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Me? I don't see this mystical ...
... "perceived threat" that you and Dubya keep talking about!

Heck, Sadman Insane couldn't even kick the butt of his neighbor, Iran (and they were using a lot of our OLD stuff), so how is he a threat to the USA?

The problem with your saying that Dubya is "more informed that we" are is that he is obligated, by our laws, to inform us before he sends our children to war. So far, every reason he threw up was bogus, and you don't have a PROBLEM with that?
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Idiots!  htotten | 12/23/04
Judgement...a question of...  Jiim_z | 12/23/04
Difference between poor judgement and intentional...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
I agree  Spoon Jabber | 12/24/04
Guess I'm not a liberal, 'cause I DO believe ...  Judas I. | 12/25/04
I would also agree..but only IF we are certain that  Laff | 12/27/04
Couldn't agree more, Laff.  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Even us Liberals can see that MS is using us as cannon fodder  gardoglee | 01/05/05
Let's turn down the hyper here. War should only be used  Laff | 12/27/04
And yet in the mindset of the attacker...  boomslang_z | 01/08/05
no, they are pretty smart actually  doh123 | 12/26/04
Message has been deleted.  RobertoSalazar | 12/27/04
My PC?  nomorems | 12/28/04
Singalong a Microsoft  whisperycat | 12/23/04
LOL  X Marks The Spot | 12/25/04
Why is it that Microsoft never finds ...  bjbrock | 12/23/04
Why is it that Ballmer...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
Missed the Boat  Harry Bardal | 12/24/04
Does MS care about customers?  Jiim_z | 12/29/04
Correct me if i am wrong (probably I am wrong)  Squawkbox | 12/24/04
Sorry, but I don't "get it"  code_flogger | 01/05/05
What??  douglen@... | 01/06/05
correction  douglen@... | 01/06/05
What isn't understood here is business!!!!!  a.techno.geek | 01/07/05
MSFT Users - Assume the Position  Chad_z | 12/23/04
Ballmer makes threats, China makes action...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
CHINA IS THE ENEMY  RobertoSalazar | 12/27/04
Not even close  rapson | 12/27/04
Terrorists, China, Fundamentalists of every ilk can NOT  Laff | 12/27/04
Yeah, like pretty and beautiful...  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
So true..would make my spelling issues less...:)  Laff | 12/27/04
Must be pretty cramped down there in your bomb shelter, ...  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Not worried about the neighbors  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Gawrsh, Spooner.  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Who said anything about you?  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
The problem with pre-emptive is that hind sight does  Laff | 12/27/04
What was the movie?  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Ah but to use your faith against you in this one my  Laff | 12/27/04
Nice try!  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Me? I don't see this mystical ...  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Every reason?  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
8 out of 10?  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Oh, OhBe how soon you forget  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Here's a few quotes from that speech:  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Well to date I have seen not evidence that Saddam  Laff | 12/28/04
We've already covered this  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Hmmmm..well while I do not know as a fact that  Laff | 12/28/04
Yep, already covered it, Spooner.  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Laff, read the speech  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
OhBe, one problem  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Now when you take into acount that innocent people  Laff | 12/28/04
Of COURSE there is a third "party":  Judas I. | 12/28/04
No approval needed  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Not funny..sad how the sheaple can be manipulated.  Laff | 12/28/04
No approval?  Judas I. | 12/28/04
BTW Butter  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
As do I..I trully enjoy these exchanges. Oh and I knew  Laff | 12/28/04
Yeah, I know yer not rich, Spooner, ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Excuse?  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Spoon you keep using that term liberal...liberal media  Laff | 12/29/04
Sometimes the end justifies the means  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
See below my friend....:)  Laff | 12/29/04
All I've ever wanted was to be free.  Laff | 12/27/04
Interested in stem cells?  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Sorry but is your sources based on science from those  Laff | 12/27/04
