(NT)I'm curious how the BSDs would stack up
toadlife | 12/13/04
|

Better (NT)
Loverock Davidson | 12/13/04
|
 
Entirely possible
alterego_z | 12/14/04
|
  
re: Entirely possible
cbradshaw@... | 12/14/04
|

Sepends on the security you are using.
B.O.F.H. | 12/14/04
|
 
Darwin
rkadowns | 12/14/04
|
  
What makes it a BSD....
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
   
Exactly right.
The King's Servant | 12/15/04
|
   
One of the main differences is...
B.O.F.H. | 12/15/04
|
 
RIP BSDi
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
  
Details, details, details....
B.O.F.H. | 12/14/04
|
 
Way ahead of you here
toadlife | 12/14/04
|

FreeBSD 4.7
FreeBSD | 12/14/04
|
Fact is Linux has fewer flaws found
pa2004 | 12/13/04
|

They analyzed the code
Richard Flude | 12/13/04
|

We forgive you.
Xunil_Sierutuf | 12/13/04
|
 
No not true
ahkjmu@... | 12/13/04
|
  
RE: No not true
ajapierce | 12/13/04
|
   
thousands?
alterego_z | 12/14/04
|
   
HEY!!!
wimbo_z | 12/14/04
|
  
He's talking servers, not browsers, and quit pretending to be No_Ax (nt)
CobraA1 | 12/13/04
|
  
Don't be messing with the Tooth Fairy (very mean and
Laff | 12/14/04
|
  
Message has been deleted.
d_jedi | 12/14/04
|
  
You forgot to mention what IS true....
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
  
I pass
bugmenotznet | 12/14/04
|
  
I tend to agree...
nomorems | 12/14/04
|
 
That's not true
Bllod_Omen | 12/14/04
|
  
Running the 'net
dingle-berry | 12/14/04
|

Oh, really?
Chad_z | 12/14/04
|
 
Thanks
jbencivengo@... | 12/14/04
|
 
Oh Really?
CodeBubba | 12/14/04
|
  
25 years on ?? OS
johnlb2002 | 12/14/04
|

Number of users in not the ONLY factor. Number of
Laff | 12/14/04
|

Do me a favor.
IT Scion | 12/14/04
|
 
I use a Mac (have since they came out) and so I am
Laff | 12/14/04
|
  
Like to have...
wizzzer | 12/14/04
|
   
Usually I purchased USED Mac's. However even then
Laff | 12/14/04
|
    
RE: Mac's held onto their value
JakAttak | 12/14/04
|
     
Most PC buyers do not want to buy a $3000.00 system...
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|
   
Oh and I have to ask...Are you a
Laff | 12/14/04
|
   
I'd like to have...
tic swayback | 12/14/04
|
   
I would like to have
rkadowns | 12/15/04
|
   
Ever heard the expression?
lengua99 | 12/18/04
|
   
like to have?
andypiesse@... | 12/18/04
|
  
Since you are using a MAC
htotten | 12/14/04
|
   
Hey as long at it is as EASY to use as the Mac..what
Laff | 12/14/04
|
    
Can't argure with that
htotten | 12/14/04
|
     
No one can argue with a good Laff....:)
Laff | 12/14/04
|
   
I've heard these rumors too....
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
   
Funny Flame
llanitedave | 12/14/04
|
   
Sorry, wrong company
tic swayback | 12/14/04
|

Use some common sense
voska | 12/14/04
|
 
Sorry, doesn't wash
johnlb2002 | 12/14/04
|
  
You illustrate my point perfectly
voska | 12/14/04
|
 
That works for me....
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
 
the article is talking about...
doh123 | 12/14/04
|

You misunderstand the metrics.
escoles@... | 12/14/04
|
 
You misunderstood
G Fedorchuk | 12/14/04
|

By your reasoning, the Ford Pinto is better than a BMW
johnlb2002 | 12/14/04
|

It has fewer flaws bugs
FilledOut | 12/15/04
|
Microsoft not hiding anything
ahkjmu@... | 12/13/04
|

No Ax "U da Man"
BXLE | 12/14/04
|
 
For the record
PA-ITGuy | 12/14/04
|
  
Well we could see that.
gordon@... | 12/14/04
|
 
re: No Ax "U da Man"
richdave | 12/14/04
|
  
The planet of the sock puppets.
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
 
