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Good, glad we could agree
You are not an admin and therefore cannot be a reliable source as to what Windows can and cannot do. I am not a MacOSX admin and therefore you do not see me going around saying that MacOSX sucks just because I don't know how to configure it to do the things I want it to do.

Now, let's examine your "proof":
Monolithic monstrosity: The security ramifications of this is greatly overblown. There have been some decisions that Microsoft have made in this area that I do not agree with but all by itself, it isn't enough to convince me to abandon ship.

Warnings against administrator: This is a default issue, not a design issue and has now been covered several times. FUD!

Many applications can't be run as non-administrator: You have yet to show even one. MS Office runs just fine as a non-administrator. FUD!

Ability to arbitrarily run code: Not using IE fixes 99.9% of these bugs. Firefox is great, you should look into it.

Shipping with security tools: Every single time Microsoft bundles anything into Windows, you Linux shills complain about monopoly behaviour. So which is it, should Microsoft bundle applications like firewalls or not? Regardless, they do, and in SP2, it is on by default. FUD!

Have a nice day, girl?
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Film at 11:00  ShadeTree | 11/23/04
What?  doe_z | 11/23/04
Aww, ya fell for it!  Martin Marvinski | 11/24/04
linux and firefox?  Monkey_MCSE | 11/23/04
Well Said Monkey!  itanalyst | 11/23/04
I guess..  d_jedi | 11/24/04
Read it and here is the quote  ShadeTree | 11/23/04
you can read the full story  Monkey_MCSE | 11/23/04
It is not the IE or Windows crowds that...  ShadeTree | 11/23/04
in fact, both crowds have people  Monkey_MCSE | 11/23/04
Really?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/23/04
Turning off the java reminder popups  Anton Philidor | 11/24/04
Depends if you are running as root  Harry Butts | 11/23/04
Hear hear!  Yen_z | 11/23/04
Are you sure?  PA-ITGuy | 11/23/04
Mr. Butts is correct  PA-ITGuy | 11/24/04
Better design?  NonZealot | 11/23/04
And, as usual,  AmusedAtItAll | 11/23/04
Consider yourself challenged  NonZealot | 11/23/04
Re: Consider yourself challenged  richdave | 11/23/04
I'm sorry  NonZealot | 11/24/04
can you tell me what most home users  Monkey_MCSE | 11/23/04
Finally a message worth putting some thought into  NonZealot | 11/23/04
Ah you try to flame... but only blow smoke!  Linux User 147560 | 11/23/04
You must be a terrible admin  NonZealot | 11/23/04
Reading comprehension  tic swayback | 11/23/04
Yes, let's talk about reading comprehension  NonZealot | 11/24/04
your still wrong  doh123 | 11/24/04
NonZealot is RIGHT!!!  DragonBRockin | 11/24/04
You're SURE you're not running as admin?  Michael Kelly | 11/24/04
Ahh, anecdotes...  Martin Marvinski | 11/24/04
Windows Permissions  wolf_z | 11/24/04
You sure like to hear yourself type!  NonZealot | 11/24/04
wolf  Martin Marvinski | 11/24/04
Irony is I am not an Admin!  Linux User 147560 | 11/24/04
Good, glad we could agree  NonZealot | 11/24/04
RE: Good glad we could agree  Linux User 147560 | 11/24/04
Non Zealot... here is a good read for you...  Linux User 147560 | 11/24/04
Sure you can run without admin privileges.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/24/04
What is your defn of day to day work?  NonZealot | 11/24/04
Oops, forgot a couple  NonZealot | 11/24/04
Fantastic  Martin Marvinski | 11/24/04
RE: fantastic  NonZealot | 11/24/04
Either that or...  rapson | 11/24/04
Re: Film at 11:00  richdave | 11/23/04
Oh come on....  mobrien_12@... | 11/23/04
There's no Java in MY FireFox...  Jomo_z | 11/24/04
Hmm...nice flamebait.  Linux_Developer | 11/24/04
oh - And...  Linux_Developer | 11/24/04
Arrogance and incompetence  FilledOut | 11/23/04
by that logic  doh123 | 11/24/04
Or AOL or Oracle  FilledOut | 11/24/04
Microsoft version of Java?  duclod | 11/23/04
MS Java was discontinued  Monkey_MCSE | 11/23/04
Since when?  htotten | 11/23/04
facts are straight, but if you use VS  Monkey_MCSE | 11/23/04
You're talking about different stuff  seosamh_z | 11/23/04
Your post said MS stopped developing JAVA.  htotten | 11/23/04
and if you're going to quote  Monkey_MCSE | 11/23/04
This is an interesting question.  mobrien_12@... | 11/23/04
Microsoft's JVM  PA-ITGuy | 11/24/04
MS version had its own flaws  CobraA1 | 11/25/04
Why the secrecy?  rapson | 11/23/04
Could it be...  PA-ITGuy | 11/23/04
Well...  rapson | 11/23/04
And see what hapens  PA-ITGuy | 11/23/04
Heres the problem *I* see  supercharlie | 11/23/04
If you're running J2RE it does autoupdate.  PA-ITGuy | 11/23/04
Perhaps I should add  PA-ITGuy | 11/23/04
Not necessarily  rapson | 11/23/04
Re:Not necessarily  PA-ITGuy | 11/23/04
Carl, it's the end users who are affected  Anton Philidor | 11/24/04
re : and see what happens  JasonL31 | 11/24/04
What *should* happen..  d_jedi | 11/24/04
Well, how about...  AmusedAtItAll | 11/23/04
No kidding.  mobrien_12@... | 11/23/04
I agree  JasonL31 | 11/24/04
JPEG flaw was unpatched by MS for 10 months!  David Hamilton | 11/24/04
So a hex on both of their houses  FilledOut | 11/24/04
Almost...  David Hamilton | 11/24/04
YES  JasonL31 | 11/24/04
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Am I the only who has disabled Java?  Expatriate US Geek | 11/24/04
Why I use Firefox - rather off-topic  Martin Marvinski | 11/24/04
I completely agree..  d_jedi | 11/24/04
Nope  FilledOut | 11/24/04
YES  JasonL31 | 11/24/04
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