Like I said  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
I don't have anything against conservatives...I like  Laff | 12/27/04
Well I also tend to think a "LITTLE research" is not  Laff | 12/27/04
Laff is NOT getting emotional about cells, ...  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Exactly  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Out of order ^  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Re: Spooner and "Out of order ^"  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Objection your honor,  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Objection overruled.  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Clear as I can be  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Man!!! I leave you two alone for a minute and look  Laff | 12/28/04
Oh one more thing my friend Spoon...  Laff | 12/28/04
Doesn't matter  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Doesn't matter? Of course it does:  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Laff: " I leave you two alone for a minute..."  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Re Doesn't Matter...hmmmmm  Laff | 12/28/04
Good point Laff  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Of course Laff would exist, ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
I too would not decide for others..however  Laff | 12/28/04
Not at all  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Now on at least this one point you are mistaken  Laff | 12/28/04
Granted  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Ah, so you don't "concede the power of life and death to" ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
NICE Butter....:)  Laff | 12/28/04
Hey, I have already qualified that one!  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Can I call em or what!?!  Laff | 12/28/04
Ah, so we have some sort of QUALIFYING ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Ah butter I think you will find that the correct interpretation  Laff | 12/28/04
Oh and I should have stipulated that it is claimed  Laff | 12/28/04
Yeah, see, the INTERPRETATION thing is something ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Thanks Laff  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Ah but then you fall into the whole reason in the first  Laff | 12/28/04
You are welcome Spoon..anything to help out a friend.  Laff | 12/28/04
Spooner! What's the name of the FireFox ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
re: Stem Cells  tic swayback | 12/28/04
Grab the popcorn, Laff!  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Re: Firefox extension  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Tic  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Spoon...so you claim that the left uses science to push  Laff | 12/29/04
Yeah, I ate a bad apple once  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Ah this does present a pickle for me....  Laff | 12/29/04
That response was for the above post?  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Spoon--thanks for the scary response  tic swayback | 12/29/04
Well I will admit it is confusing...cause I always thought  Laff | 12/29/04
Laff, BELIEF might clear the confusion  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Playing God  tic swayback | 12/29/04
So God proved Satan wrong by torturing a loyal follower  Laff | 12/29/04
NO I think for me belief is the problem not the solution  Laff | 12/29/04
Okay, I?m done with the popcorn.  Judas I. | 12/29/04
Butterball  tic swayback | 12/29/04
RE: Torturing a loyal follower  Linux_Developer | 12/29/04
3...3...3 answers in one  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Repost "3...3...3 answers in one" ok, I messed up the first one  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Thanks LD  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Spoon: Answer to 1/3  tic swayback | 12/29/04
Spooner: Heine is swell by me!  Judas I. | 12/29/04
Tic  Spoon Jabber | 12/30/04
LD and Spoon....I love yous guys!  Laff | 12/30/04
Well to be fair Spoon your question to both Butter and  Laff | 12/30/04
Re: suffering  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
Spoon:  tic swayback | 12/30/04
LD..seems you don't understand how unimpressed  Laff | 12/30/04
Tic, I couldn't resist  Spoon Jabber | 12/30/04
Go tic...go tic...!  Laff | 12/30/04
To Laff  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
Spoon, you didn't read my whole answer  tic swayback | 12/30/04
Pagan:  tic swayback | 12/30/04
Tic, I did read it all  Spoon Jabber | 12/30/04
To LD.....Thanks for trying.  Laff | 12/30/04
Re: Go tic...go tic...!  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
sigh...well DUH! Of coarse we can not agree...the  Laff | 12/30/04
Man am I a lousy speller or what? Sorry guys...  Laff | 12/30/04
Spoon, you're still in the theoretical  tic swayback | 12/30/04