The point is
lengua99 | 12/18/04
|

re: Microsoft not hiding anything
richdave | 12/14/04
|

How old are you? About 12 or 13
bugmenotznet | 12/14/04
|

Sorry, my shoes are far to big for you to fill.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
htotten | 12/14/04
|
 
Imitatioin is suppose to be the sincerest form of flattery
Laff | 12/14/04
|
  
That is one view I suppose.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
   
re: That is one view I suppose.
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
   
My apolgies...
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
 
Maybe you have another that aspires to be like you here?
B.O.F.H. | 12/14/04
|
  
Hurry!!!
SC-man | 12/16/04
|
  
Not to mention No_Axe_To_Grind and no_ax_to_grind
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|
 
re: Sorry, my shoes are far to big for you to fill.
richdave | 12/17/04
|

Get a real ID
htotten | 12/14/04
|
Simple security measure
Nigel Johnstone | 12/14/04
|
After reading the study I cant see why to keep MS
crocd | 12/14/04
|

re: After reading the study I cant see why to keep MS
richdave | 12/14/04
|

Re: After reading the study I cant see why to keep MS
mc566 | 12/14/04
|
 
MS-sponsered studies? [NT]
Omch'Ar | 12/14/04
|
 
Windows XP is commercial software!
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|

linux/microsoft
blind1 | 12/14/04
|
Not surprised
Kamikaze_Ohka | 12/14/04
|
Linux has security problems too?
Prognosticator | 12/14/04
|

How do you do it?
Chad_z | 12/14/04
|
 
Experience
Prognosticator | 12/14/04
|
  
re: Experience
richdave | 12/14/04
|

I for one NEVER said that Linux was 100% secure..
Laff | 12/14/04
|
 
You just did!
Spoon Jabber | 12/15/04
|
  
Back in the day that tatic was called "Yellow Journalisim"
Laff | 12/15/04
|
   
It IS a shame
Spoon Jabber | 12/15/04
|
    
Perhaps it's an economic statement on the quaility
Laff | 12/15/04
|

This isn't about security
murdock@... | 12/14/04
|

Right.
Yen_z | 12/14/04
|
 
Awesome, hilarious...
php_developer | 12/14/04
|
 
Re: Right
Mack DaNife | 12/14/04
|
 
Re: Right - great Post that goes to 90% of this forum.
computer_man | 12/14/04
|
 
LOL! Humorous and well-written. Except...
Linux_Developer | 12/14/04
|
  
Oops!
Linux_Developer | 12/14/04
|
  
Clarification.
Yen_z | 12/15/04
|
   
OK, now I think I get it.
Linux_Developer | 12/15/04
|
 
10.0! Mike Cox has a tough act to follow.
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|

Straw man alert!
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
Some comments...
PA-ITGuy | 12/14/04
|

Bugs vs. Security Flaws
Kamikaze_Ohka | 12/14/04
|
 
re:Bugs vs. Security Flaws
dvm | 12/14/04
|
  
this is what we like to call FUD as well..
Monkey_MCSE | 12/14/04
|
   
Not True
nikoli | 12/14/04
|
    
RE:
TalkBack: Reply to message
RE: Not True
SC-man | 12/16/04
|
     
WTH is with the subject line?
SC-man | 12/16/04
|
   
this is what we like to call FUD as well..
dvm | 12/15/04
|
 
re: Bugs vs. Security Flaws
richdave | 12/14/04
|
  
re: isn't a securitly flaw a 'bug'?
ladyscifi | 12/16/04
|
 
I've Had Suse 9.1 Crash Plenty
nikoli | 12/14/04
|
  
really?
doh123 | 12/14/04
|

I'd also like to add...
IT Scion | 12/14/04
|
 
Good point
PA-ITGuy | 12/14/04
|
  
The result of 4 years of study & bug fixing
bwerther@... | 12/14/04
|
   
effectiveness of tools...
dingle-berry | 12/14/04
|
   
So if MS allowed
johnlb2002 | 12/14/04
|
   
So the real title to the article should've been-
PA-ITGuy | 12/14/04
|
  
From the editing room floor to you!
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
   
