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I think I can understand it, and on many an issue I am
torn. For instance yes even a single cell orgniziam is considered
life. So I have to admit that a conception is at the very least a
form of life. I also think it is very wrong to enslave a woman to
the fact that she is the carrier of said life. I am torn. My perfect
solution would be to create a birth control method that does
NOTHING in terms of harm to the sperm or egg, nor does it
change the womans bilology in any fashion. However the egg
itself is NOT harmed by covered in a shell that the sperm can
NOT get through. So I would think that everyone even most of
the extremests would feel that in this case no murder is done.
There are those however that this would not apease because I
once saw a woman holding a sign at a local abbortion clinic that
sated "Menstration is MURDER" so she and her ilk could not be
made happy.

However in many cases even though I can understand they way
they think...I can not agree with it. For to me Evil is evil, and
good is good. It does not mater to me the person or persons
doing the good are pagans, jews, muslims, and yes even
christians, or wicca's as long as they are doing good they are
good. And the same goes for evil, and it matters NOT to me if
their GOD orders them to do EVIL for if that is so then their God
is evil and their actions and I will have no part of said God.

Pagan jim
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Amen to that  nucrash | 12/01/04
Sorry but gotta disagree here  Linux User 147560 | 12/01/04
I'll Give It Some Credit  itanalyst | 12/01/04
What makes you think it is running Linux? NT  ShadeTree | 12/01/04
Read this please...  Linux User 147560 | 12/02/04
Message has been deleted.  JSilverman | 12/01/04
Don't blame him...  rapson | 12/01/04
And sometimes we just misunderstand one another  Laff | 12/02/04
To a point  rapson | 12/02/04
Agreed.  Laff | 12/02/04
See my reply below  rapson | 12/02/04
Do you REALLY want to know?  Roger Ramjet | 12/02/04
Interesting..I've never seen it put that way before.  Laff | 12/02/04
See, it IS impossible!  Roger Ramjet | 12/02/04
I think I can understand it, and on many an issue I am  Laff | 12/02/04
The "perfect" method?  Roger Ramjet | 12/02/04
I think that most morals based thinkers would consider  Laff | 12/02/04
You asked for it  Roger Ramjet | 12/02/04
Hey throw in a 6 months paid for GYM membership  Laff | 12/02/04
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 12/01/04
NOW THAT WAS FUNNY....heh heh heh..:) snicker  Laff | 12/02/04
It Was, Too Bad The ZDNet Bush Commies Deleted It  itanalyst | 12/02/04
I don't understand....I don't recall seeing anything  Laff | 12/02/04
Possibly...  rapson | 12/02/04
Oh...I did not so much catch that one..I enjoyed the  Laff | 12/02/04
True  rapson | 12/02/04
"Bush Commies"?  rapson | 12/02/04
You just don't learn do you?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
I have to say that both Carl and No AX have points  Laff | 12/02/04
Not much different then....  ShadeTree | 12/01/04
I've attached a handgun to my Roomba  Len Rooney | 12/01/04
What is there not to love about this robot  Squawkbox | 12/01/04
I'm not sure "IF" removing the human factor is wise.  Laff | 12/02/04
Technically not a robot. - just a contraption  jisgod | 12/01/04
Maybe in a utopia  Squawkbox | 12/01/04
*LOL* Someone watched the movie iRobot...heheheheh  Stellardyne | 12/01/04
iRobot is based on the books mentioned  voska | 12/02/04
Ya know..minus the whole "OBEY" thing and I wish  Laff | 12/02/04
I suspect...  rapson | 12/02/04
And you thought that viruses on a PC was the problem.....  michael-t | 12/01/04
Put the dumb "jokes" on hold a minute folks.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Sorry your childi is harms way AX...trully.  Laff | 12/02/04
Questions  rapson | 12/02/04
By destroying completely those who attack us, and on  Laff | 12/02/04
There it is  rapson | 12/02/04
No need to be sorry...what you said was right on the money  Laff | 12/02/04
Perhaps  rapson | 12/02/04
Fantastic Question:  Laff | 12/02/04
Laff: Trust  rapson | 12/02/04
EXACTLY!!!!  Laff | 12/02/04
I like that  rapson | 12/02/04
Oh and on the MEDICAL/INSURANCE/PHARMACUTICAL  Laff | 12/02/04
Huh  rapson | 12/02/04
I've been diabetic for over 35 years..now 42  Laff | 12/02/04
I can't resist adding to your list...  mactolinux | 12/02/04
Thanks  rapson | 12/03/04
As I said...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Nor did I indicate I thought it was your's or your son's  Laff | 12/02/04
Going back to Nam...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Perhaps....Like you I just don't know.  Laff | 12/02/04
I say we get back to the mother ship...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
One more thought... Would you fight it?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
In the history on people kind we simply do NOT give  Laff | 12/02/04
Soldiers don't fight wars, they fight battles.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Off the top of my head...would'nt a deap pit with  Laff | 12/02/04
Sure, if it an automoton..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Until they got use to it. I heard in WWII the Germans  Laff | 12/03/04

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