LD: Same question as was asked to Spoon  tic swayback | 12/30/04
Now Tic you see my quandry.  Laff | 12/30/04
Answer to tic's question  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
Yay! We got one down....:) Thanks LD...  Laff | 12/30/04
Laff and LD:  tic swayback | 12/30/04
Tic: Perhaps you misunderstood me.  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
To tic and LD and to a lesser degree Spoon  Laff | 12/31/04
Laff, you make me laugh  Spoon Jabber | 12/31/04
Re: God's glorification  Linux_Developer | 12/31/04
LD I'm confused by your answer  tic swayback | 12/31/04
Spoon: reverence for life  tic swayback | 12/31/04
To tic  Linux_Developer | 12/31/04
Tic, I'm ok with that  Spoon Jabber | 12/31/04
LD and Spoon....I try to make you guys Laff so thanks!  Laff | 01/01/05
I'm sorry for your situation  lengua99 | 01/05/05
Microsoft really CARES!  slingzenarrowzuvowtrayjissforchin | 12/23/04
LOL  kakijankhan@... | 12/23/04
I agree.  Grayson Peddie | 12/24/04
yeah yeah  JasonL31 | 12/26/04
Microsoft took short-cuts ...  George Jay | 12/27/04
Not I ...use a Mac myself....:)  Laff | 12/28/04
Nice!  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Wow...every now and again we can agree...i love you man!  Laff | 12/28/04
Check Your Facts -- Microsloth Just Wants Our Money  BeforeItsTooLate | 01/05/05
Microsoft really cares  sguerin_z | 01/06/05
6 Billion people nearly died laughing  mbrierley | 01/12/05
Completely irresponsible  d_jedi | 12/23/04
Try thinking before posting  gwtpict | 12/24/04
Heck, you can sue almost anybody anytime  FilledOut | 12/24/04
I disagree..  Patrick Jones | 12/24/04
Release knowledge of exploit first  FilledOut | 12/24/04
Why?  Patrick Jones | 12/24/04
Not?  FilledOut | 12/24/04
Nope  rapson | 12/24/04
Or not paying attention to the source or the history...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
Wake your hind end up, get something besides a monitor tan...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
Very true.  Grayson Peddie | 12/24/04
Proximate cause and Intervening cause  Anton Philidor | 12/24/04
Should have said...  Anton Philidor | 12/24/04
Doesn't matter  rapson | 12/24/04
Microsoft is the only one guilty of willful neglect!  bjbrock | 12/24/04
See? (nt)  rapson | 12/24/04
Many pairs of eyes  Anton Philidor | 12/24/04
If that's the case...  PA-ITGuy | 12/24/04
How True...  X Marks The Spot | 12/25/04
Don't bother trying to apply laws outside their jurisdiction...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
Sooo... how bout some usefull info  JoeMama_z | 12/24/04
Cumulative Effects  Harry Bardal | 12/24/04
some usefull info  Squawkbox | 12/24/04
there are almost all the same  JasonL31 | 12/26/04
Sorry but XP is the only "real" version  Bob Hughes | 01/05/05
Two more found by same firm...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
Twas The Night Before Patch Day  itanalyst | 12/24/04
Written using...  X Marks The Spot | 12/25/04
WRONG Kemosabe!  itanalyst | 12/27/04
Trustworthy computing rant.....But I thought all the MS talking heads said  Squawkbox | 12/24/04
What to talk about FUNNY! I have an iMac G5 and I  Laff | 12/27/04
Now that IS funny  Squawkbox | 12/27/04
Tsk, tsk Rev  Confused by religion | 12/27/04
heh heh heh...yeah from now on I will visit those  Laff | 12/27/04
Fascinating  Confused by religion | 12/27/04
If it makes you'll feel better  FilledOut | 12/24/04
Did ANY one of you actually care to read the advisory?  toomuchgreeatea@... | 12/25/04
Entering lockdown mode on ISA Servers  Mike Cox | 12/25/04
Eewwh, 5.5, Mikey.  Judas I. | 12/25/04
Well they ARE MS support techs...so it's sort of  Laff | 12/27/04
Hey! You're ON to something, Laff!  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Usually I'm either onto or on something....:)  Laff | 12/27/04
Good thing you did to keep your server safe.  Grayson Peddie | 12/26/04
Entering lockdown mode on ISA Servers  l_tyson@... | 01/05/05
funny, virus are not as big a issue anymore  JasonL31 | 12/26/04
Let me get this straight is this a NEW flaw or siimply  Laff | 12/27/04
Message has been deleted.  Plain Logic | 12/27/04
I suspect...  rapson | 12/28/04
heh heh heh....are you claiming then by default that  Laff | 12/28/04
Of course  rapson | 12/28/04
Well Carl Merry Winter Solstice, and a Happy New Year  Laff | 12/28/04
even ms lets it's employee's have a few days off for the holidays  JasonL31 | 12/28/04
Again, must be nice  rapson | 12/29/04
Isn't MS software self-hacking?  Porkypine | 01/05/05
Hackers, not engineers run Microsoft  daisna | 01/05/05
Off Course MS Should Test  Ragged_Scooper | 01/05/05
That does happen  Capt_Caveman | 01/06/05
OLD SHCOOL  katdelware@... | 01/06/05
MS hacking MS  Donadler | 01/05/05
MS hacking MS  dmhunter@... | 01/05/05
Do the Math  Capt_Caveman | 01/06/05
Tiger Teams  normd | 01/05/05
Should MS Hack Its Own Programs?  carldavidtodd | 01/05/05
