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It's not a pact...
...as in an agreement between parties. It was unilaterally created by the vendors as a face-saving measure to make it appear that they were actually actively doing something about fixing bugs rather than just waiting until the next servce pack to roll all fixes into.

There are no penalties for failure to meet their "standard" and it is not legally binding - for all intents and purposes, is pretty much meaningless.

Face it, folks. The *only* way that you are going to hear of vulnerabilities is for a third party to report them. Because of the insanely binding user-licensing agreements that you "agree" to when installing their software, software companies are under no obligation to fix it when it is broken...
Posted by: OldeTimeGeek   Posted on: 01/26/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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IMHO...  BitTwiddler | 01/26/05
Absolutely agree  johnnybluenote | 01/26/05
Ok, if a reasonable time is 1 week.  DonnieBoy | 01/26/05
Nope, it was already decided  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
30 days is too much. You don't need 30 days unless you have spagetti code.  DonnieBoy | 01/26/05
No, 7 days is not enough  TechType | 01/26/05
"a deal ... ...between the vendors and the hackers"  el1jones | 01/26/05
The problem with that approach...  Michael Kelly | 01/26/05
That's why I said...  BitTwiddler | 01/27/05
Agree completely  FilledOut | 01/26/05
Key thought  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
A corollary to your key thought  Judas I. | 01/26/05
Yes,l way too many problems with keeping things secret.  DonnieBoy | 01/26/05
30 days - already decided  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
So...  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
It's just identity theft dude..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/05
My point exactly!  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
Businesses ALWAYS couch it in those terms  Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/05
Yeah, and...  rapson | 01/26/05
They ain't, and that's why ...  Judas I. | 01/26/05
OMG  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
Whoever made that 30 day pact ...  Judas I. | 01/26/05
It's not a pact...  OldeTimeGeek | 01/26/05
I see you have never tested patches...  Confused by religion | 01/26/05
Yer wrong, Milly, ...  Judas I. | 01/26/05
So it takes you  ksj99 | 01/26/05
Boo, hoo, poor widdle Microsoft!  Judas I. | 01/27/05
I like that one  IT Scion | 01/28/05
30 Days  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
What?  Judas I. | 01/26/05
Whoa there partner  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
Not that I am going to "spit the bit" here, Roger, ...  Judas I. | 01/26/05
OTOH  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
OTotherOH:  Judas I. | 01/27/05
I understand...  Mack DaNife | 01/26/05
OLAs  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
30 days??? reasonable???  rchasse2002 | 01/26/05
Not reasonable  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
IMMEDIATE and full disclosure is the best long-term solution  Root User | 01/26/05
One sided  Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05
One Sided Heck...  rchasse2002 | 01/26/05
There is a difference  rapson | 01/26/05
Well  IT Scion | 01/26/05
LOL  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
Not one-sided at all  Root User | 01/26/05
Evilution  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
Re: Evilution  Root User | 01/27/05
White Hats  JimSatterfieldW | 01/28/05
So you're saying...  rapson | 01/27/05
Re: So you're saying  Root User | 01/27/05
Got it  rapson | 01/28/05
Wow  IT Scion | 01/27/05
Re: Wow  Root User | 01/27/05
k...  IT Scion | 01/28/05
whoa, nellie !  culebra | 01/27/05
p.s.  culebra | 01/27/05
Re: whoa, nellie!  Root User | 01/27/05
I agree  culebra | 01/27/05
"Accountable" is the right word here  Root User | 01/27/05
Truth be known - this is an open society.  BetaMale | 01/26/05
Not so brilliant  IT Scion | 01/26/05
Who is the most irresponsible???  rchasse2002 | 01/26/05
I would say...  rapson | 01/26/05
But  IT Scion | 01/26/05
259.9MB, 1126 files, 260 folders  sam8988378 | 01/26/05
Not quite  rapson | 01/26/05
They still owe it to their customers to be honest  Michael Kelly | 01/26/05
I won't dispute that  rapson | 01/26/05
True, no one forces a criminal act...  Michael Kelly | 01/26/05
OK  rapson | 01/26/05
BS  Omch'Ar | 01/26/05
Not sure  rapson | 01/26/05
To make that point  ksj99 | 01/26/05
RE : 259.9MB, 1126 files, 260 folders  Unemployed IT Guy | 01/28/05
The only thing irresponsible...  Omch'Ar | 01/26/05
Secrecy is never a good thing  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 01/26/05
Point by point  IT Scion | 01/26/05
What do you want  Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05
I Agree with Aitel  robradina@... | 01/27/05
Almost not worth it but  IT Scion | 01/27/05
Puzzled...  robradina@... | 01/27/05
and what about the negative consequences?  culebra | 01/27/05
Well  IT Scion | 01/28/05
careful with that axe, Eugene  culebra | 01/27/05
Aitel flaw finder  aljulong@... | 01/27/05
time and trouble...  liberalenextrema@... | 01/27/05
Something the "rebels" avoid discussing...  David A. Pimentel | 01/28/05
Flaw finders go their own way  marcvridenour | 01/28/05
Can a question be a non-sequiter?  jpslocum@... | 01/31/05
If they Know about it.Customers Should know about it!  a8a09923@... | 02/18/05

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