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"... then don't you agree that it's pretty foolish of Microsoft to keep other people from looking at their code? Could this explain why so many serious bugs and security vulnerabilities keep turning up?"

Security vulnerabilities keep turning up for every vendor, open source or otherwise. That's just a fact of life. So you are saying because an app is open source is does not contain security holes?

"The real problem with Microsoft's methodology is that it insures that the problems won't be found until their products are in use and serious harm is done to their customers."

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but, you are proving my original point over flaming for me. What does MS have to do with this article? Nothing. Yet, some feel the need to bring up MS to make themselves feel better about this news? Just my opinion but, what exact MS methodology are speaking of the ensures flaws wont be found until a product is shipped? I personally don't know MS methodolgies except for their beta programs so I am very curious on that.
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Message has been deleted.  No__ | 12/15/04
Eh?  DpuTiger | 12/15/04
Agreed.  htotten | 12/16/04
Microsoft Code please, sir.  aaron.hodgson@... | 12/16/04
You'll never get it...  htotten | 12/16/04
Not again?  John Le'Brecage | 12/16/04
Imposter  ShadeTree | 12/16/04
re: Imposter  richdave | 12/16/04
BOFH, I thought you learned your lesson.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/16/04
Most exploits are of the users not the system  crocd | 12/16/04
Correct....  htotten | 12/16/04
Grabbing two at random  Nigel Johnstone | 12/16/04
Nigel if that is the case  crocd | 12/16/04
I'd like to see what they would find in windows  Arrg | 12/16/04
That would be a high school assignment. (nt)  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 12/20/04
Not flaws, rather "undocumented features"  Prognosticator | 12/16/04
How Stupid -- Let the flame wars begin ...  coffeenite | 12/16/04
Hmm, are you sure?  Roger Ramjet | 12/16/04
Flawed reasoning  ibabadur1 | 12/16/04
Yes, flawed is right  Roger Ramjet | 12/16/04
Yes but  ibabadur1 | 12/16/04
re: Yes but  richdave | 12/16/04
Obvious stated  ibabadur1 | 12/16/04
how about software auditing seems to work for openbsd  hipparchus2000 | 12/16/04
Therefore  michael-t | 12/19/04
Well nix...you finally made it!  IT Scion | 12/16/04
so you don't think openBSD is any safer that windows then?  hipparchus2000 | 12/16/04
And  michael-t | 12/19/04
Actually  Linux User 147560 | 12/16/04
Actually The flaws are in the apps source code.  The King's Servant | 12/17/04
This is what free software is all about.  George Mitchell | 12/16/04
Darwin would be proud!  Roger Ramjet | 12/16/04
I Think It's A Great News Story - It Is The APPS Not The OS  itanalyst | 12/16/04
Which Unix version?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/16/04
I agree, but....  itanalyst | 12/16/04
Read the reports  bobjones68@... | 12/16/04
Yagotta is right.  The King's Servant | 12/17/04
Not trying to flame ya on this but  IT Scion | 12/16/04
Well if that's how you feel...  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 12/20/04
well...  IT Scion | 12/20/04
I'm nitpicking a little  dschrey | 12/16/04
That's especially true...  ~rpb~ | 12/16/04
Collaboration was encouraged...  The King's Servant | 12/17/04
No_Ax, Check The Math In The Linux PC Story  itanalyst | 12/16/04
Is Unix still safer than ... ? YES!  mwagner@... | 12/16/04
Obscurity is false security  ibabadur1 | 12/16/04
You have got to be kidding.  The King's Servant | 12/17/04
well keep in mind  Been_Done_Before | 12/16/04
This is good news.  John L. Ries | 12/16/04
So they found flaws in old applications.  B.O.F.H. | 12/16/04
Everything has flaws.. it's how much DAMAGE the OS..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 12/16/04
STUDENT PROJECT  welshjames@... | 12/16/04
Well you finally made it(repost)  IT Scion | 12/16/04
Linux apologists never fail to please! (NT)  NonZealot | 12/16/04
That's what makes Linux Great!  daver_z | 12/16/04
It's funny  IT Scion | 12/16/04
No, It's Not That  itanalyst | 12/16/04
Source Code availability  ibabadur1 | 12/16/04
actually it's pretty easy to get windows source code  hipparchus2000 | 12/16/04
Stolen code is 'unavailable' for testing  RAnthony | 12/18/04
Wonderful!!  richdave | 12/16/04
libsafe  zdmpetty | 12/16/04
What me worry?  mlindl | 12/17/04
Misleading, sensationalist, and meaningless headline and article!!  emofine | 12/17/04
A better headline would be....  rock06r | 12/19/04
"Dozens of grains of sand found on beach?"  IT Scion | 12/19/04
And furthermore...  emofine | 12/17/04
Not surprised  CobraA1 | 12/18/04
Good that ppl are looking  FilledOut | 12/18/04
Ok going rate on Windows Flaws is....  PhoenixStorm26 | 12/19/04
What does Windows have to do with this article?  IT Scion | 12/19/04

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