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Yes,l way too many problems with keeping things secret.: The secrecy thing is what got MS in trouble to start with. Keeping vulnerabilities secret will not save them. Part of the problem is that the need to remove a lot of bad code (like ActiveX), but refuse to do that because it would reduce lock-in. Microsoft is yelling at people talking about flaws at the same time they are putting you at risk so that can maintain their monopoly.; Posted by: DonnieBoy Posted on: 01/26/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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IMHO... BitTwiddler | 01/26/05

Absolutely agree johnnybluenote | 01/26/05

Ok, if a reasonable time is 1 week. DonnieBoy | 01/26/05

Nope, it was already decided Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05

30 days is too much. You don't need 30 days unless you have spagetti code. DonnieBoy | 01/26/05

No, 7 days is not enough TechType | 01/26/05

"a deal ... ...between the vendors and the hackers" el1jones | 01/26/05

The problem with that approach... Michael Kelly | 01/26/05

That's why I said... BitTwiddler | 01/27/05

Agree completely FilledOut | 01/26/05

Key thought Mack DaNife | 01/26/05

A corollary to your key thought Judas I. | 01/26/05

Yes,l way too many problems with keeping things secret. DonnieBoy | 01/26/05

30 days - already decided Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05

So... Mack DaNife | 01/26/05

It's just identity theft dude.. Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/05

My point exactly! Mack DaNife | 01/26/05

Businesses ALWAYS couch it in those terms Jeff Spicoli | 01/26/05

Yeah, and... rapson | 01/26/05

They ain't, and that's why ... Judas I. | 01/26/05

OMG Mack DaNife | 01/26/05

Whoever made that 30 day pact ... Judas I. | 01/26/05

It's not a pact... OldeTimeGeek | 01/26/05

I see you have never tested patches... Confused by religion | 01/26/05

Yer wrong, Milly, ... Judas I. | 01/26/05

So it takes you ksj99 | 01/26/05

Boo, hoo, poor widdle Microsoft! Judas I. | 01/27/05

I like that one IT Scion | 01/28/05

30 Days Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05

What? Judas I. | 01/26/05

Whoa there partner Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05

Not that I am going to "spit the bit" here, Roger, ... Judas I. | 01/26/05

OTOH Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05

OTotherOH: Judas I. | 01/27/05

I understand... Mack DaNife | 01/26/05

OLAs Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05

30 days??? reasonable??? rchasse2002 | 01/26/05

Not reasonable Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05

IMMEDIATE and full disclosure is the best long-term solution Root User | 01/26/05

One sided Roger Ramjet | 01/26/05

One Sided Heck... rchasse2002 | 01/26/05

There is a difference rapson | 01/26/05

Well IT Scion | 01/26/05

LOL Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05

Not one-sided at all Root User | 01/26/05

Evilution Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05

Re: Evilution Root User | 01/27/05

White Hats JimSatterfieldW | 01/28/05

So you're saying... rapson | 01/27/05

Re: So you're saying Root User | 01/27/05

Got it rapson | 01/28/05

Wow IT Scion | 01/27/05

Re: Wow Root User | 01/27/05

k... IT Scion | 01/28/05

whoa, nellie ! culebra | 01/27/05

p.s. culebra | 01/27/05

Re: whoa, nellie! Root User | 01/27/05

I agree culebra | 01/27/05

"Accountable" is the right word here Root User | 01/27/05

Truth be known - this is an open society. BetaMale | 01/26/05

Not so brilliant IT Scion | 01/26/05

Who is the most irresponsible??? rchasse2002 | 01/26/05

I would say... rapson | 01/26/05

But IT Scion | 01/26/05

259.9MB, 1126 files, 260 folders sam8988378 | 01/26/05

Not quite rapson | 01/26/05

They still owe it to their customers to be honest Michael Kelly | 01/26/05

I won't dispute that rapson | 01/26/05

True, no one forces a criminal act... Michael Kelly | 01/26/05

OK rapson | 01/26/05

BS Omch'Ar | 01/26/05

Not sure rapson | 01/26/05

To make that point ksj99 | 01/26/05

RE : 259.9MB, 1126 files, 260 folders Unemployed IT Guy | 01/28/05

The only thing irresponsible... Omch'Ar | 01/26/05

Secrecy is never a good thing Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 01/26/05

Point by point IT Scion | 01/26/05

What do you want Roger Ramjet | 01/27/05

I Agree with Aitel robradina@... | 01/27/05

Almost not worth it but IT Scion | 01/27/05

Puzzled... robradina@... | 01/27/05

and what about the negative consequences? culebra | 01/27/05

Well IT Scion | 01/28/05

careful with that axe, Eugene culebra | 01/27/05

Aitel flaw finder aljulong@... | 01/27/05

time and trouble... liberalenextrema@... | 01/27/05

Something the "rebels" avoid discussing... David A. Pimentel | 01/28/05

Flaw finders go their own way marcvridenour | 01/28/05

Can a question be a non-sequiter? jpslocum@... | 01/31/05

If they Know about it.Customers Should know about it! a8a09923@... | 02/18/05

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