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Explain Please: 1. How is this a hacker's dream? What port is open? When you send mail now, you make the outbound request to connect to an SMTP server. Unless your e-mail provider is stupid, you have to authenticate to do this.

Under this proposed solution, the intended recipient must request the mail. There is an authentication process associated with receiving mail through a POP server now.

2. How does this adversely affect CRM users? Setup your rules to accept mail from your CRM server. Why does this require anyone to buy more heavy iron hardware? I suggest that the total disk space alloted to storing e-mail would decline exponentially.

If a spammer, sends 10 million messages, there are 10 million messages stored somewhere as well as all of the bandwidth that is used to deliver the messages. With the proposed system, the spammer would have to store the message (it would still be just one message), but the would have to store the 10 million addresses on HIS server, not on POP3 servers all over the world. My mailbox only has in it what I want in it.

The servers supporting a CRM application would only have to deal with THEIR employees's messages, not junk that have nothing to do with their business.

3. Anyone who wanted to use POP3 servers could continue to do so. The author states this in the article. The entire Internet world does not have to agree to use this system.; Posted by: lstone@... Posted on: 10/11/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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We already have the means to stop... bjbrock | 10/08/04

Hasn't this been looked at and rejected? ejhonda | 10/08/04

Nothing will ever be 100% fool proof. bjbrock | 10/09/04

I Agree With You MannionTm | 10/11/04

SPF - looked at and rejected? winthropyu | 10/10/08

Yes, we do. SC-man | 10/08/04

The power of the consumer to change... bjbrock | 10/09/04

No, its called profit incentive jay@... | 10/11/04

Yes, it has been looked at zspai | 10/11/04

Incentive wallyweb@... | 10/08/04

Incentive offset ejhonda | 10/08/04

storage Middle of the Road | 10/08/04

The *ONLY* way to stop spam is $$$$ Jomo_z | 10/11/04

Stamp Out Stamps rjmcgaffin@... | 11/10/04

Sounds good. ejhonda | 10/08/04

Sounds good... for spammers jim_in_phoenix | 10/11/04

Nice try, but kiddpeat | 10/11/04

How does that help me? Jomo_z | 10/12/04

Actually much of today's spam is not stored on the sender's server Taz_z | 10/08/04

Re-read the article lstone@... | 10/11/04

Re-read the article ToddMarshall | 10/12/04

re: Re-read the article Wolfie2K3 | 10/12/04

This idea is ludicrous htotten | 10/08/04

Ludicrous? Entirely wrong on both counts., dberlind | 10/08/04

Three issues... MerryOtter | 10/11/04

Orwelian crap? wresnick | 10/11/04

one more point about Orwellian crap. wresnick | 10/11/04

Orwellian Crap MerryOtter | 10/11/04

good points wresnick | 10/12/04

Partly right, but for a different reason wresnick | 10/11/04

Wrong on One More Count jaoifalkjsdao | 10/11/04

this also depends on the user wresnick | 10/11/04

The ISP's win lstone@... | 10/11/04

How I got here... Margaret Brock | 10/08/04

Re: using RSS Feeds Bruceslog_z | 10/11/04

link Bruceslog_z | 10/11/04

last try Bruceslog_z | 10/11/04

Hello? Spammers are already doing this cfortune | 10/08/04

Two BIG things wrong mikegalos@... | 10/11/04

You missed the point poppedcorn | 10/11/04

Not exactly... jaydyess | 10/11/04

Hopefully not... randysmith@... | 10/11/04

Re. Hopefully not ToddMarshall | 10/11/04

Let's do this................HOW? gburke@... | 10/11/04

Who's in charge? JackM_z | 10/11/04

"This sounds like an excellent solution..." Jomo_z | 10/11/04

Pay attention BIGDSEW | 10/11/04

I Paid attention...now you try it... Jomo_z | 10/12/04

One other item ... KS99 | 10/11/04

This is NUTS! riff7raff | 10/11/04

Explain Please lstone@... | 10/11/04

Email changes? jskline0@... | 10/11/04

OK for some , but not all archief | 10/15/04

It sounds good -- BUT fitobetied | 10/11/04

Where does the message go? lstone@... | 10/11/04

Where does the message go? Jomo_z | 10/11/04

Where does the message go? lstone@... | 10/12/04

Huh? Jomo_z | 10/12/04

Sounds good? Nope.... Jomo_z | 10/11/04

You don't seem to get it... misereor | 10/12/04

Blocking servers... Jomo_z | 10/12/04

Re: misereor | 10/14/04

Viruses thaddeusq | 10/11/04

A case for "spoofing" Kevin Dean | 10/11/04

I Like it Bruceslog_z | 10/11/04

Good idea, but not necessarily necessary wresnick | 10/11/04

Necessary Kevin Dean | 10/11/04

But that would not work wresnick | 10/12/04

Slight misunderstanding on my part Kevin Dean | 10/14/04

I think we are converging wresnick | 10/14/04

We've converged Kevin Dean | 10/15/04

Leaving to sender does not work now. rpage_z | 10/11/04

RE: Validating Bruceslog_z | 10/11/04

I wonder.... Stu_z | 10/11/04

Prior "pull email" discussions zspai | 10/11/04

Thanks, but David can't read. JohnBeaman | 10/11/04

Leave (spam) to the sender cshul | 10/11/04

Spoofing the recipient Gezelig | 10/11/04

Must be a recipient initiated request wscottcross@... | 10/11/04

Actually, this IS preposterous gadfly_z | 10/11/04

When are ISP going to filter OUTGOING emails? JohnBeaman | 10/11/04

Spammers will hate it, but kiddpeat | 10/11/04

You can find no problem? Are you stupid? JohnBeaman | 10/11/04

You can find no problem? Are you stupid? Grolan | 10/11/04

I see clueless people... misereor | 10/12/04

Not a good idea howard@... | 10/11/04

How does my mail server know the mail if for you? john.gruber@... | 10/11/04

You have a valid complaint, but... misereor | 10/12/04

requring certificates john.gruber@... | 10/12/04

SPAM & Spyware G T Baker | 10/12/04

Good and Bad ... ghastly | 10/15/04

The payoff could be a lot quicker wresnick | 10/15/04

www.spamexile.com PDurrant | 10/15/04

They are not doing that at all wresnick | 10/15/04

Spam jlund25@... | 10/17/04

No simple solution will do it. Robert Carnegie | 10/18/04

see this url for an article to read tldwg04011 | 12/13/04

Is there a software that does this now? MajorEd | 02/26/05

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