Hacking their own stuff  DJ B BOY | 01/05/05
Should Microsoft hack its own software?  colm.mcgettrick | 01/05/05
Hacking their own???  joroy@... | 01/05/05
Exploits released for MS flaws  hoopester | 01/05/05
Microsoft to Hack his own programs,  adelagza | 01/05/05
MS Products  tepaull | 01/06/05
Ouch, my billfold hurts at the very thought!  Wugo | 01/05/05
Yes, they should, but they will never find everything!  tomford@... | 01/05/05
Bummer man  tepaull | 01/06/05
Who really finds the holes in MS' software?  Crabby Guy | 01/05/05
It's not Rocket Science  hankd74 | 01/05/05
MS hacking windows  Blackberry Wine | 01/05/05
Reward Scheme  tepaull | 01/06/05
Inhouse/Outhouse Hacking  mkbaird@... | 01/05/05
Should MS hack MS? Absolutely!  Wolftracks | 01/05/05
Should MS hack MS? Absolutely!--DITTO!!!!  jaws_z | 01/05/05
MS flaws  hburff | 01/05/05
Should MS hack their own software  TerryS12 | 01/05/05
Microsoft cannot hack it's own software.  allen_n | 01/05/05
Should Microsoft Self-hack?  Stebre | 01/05/05
Should Microsoft Hack their own system  tlbaker812@... | 01/05/05
People Ain't Too Bright  RayRay_z | 01/05/05
Mx hacking itself? What's this common thread ......  unclegriff | 01/05/05
Should Microsoft hack its own software  stanm@... | 01/05/05
Microsoft should pay hackers?  Zolar | 01/05/05
Should Microsoft hack it's own software?  breanna6@... | 01/05/05
You mean they don't  rhowerton@... | 01/05/05
It's fun to Monday AM QB!  bobmatch@... | 01/05/05
Microsoft Hacking it's own software  BForbes@... | 01/05/05
Microsoft Hacking it's own software  jhcurry@... | 01/06/05
What MS hacked out of business.  cdtomcat | 01/05/05
RE: Microsoft Exploits...  ajapierce | 01/05/05
Should Microsoft Hack It's own software  joanne6247@... | 01/05/05
Grow up!  ISD_z | 01/05/05
Window hacking  dpandmls@... | 01/05/05
hacking their own systems  sdrose2 | 01/05/05
The internet exists  jhcurry@... | 01/06/05
Should Microsoft Hack it's own software  gwynnes1@... | 01/05/05
Why not. Everyone else does!  robecon@... | 01/05/05
Sure should have - a long time ago  cchamb2 | 01/05/05
Sure should have - a long time ago  cchamb2 | 01/05/05
Microsoft doing it's own hacking  HAYS66@... | 01/05/05
Surely testing is part of development  Desmodeus | 01/05/05
Should Microsoft hack its own software  mdavenp | 01/05/05
Micro$oft should start from scratch  sahern@... | 01/05/05
Complete Rewrite of Code  cashaww | 01/07/05
ms hacking  miker007 | 01/05/05
No suprise for MS (MarketSoftware)  oharajh | 01/05/05
Microsoft Operating Systems  conecuhdan | 01/05/05
Should MS hack their own software ?  jacrav | 01/05/05
Microsoft does and should check  leecottrell | 01/05/05
Percentage of Market  cashaww | 01/07/05
10 years ago...  semiphor | 01/05/05
Microsoft hacking their own  richardf10 | 01/05/05
Software should be engineered  Ronchogrande | 01/05/05
should MS hack themselves YES  jasonhale@... | 01/05/05
SOULD MICROSOFT HACK IT'S OWN SOFTWARE  peterlprice@... | 01/06/05
shoul microsoft hack itself?  jerrelli | 01/06/05
Standard procedure  nsavag1@... | 01/06/05
Great Expectations  tepaull | 01/06/05
How did anyone in MS ever get an IS degree?  Dr_Zinj | 01/06/05
MicroSofts Lack of Product Testing before Release  timothy.blakley@... | 01/06/05
Cracking MS code for Dollars  Xwindowsjunkie | 01/06/05
If MS was in the real business world  weedonald@... | 01/06/05
Question of time  cashaww | 01/07/05
They can't think out of the box  FreddieVee | 01/06/05
A SIMPLE QUESTION  ThinBlueLine1016 | 01/06/05
Well Duh... and a comment about 'support'  wrice | 01/06/05
Why do you still use the software?  cashaww | 01/07/05
Red Team / Blue Team  buiet@... | 01/06/05
hack  jdumas | 01/06/05
Microsoft and everyone else  bobb88 | 01/06/05
Should Microsoft hack its own software  lonnielon | 01/06/05
A better plan  iwfish@... | 01/06/05
This is why their bank accounts get bigger.  lonnielon | 01/06/05
Microsoft hacking its own software  Noryb | 01/06/05
MS hacking MS  hbgrealtor | 01/06/05
Reliability equals Obscurity  rograham1@... | 01/06/05
Should Microsoft Hack It's Own Software?  sfulton | 01/06/05
How interesting  ISD_z | 01/06/05
should ms hack its own software  jhcurry@... | 01/06/05
I makes me wonder?  lonnielon | 01/06/05
Should microsoft hack?  billmoen | 01/06/05
Microsoft trying to hack into its own software...  PhoenixStorm26 | 01/06/05
Should Microsoft hack it own software  darien.carter@... | 01/06/05
Hacker Dependencey  boycebag | 01/06/05
Microsoft Hacks??? Hmmmm... Howabout Microsoft Splits?  Jeff Hayes | 01/06/05
Should Microsoft Hack its own software?  DJnRF | 01/07/05
Should be part of development  BlueKnight | 01/07/05
Microsoft Hacking Its Own Software  tjones@... | 01/07/05
Bill Gates needs a reality check.  Letterman_z | 01/09/05
Should they hack, duh!  robspcfixerupper@... | 01/10/05
Reality Check  iPaladin | 01/10/05

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