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This is great.....:): The gift I was refering too was not so much the salvation but the
Life everyone tells me that God gave me. Now I don't want to
rehash my life..I've done that once or twice here anyway.
However needless to say I am NOT grateful. And the strings that
came attached with that Gift were either eternal suffering, or
eternal joy.

Now for a so called gift taht too me is not much better than that
damned Chrstmas tie that granda ma gives every year. You
know the one you would NEVER wear in a thousand years..but
none the less you have to smile and say "Thanks gram" and
throw it in the back of the closet still in the box..with the rest.
Now those are some pretting impressive strings to attach to
such a ahem gift.

Frankly and this is based on the whole "IF" you God and JC are
true that is but IF God wanted to do me a favor I would never
have been. That way while I would not enjoy these discussions
and on some level I would miss that....still compared to the
whole etermal suffering risk, and the overall quality of my life
which does not lead me to any feelings of love or gratitude
towards any creator image....well

Now as for Paul....well perhaps JC offered him what in his heart
he already knew he wanted, a BIG CAREER CHANGE:) Perhaps
like me his heart was always telling him that well what he was
doing on some level war WRONG even though his people and
society said GOOD JOB Paul and man are you GOOD at this
public service you are providing us...way to go Paul. Still Paul
needed that little extra push and JC provided it for him..gave
him a way out. Now me....I don't do what me heart tells me is
wrong. NEVER. I would sooner die and yes suffer eternaly for it
if that is the fate God wishes for me. But like I said that day long
ago when I got a direct order from God to place my sword into
the chest of an infant...that day I would have turned and pointed
my sword at my brothers and said the first of you two advance
on a child will die by my hand...I simply can NOT surreder that
to anyone not even GOD. (Well that is if I believed in God)

Which by the by you might appreciate that. Some day I might be
in your neighborhood and a voice might enter my head and say
"HEY jim this is God and these children here are going to go to
Hell because Satan has his eye on them...why don't you do them
and me a HUGE favor and kill them now so they can be with me?"

To which I would reply...BLANK you and the horse you rode in
on!

Yes I have a nice gun collection as well....:)

You know I really don't mind that people over the years have
claimed that JC and or God have helled them in any number of
fashions. Claims like I use to be a ***** and JC saved me...(Well
in truth I like easy women so that one is not all that cool with me
but you get my meaning over all) And there there is the I use to
be into drugs and JC saved me....etc, etc, etc, and I'm all good
with that....If you have those problems and need some sort of
focus to disipline yourself hey who am I to say you are WRONG!?!
However I don't drink much...Only occasionaly puff on a good
cigar. Never smoked or did drugs. I eat well and excercise. I
don't even sleep around nearly as much as I would like too, and
in fact cag go years without being with a woman and am
perfectly OK with that as well.

Yes in the end I don't know of a faith that can claim in it's history
to be without some real heavy sin burdens. This includes
Christianity and Muslims. So what does that mean? I don't
know.

"All glory and praise to warm Apple Pie, and a dolup of ice
cream"

Pagan jim; Posted by: Laff Posted on: 11/03/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use