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War can be fought in one of two ways, a defensive war waits for what can be thrown at you and is always a losing proposition, an offensive war depends on you taking preemptive action

Excellent point! Only a liberal would disagree.
Posted by: Spoon Jabber   Posted on: 12/24/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Idiots!  htotten | 12/23/04
Judgement...a question of...  Jiim_z | 12/23/04
Difference between poor judgement and intentional...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
I agree  Spoon Jabber | 12/24/04
Guess I'm not a liberal, 'cause I DO believe ...  Judas I. | 12/25/04
I would also agree..but only IF we are certain that  Laff | 12/27/04
Couldn't agree more, Laff.  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Even us Liberals can see that MS is using us as cannon fodder  gardoglee | 01/05/05
Let's turn down the hyper here. War should only be used  Laff | 12/27/04
And yet in the mindset of the attacker...  boomslang_z | 01/08/05
no, they are pretty smart actually  doh123 | 12/26/04
Message has been deleted.  RobertoSalazar | 12/27/04
My PC?  nomorems | 12/28/04
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LOL  X Marks The Spot | 12/25/04
Why is it that Microsoft never finds ...  bjbrock | 12/23/04
Why is it that Ballmer...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
Missed the Boat  Harry Bardal | 12/24/04
Does MS care about customers?  Jiim_z | 12/29/04
Correct me if i am wrong (probably I am wrong)  Squawkbox | 12/24/04
Sorry, but I don't "get it"  code_flogger | 01/05/05
What??  douglen@... | 01/06/05
correction  douglen@... | 01/06/05
What isn't understood here is business!!!!!  a.techno.geek | 01/07/05
MSFT Users - Assume the Position  Chad_z | 12/23/04
Ballmer makes threats, China makes action...  boomslang_z | 12/24/04
CHINA IS THE ENEMY  RobertoSalazar | 12/27/04
Not even close  rapson | 12/27/04
Terrorists, China, Fundamentalists of every ilk can NOT  Laff | 12/27/04
Yeah, like pretty and beautiful...  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
So true..would make my spelling issues less...:)  Laff | 12/27/04
Must be pretty cramped down there in your bomb shelter, ...  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Not worried about the neighbors  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Gawrsh, Spooner.  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Who said anything about you?  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
The problem with pre-emptive is that hind sight does  Laff | 12/27/04
What was the movie?  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Ah but to use your faith against you in this one my  Laff | 12/27/04
Nice try!  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Me? I don't see this mystical ...  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Every reason?  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
8 out of 10?  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Oh, OhBe how soon you forget  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Here's a few quotes from that speech:  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Well to date I have seen not evidence that Saddam  Laff | 12/28/04
We've already covered this  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Hmmmm..well while I do not know as a fact that  Laff | 12/28/04
Yep, already covered it, Spooner.  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Laff, read the speech  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
OhBe, one problem  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Now when you take into acount that innocent people  Laff | 12/28/04
Of COURSE there is a third "party":  Judas I. | 12/28/04
No approval needed  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Not funny..sad how the sheaple can be manipulated.  Laff | 12/28/04
No approval?  Judas I. | 12/28/04
BTW Butter  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
As do I..I trully enjoy these exchanges. Oh and I knew  Laff | 12/28/04
Yeah, I know yer not rich, Spooner, ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Excuse?  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Spoon you keep using that term liberal...liberal media  Laff | 12/29/04
Sometimes the end justifies the means  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
See below my friend....:)  Laff | 12/29/04
All I've ever wanted was to be free.  Laff | 12/27/04
Interested in stem cells?  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Sorry but is your sources based on science from those  Laff | 12/27/04
Like I said  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
I don't have anything against conservatives...I like  Laff | 12/27/04
Well I also tend to think a "LITTLE research" is not  Laff | 12/27/04
Laff is NOT getting emotional about cells, ...  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Exactly  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Out of order ^  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Re: Spooner and "Out of order ^"  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Objection your honor,  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Objection overruled.  Judas I. | 12/27/04
Clear as I can be  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Man!!! I leave you two alone for a minute and look  Laff | 12/28/04
Oh one more thing my friend Spoon...  Laff | 12/28/04
