k...  IT Scion | 01/28/05
whoa, nellie !  culebra | 01/27/05
p.s.  culebra | 01/27/05
Re: whoa, nellie!  Root User | 01/27/05
I agree  culebra | 01/27/05
"Accountable" is the right word here  Root User | 01/27/05
Truth be known - this is an open society.  BetaMale | 01/26/05
Not so brilliant  IT Scion | 01/26/05
Who is the most irresponsible???  rchasse2002 | 01/26/05
I would say...  rapson | 01/26/05
But  IT Scion | 01/26/05
259.9MB, 1126 files, 260 folders  sam8988378 | 01/26/05
Not quite  rapson | 01/26/05
They still owe it to their customers to be honest  Michael Kelly | 01/26/05
I won't dispute that  rapson | 01/26/05
True, no one forces a criminal act...  Michael Kelly | 01/26/05
OK  rapson | 01/26/05
BS  Omch'Ar | 01/26/05
Not sure  rapson | 01/26/05
To make that point  ksj99 | 01/26/05
RE : 259.9MB, 1126 files, 260 folders  Unemployed IT Guy | 01/28/05
The only thing irresponsible...  Omch'Ar | 01/26/05
Secrecy is never a good thing  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 01/26/05
Point by point  IT Scion | 01/26/05
What do you want  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
I Agree with Aitel  robradina@... | 01/27/05
Almost not worth it but  IT Scion | 01/27/05
Puzzled...  robradina@... | 01/27/05
and what about the negative consequences?  culebra | 01/27/05
Well  IT Scion | 01/28/05
careful with that axe, Eugene  culebra | 01/27/05
Aitel flaw finder  aljulong@... | 01/27/05
time and trouble...  liberalenextrema@... | 01/27/05
Something the "rebels" avoid discussing...  David A. Pimentel | 01/28/05
Flaw finders go their own way  marcvridenour | 01/28/05
Can a question be a non-sequiter?  jpslocum@... | 01/31/05
If they Know about it.Customers Should know about it!  a8a09923@... | 02/18/05

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