Thanks for filling in the blanks (NT)
PA-ITGuy | 12/14/04
|

re: Some comments...
richdave | 12/17/04
|
If I had a Dell I would not worry,
Squawkbox | 12/14/04
|

I would.
rbochan | 12/14/04
|
 
Look at the link the man provided
bugmenotznet | 12/14/04
|
  
That link...
rbochan | 12/14/04
|

LOL
IT Scion | 12/14/04
|
 
LOL x2
SC-man | 12/16/04
|
Linux less buggy
CodeBubba | 12/14/04
|

You are wrong
badagentx | 12/14/04
|

less functionality?? what you talkin 'bout Willis?
Monkey_MCSE | 12/14/04
|
 
USB Generic Mouse Nonfunctional
gsquared | 12/14/04
|
  
Switched back because of a mouse?
el1jones | 12/14/04
|
   
Well imagine if the guy plugin that mouse is the dumb guy user.
computer_man | 12/14/04
|
  
Plug and Pray
Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/14/04
|
  
Too bad you gave up so quickly....You might of learned something
LazLong | 12/14/04
|
  
finally someone who thinks like me
jpbochi | 12/14/04
|
   
Simple ways
Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/14/04
|
   
You're not alone
PA-ITGuy | 12/14/04
|
   
Right click?
Spoon Jabber | 12/15/04
|
  
Ummmmm....
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|
  
re: USB Generic Mouse Nonfunctional
richdave | 12/17/04
|
 
less functionality?? what you talkin 'bout Willis?
CodeBubba | 12/14/04
|
 
Linux Issues
LGLisle | 12/17/04
|
  
re: Linux Issues
richdave | 12/17/04
|
   
But it is a Linux Issue
LGLisle | 12/18/04
|

Good point CodeBubba
jgoodman_z | 12/14/04
|
 
I worked at Lexmark...
dingle-berry | 12/14/04
|
 
Old laser Lexmark
Still Lynn | 12/14/04
|

Drivers?
johnlb2002 | 12/14/04
|

re:Linux less buggy
richdave | 12/14/04
|
Who Cares
Crockdaddy | 12/14/04
|

Honestly, does it matter?
CodeBubba | 12/14/04
|
linux is under-used and hence under-tested
ADee | 12/14/04
|

"what is it tell you"...
liberalenextrema@... | 12/14/04
|
The need a little more info...
dvm | 12/14/04
|
There'll never be any bug free software
jmhalloy_z | 12/14/04
|
Oh Now Here's A Suprise
mcrute | 12/14/04
|

Re-read the article
PA-ITGuy | 12/14/04
|
 
re:Re-read the article
richdave | 12/14/04
|
  
Windows is a *specific* commercial program.
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
   
Name one commercial program that isn't a "specific" commercial program.
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|
Bias Article from the editor
Curtis@... | 12/14/04
|

All ZDNet articles are biased in Linux favor.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
 
What are you talking about?
S.Howard-Sarin | 12/14/04
|
  
Bitty, seems to me you've just been "spanked" (NT)
none none | 12/14/04
|
   
"Like a 4 year old"
Spoon Jabber | 12/15/04
|

Poster should read carefully:Coverity pays their own bills
John Le'Brecage | 12/14/04
|
Linux vs. Windows
olenavy | 12/14/04
|
LINUX is full of flaws!
johntaylor49 | 12/14/04
|

Linux flaws fixed quickly
CobraA1 | 12/14/04
|

dont see any Linux ones...
kokuryu | 12/14/04
|
 
Top 20 vulnerabilities
bobjones68@... | 12/14/04
|

It is true
michael-t | 12/14/04
|
 
Nothing perfect
grainofsalt | 12/14/04
|
  
I don't know
michael-t | 12/14/04
|
 
different goals = different results
grainofsalt | 01/17/05
|

You need to find a better link
AmusedAtItAll | 12/14/04
|

top Five when search Linux
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|

MICROSOFT is full of fools!
theroyala@... | 08/30/05
|
Only true because most computers have MS
gtemedtk1@... | 12/14/04
|