Doesn't matter  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Doesn't matter? Of course it does:  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Laff: " I leave you two alone for a minute..."  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Re Doesn't Matter...hmmmmm  Laff | 12/28/04
Good point Laff  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Of course Laff would exist, ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
I too would not decide for others..however  Laff | 12/28/04
Not at all  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Now on at least this one point you are mistaken  Laff | 12/28/04
Granted  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Ah, so you don't "concede the power of life and death to" ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
NICE Butter....:)  Laff | 12/28/04
Hey, I have already qualified that one!  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Can I call em or what!?!  Laff | 12/28/04
Ah, so we have some sort of QUALIFYING ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Ah butter I think you will find that the correct interpretation  Laff | 12/28/04
Oh and I should have stipulated that it is claimed  Laff | 12/28/04
Yeah, see, the INTERPRETATION thing is something ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Thanks Laff  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Ah but then you fall into the whole reason in the first  Laff | 12/28/04
You are welcome Spoon..anything to help out a friend.  Laff | 12/28/04
Spooner! What's the name of the FireFox ...  Judas I. | 12/28/04
re: Stem Cells  tic swayback | 12/28/04
Grab the popcorn, Laff!  Judas I. | 12/28/04
Re: Firefox extension  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Tic  Spoon Jabber | 12/28/04
Spoon...so you claim that the left uses science to push  Laff | 12/29/04
Yeah, I ate a bad apple once  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Ah this does present a pickle for me....  Laff | 12/29/04
That response was for the above post?  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Spoon--thanks for the scary response  tic swayback | 12/29/04
Well I will admit it is confusing...cause I always thought  Laff | 12/29/04
Laff, BELIEF might clear the confusion  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Playing God  tic swayback | 12/29/04
So God proved Satan wrong by torturing a loyal follower  Laff | 12/29/04
NO I think for me belief is the problem not the solution  Laff | 12/29/04
Okay, I?m done with the popcorn.  Judas I. | 12/29/04
Butterball  tic swayback | 12/29/04
RE: Torturing a loyal follower  Linux_Developer | 12/29/04
3...3...3 answers in one  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Repost "3...3...3 answers in one" ok, I messed up the first one  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Thanks LD  Spoon Jabber | 12/29/04
Spoon: Answer to 1/3  tic swayback | 12/29/04
Spooner: Heine is swell by me!  Judas I. | 12/29/04
Tic  Spoon Jabber | 12/30/04
LD and Spoon....I love yous guys!  Laff | 12/30/04
Well to be fair Spoon your question to both Butter and  Laff | 12/30/04
Re: suffering  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
Spoon:  tic swayback | 12/30/04
LD..seems you don't understand how unimpressed  Laff | 12/30/04
Tic, I couldn't resist  Spoon Jabber | 12/30/04
Go tic...go tic...!  Laff | 12/30/04
To Laff  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
Spoon, you didn't read my whole answer  tic swayback | 12/30/04
Pagan:  tic swayback | 12/30/04
Tic, I did read it all  Spoon Jabber | 12/30/04
To LD.....Thanks for trying.  Laff | 12/30/04
Re: Go tic...go tic...!  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
sigh...well DUH! Of coarse we can not agree...the  Laff | 12/30/04
Man am I a lousy speller or what? Sorry guys...  Laff | 12/30/04
Spoon, you're still in the theoretical  tic swayback | 12/30/04
LD: Same question as was asked to Spoon  tic swayback | 12/30/04
Now Tic you see my quandry.  Laff | 12/30/04
Answer to tic's question  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
Yay! We got one down....:) Thanks LD...  Laff | 12/30/04
Laff and LD:  tic swayback | 12/30/04
Tic: Perhaps you misunderstood me.  Linux_Developer | 12/30/04
To tic and LD and to a lesser degree Spoon  Laff | 12/31/04
Laff, you make me laugh  Spoon Jabber | 12/31/04
Re: God's glorification  Linux_Developer | 12/31/04
LD I'm confused by your answer  tic swayback | 12/31/04
Spoon: reverence for life  tic swayback | 12/31/04
To tic  Linux_Developer | 12/31/04
Tic, I'm ok with that  Spoon Jabber | 12/31/04
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Microsoft took short-cuts ...  George Jay | 12/27/04
Not I ...use a Mac myself....:)  Laff | 12/28/04
Nice!  Spoon Jabber | 12/27/04
Wow...every now and again we can agree...i love you man!  Laff | 12/28/04
Check Your Facts -- Microsloth Just Wants Our Money  BeforeItsTooLate | 01/05/05
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Try thinking before posting  gwtpict | 12/24/04
Heck, you can sue almost anybody anytime  FilledOut | 12/24/04
I disagree..  Patrick Jones | 12/24/04
Release knowledge of exploit first  FilledOut | 12/24/04
Why?  Patrick Jones | 12/24/04
Not?  FilledOut | 12/24/04
Nope  rapson | 12/24/04
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Proximate cause and Intervening cause  Anton Philidor | 12/24/04
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Cumulative Effects  Harry Bardal | 12/24/04
some usefull info  Squawkbox | 12/24/04
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Fascinating  Confused by religion | 12/27/04
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