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I wouldn't trust MS
I wouldn't trust a security product from MS. I think that they should stay out of anti-spyware, anti-virus and personal firewalls, anything else they add to the OS only makes it more vulnerable because of the greater chance for flaws. Instead they should make it easier for the exsiting security companies to make their products seamless to the OS when they are installed, and leave it to the hardware companies to bundle the software on new machines.
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I wouldn't trust MS  jfp | 10/05/04
Once again, MS innovates...  Mike Cox | 10/05/04
Time to open your eyes Mike Cox, and fire your rep: 7.5  dave95 | 10/05/04
Anyone running an enterprise on Longhorn alpha code...  Anton Philidor | 10/05/04
Nice one  shallow_diver | 10/05/04
8.0  CobraA1 | 10/05/04
We don't need anti-spyware products...  Jomo_z | 10/05/04
HUH???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
That's not the issue at all  wresnick | 10/05/04
So your saying users need training. I agree.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
Re: So your saying users need training. I agree.  none none | 10/05/04
Yes and no  wresnick | 10/05/04
Wasn't really MS that did that push.  IT Scion | 10/07/04
A lot of it isn't MS' problem  rpmyers1 | 10/05/04
What!!!?  Hanky8 | 10/05/04
Malware is NOT Microsoft's fault  dberlind | 10/05/04
I have to throw a BS flag on this one..  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
Answering your own criticism  Anton Philidor | 10/05/04
True..  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
No Patrick, that is your opinion and nothing more.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
And..  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
Then make a choice and live with it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
Yes, and..  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
"part of the OS" in the eye of the beholder..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Self-healing is the term (I think)  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
Unethical? No way!  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Differences of opinion..  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
I guess it is..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Bad cars, bad code  jzed | 10/05/04
I agree completely  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Could you name the perp?  Anton Philidor | 10/05/04
The perp..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Are you sure?  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
I am sure that was the site..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Are you sure? yes the whois command tells it all  trmmcc1@... | 10/06/04
Addition:  d_jedi | 10/05/04
removal tool for hard to kill spyware  dhodgert@... | 10/05/04
re: I agree  Iain_Peters | 10/06/04
re: I agree  Iain_Peters | 10/06/04
I can still blame them  wresnick | 10/05/04
Um, why aren't you current then?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
Re: Um, why aren't you current then?  none none | 10/05/04
Great point!  Spoon Jabber | 10/05/04
There's a good reason why I'm not current  wresnick | 10/05/04
90% of users infected Agreed to install it  GregSalts | 10/05/04
Malware is NOT Microsoft's fault  dberlind | 10/05/04
Whose fault?  wresnick | 10/05/04
Product Features.  Domb2 | 10/05/04
RE Malware is not...  Iain_Peters | 10/06/04
MYDOOM.A  rpmyers1 | 10/05/04
Open APIs  drdozer | 10/05/04
Great News  alterego_z | 10/05/04
Bill Gates Can Take His...  DragonBRockin | 10/05/04
Bill Gates Can Take His...  DragonBRockin | 10/05/04
Bill Gates can change Windows as needed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
ms is a monopoly  V Sanders | 10/05/04
Gates is the Chief Software Architect.  B.O.F.H. | 10/05/04
Wait a minute!  Anton Philidor | 10/05/04
ROFLMAO  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
Bill doesn't write production code, not for the past 15 years.  B.O.F.H. | 10/05/04
re: Bill Gates can change Windows as needed.  Iain_Peters | 10/06/04
No mention of anti-trust?  Rodney Davis | 10/05/04
Sadly, you are probably right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
heh  CobraA1 | 10/05/04
Double huh?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
re Double  Iain_Peters | 10/06/04
just don't bolt the app that competes with a 3rd party app to the os  V Sanders | 10/05/04
More bundled software is not needed.  wresnick | 10/05/04
Be careful...they will control too much...  Paul C. | 10/05/04
SO your position is they should do nothing?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
No, The Consensus Is They Should FIX Their Shoddy Operating Systems First  itanalyst | 10/05/04
re: so your...  Iain_Peters | 10/06/04
Spyware and ZDNet  jpdunn@... | 10/05/04
Why buy when Microsoft can partner?  Anton Philidor | 10/05/04
Re: Why buy when Microsoft can partner?  none none | 10/05/04
Dammed if they do, Dammed if they don't.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
Antivirus, firewalls don't fix bugs!  CobraA1 | 10/05/04
You don't understand the concept of elf-healing software..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Writing robust sofware is possible  wresnick | 10/05/04
There are a number of differences..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
No, but I wouldn't mind learning.  Anton Philidor | 10/05/04
that's the past  wresnick | 10/05/04
ha ha.  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Clue for you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
No  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Not on a properly configured and ...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
If you're so confident then..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Went there and nothing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
OK.. true to my word, SP2 will be installed on my machine..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
I Went There Too And Nothing Happened  itanalyst | 10/05/04
I *should* be using Firefox..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
additionally..  d_jedi | 10/05/04
true, I guess  CobraA1 | 10/05/04
Wasted space?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
so you mind if i move in to your house  V Sanders | 10/05/04
Not if you live in a tiny crack in the wall.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
That's just silly  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
Not really...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/05/04
The Point Cobra Makes Is Microsloth IS Wasted Space  itanalyst | 10/05/04
Two different issues  rapson | 10/05/04
It's not completely off topic  Michael Kelly | 10/05/04
They're a lot more dammed if they don't  Michael Kelly | 10/05/04
Even if Microsoft fixed all the security holes..  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
No, It's Called A Day Late And A Dollar Short  itanalyst | 10/05/04
re : Dammed if they do, Dammed if they don't.  V Sanders | 10/05/04
Why can't the DOJ get serious too?  riff7raff | 10/05/04
More laws is not the solution  rpmyers1 | 10/05/04
The ultimate fix?  George Mitchell | 10/05/04
You mean cleaner Windows, I take it.  Anton Philidor | 10/05/04
Internal fixes are probably needed  noynaert | 10/05/04
Not practical  rpmyers1 | 10/05/04
Microsofts XP  ParadigmOdyssey | 10/05/04
Gates gets serious about spyware  rosman | 10/05/04
Gates himself and Linux HAS no virus'  Roger Ramjet | 10/05/04
People need to take Linux more seriously  wresnick | 10/05/04
title should read, gates wants to dicide what *is* spyware(nt)  V Sanders | 10/05/04
what ms needs to do  V Sanders | 10/05/04
So many here don't use it  FilledOut | 10/05/04
I don't care about the darned Politics  BitTwiddler | 10/05/04
Microsoft Wish features that would greatly enhance system security.  spam@... | 10/05/04
Defaults..  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
Oops, this was supposed to be for d_jedi!  Patrick Jones | 10/05/04
Re: Defaults  d_jedi | 10/05/04
Default HTML associations  d13master | 10/05/04
Gates gets serious, starts talking and ZDNet prints  Richard Flude | 10/05/04
Why can ANYTHING be installed by a web page?  thinkreal | 10/06/04
Linux/Mac idiots do it again!  rsharp@... | 10/07/04
Get free anti-spyware downloads now here!  anthonycea | 10/09/04

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