Almost right.
sgk284 | 12/14/04
|
 
I am a "home user", ok!
gtemedtk1@... | 12/16/04
|
  
I should warn you about those malicious coders...
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|
Some conclusions
jorwell | 12/14/04
|
Pseudo-Science
DonPMitchell@... | 12/14/04
|

their "magic" number comes from their analysis software
hipparchus2000 | 12/14/04
|
 
No, it comes from a long effort to hide the truth.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
  
That's called 'iterative development'...
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
   
No, it's called Bogus (lying) results.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
    
People who DON'T fix their code, perhaps?
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
     
Fair point
bwerther@... | 12/14/04
|
     
Gee, seems MS is fixing their bugs too.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
     
Ax, you made that last retort of yours up.
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
     
Bravo, Sonic!
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
     
Sonic, you misunderstand completely.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
     
No_Ax, let's look at the timeline.
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|
    
Sure I'll Take The Bet
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|
    
Ax, yes, but let me clarify...
bwerther@... | 12/14/04
|
     
But also, from your hypothetical numbers, ...
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
     
Other assumptions, I suppose...
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
     
Not to mention the typical 5,700 to 40,000
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|
   
You are thinking (or talking) like a software developer.
B.O.F.H. | 12/14/04
|
  
Strain too much for you there axey?
AmusedAtItAll | 12/14/04
|

bogus
liberalenextrema@... | 12/14/04
|
 
A Little Wrong Don't You Think?
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|
Illiterate
cafeoui | 12/14/04
|

Illiterate or just human?
DigitalKid | 12/15/04
|
FOOLS AND NAYSAYERS OF MICROSOFT!!! YOU SHALL PAY!!!
bjensen4@... | 12/14/04
|

Whew!
RayRay_z | 12/17/04
|
Useless report.
vdraken | 12/14/04
|
Bull
johns_z | 12/14/04
|

you must be the one person in the world with this experience
hipparchus2000 | 12/14/04
|

Typical Reply Of A Microsoft User
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|
 
So, you're saying?
LGLisle | 12/17/04
|

Never more than a month
Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/14/04
|

hmmm
rbochan | 12/14/04
|

RE: Bull
dingle-berry | 12/14/04
|
 
You Forgot Another Thing
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|
 
What distro you using ?
computer_man | 12/14/04
|

Bull
G Fedorchuk | 12/14/04
|

Bull Linux
Bit Wize | 12/14/04
|

NOBODY???????????? I CAN
joroy@... | 12/15/04
|

Um..actually Linux is quite nice (and I'm an MCSE)
DigitalKid | 12/15/04
|

What silly nonsense
teckk@... | 12/15/04
|
Stating the OBVIOUS
michael-t | 12/14/04
|

not really
hipparchus2000 | 12/14/04
|
 
They
michael-t | 12/14/04
|
Wow, And How Long Did It Take You To Figure This Out?
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|

Windows
Bit Wize | 12/14/04
|
 
For two years???
joroy@... | 12/15/04
|
  
Helllooooo....
PA-ITGuy | 12/15/04
|
   
No way of knowing
rapson | 12/15/04
|
Mac
acumech | 12/14/04
|

Why run Linux?
murdock@... | 12/14/04
|

Yellow Dog
buddhistMonkey | 12/14/04
|

re: Mac
richdave | 12/14/04
|

Sad
ct2193@... | 12/14/04
|
Self promotion for Coverity
bwerther@... | 12/14/04
|

100% Spot On Post.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|

Same result?
Spoon Jabber | 12/15/04
|
Nothing to compare Linux too.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|

Why has this degenerated into Linux v Windows again?
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
 
Linux has fewer flaws? That What???
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
  
Try reading the message you just replied to...!
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
   
So your suggesting they are comparing Linux to say AutoCAD?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
    
I suggest no such thing...
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
    
Good advice, take it yourself??
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
     
Everything looks like a nail to someone who owns only a hammer.
Zogg | 12/14/04
|
     
Don't go away mad...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
    
The article doesn't say what it compares to
bobjones68@... | 12/14/04
|

That's Because Their Database Can't Handle All That Flaw Data From MS
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|
 
itanalyst, a favor please.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
 
Then why?
rapson | 12/14/04
|
  
Unfortunately, it's all he is capable of.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
   
Maybe, JUST Maybe
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|
    
Unlike you and Linux, I DO call MS out when they are wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
     
Please. Just don't bother.
Linux_Developer | 12/14/04
|
    
You know,
rapson | 12/14/04
|
Let's Do Some Math Here
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|

Are you serious?
bwerther@... | 12/14/04
|
 
Dang it, stop using common sense like that.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
 
Well said!!
bobjones68@... | 12/14/04
|
 
Competition
alicia@... | 12/17/04
|

Logic flaws
rapson | 12/14/04
|

From the article
rapson | 12/14/04
|
 
Carl, both numbers are BOGUS.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
  
If XP Only Has A Million Bugs
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|
   
Linux v Windows XP
joroy@... | 12/15/04
|
  
AH, So If The Numbers Were Flipped
itanalyst | 12/14/04
|
   
As usual, you Ass-u-me far to much.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
   
But that's assuming...
rapson | 12/14/04
|
    
'Winning' arguments with made-up numbers
joroy@... | 12/15/04
|

You have only calculated an estimate...
Zogg | 12/14/04
|

Check the real math
al.belcher@... | 12/17/04
|
 
That's why when I services Novell installs...
The King's Servant | 12/17/04
|
We should not be surprised ...
mwagner@... | 12/14/04
|

985 bugs is a "spot check" number.
Zogg | 12/14/04
|

re: We should not be surprised ...
cbradshaw@... | 12/14/04
|
The fact: Windows - Linux
KingOfHeaven | 12/14/04
|

That is incorrect.
sgk284 | 12/14/04
|
 
So cogently put
joroy@... | 12/15/04
|
 
Actually, YOU *MIGHT* be wrong.
vdraken | 12/15/04
|
Settle down geeks.
computer_man | 12/14/04
|
Very interesting.
Linux_Developer | 12/14/04
|

Opposite conclusion
bwerther@... | 12/14/04
|
 
RE: Opposite conclusion
G Fedorchuk | 12/14/04
|

Actually, I see the exact opposite.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/14/04
|
 
Do you know when the study's cut off point is?
Darkintent | 12/14/04
|
  
Please do your home work...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/15/04
|
Flaws -vs- Impact
ct2193@... | 12/14/04
|
Headline says fewer flaws but does that include
mlindl | 12/14/04
|

You are absolutely right.
computer_man | 12/14/04
|
Fewer flaws really ain't the question
Squawkbox | 12/14/04
|
Linux is very secure
hani_y | 12/14/04
|

Who uses Linux?
joroy@... | 12/15/04
|
Linux
gselby4@... | 12/14/04
|
Difference between linux and windows flaws
segurajohn@... | 12/14/04
|
Linux is the Best
artiststarshine | 12/14/04
|
I am a know it all
ahkjmu@... | 12/14/04
|

BOFH, still trying huh?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/15/04
|

You are confusing No_Ax_to_Grind!
B.O.F.H. | 12/15/04
|
Linux -So near yet so far
rajneeshrai | 12/15/04
|
Well Duh!!!
supoman | 12/15/04
|
What's the future truth?
trm1945 | 12/16/04
|
read error
terracell | 12/16/04
|
OS? What about the Apps?
JCzdnet | 12/16/04
|
all things created by humans have flaws
Rich™ | 12/17/04
|
flawless OS?
al.belcher@... | 12/17/04
|

Or the OS from ....
rock06r | 12/17/04
|
Most of you in the flame wars ....
rock06r | 12/17/04
|
Bugs and operating systems
alicia@... | 12/17/04
|

Microsoft--Eye-candy specialists
RayRay_z | 12/17/04
|
Number of bugs not an issue. Time to close them more important
PhilippeV | 12/17/04
|
Not really that great
Stephen_Joslin. | 12/17/04
|
You'll never get two to agree...
RayRay_z | 12/17/04
|
OSs
robapacl@... | 12/18/04
|
*LOL*
RimaDog@... | 12/18/04
|
All these posts about nothing!
blacksheepxlch1 | 12/18/04
|
secure operating system
broke | 12/18/04
|
OS Security
ps2988 | 12/18/04
|
Is everyone here missing the point
Justcauz | 12/18/04
|