Catastrophic loss for unencumbered standards

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Agreed. Arguing motive only.: You wrote:
The ONLY thing that would have happened is the end user would have to click "I agree" to use the code and not re-distribute it without authorization. That is the sticking point open source just can't deal with.

Yes.
I was arguing only with your contention that the reason it's a "sticking point" is petulance. I say it's the philosophical aversion to anything that has to do with control over software by profit-making companies.

Whichever is true, the take-away is that much spam will be distributed because of the attitude of open source advocates. You're right.; Posted by: Anton Philidor Posted on: 09/24/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Of course you have to blame Microsoft. Xunil_Sierutuf | 09/24/04

Of course YOU have to blame Microsoft.. d_jedi | 09/24/04

Made a good point though about IE thing(NT) voska | 09/24/04

Not really.. d_jedi | 09/24/04

SenderID minus the contamination = SPF Nigel Johnstone | 09/24/04

Thanks for the info! Yen_z | 09/24/04

SPF seems workable as-is. stefan fiala | 09/24/04

You are a lamer Hayvern | 09/24/04

Well... php_developer | 09/24/04

really? richdave | 09/26/04

The open source comunity could have a working standard in no time. DonnieBoy | 09/24/04

Patents htotten | 09/24/04

David, two sides of the coin. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

I wouldn't be surprised.. d_jedi | 09/24/04

re: I wouldn't be surprised.. richdave | 09/26/04

Philosophical purity Anton Philidor | 09/24/04

I have to disagree. At least in this case. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

They've done it before, will again. Anton Philidor | 09/24/04

You missed key point... No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

Agreed. Arguing motive only. Anton Philidor | 09/24/04

We both agree then. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

And yet, you both are wrong.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

No you are wrong there. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

Yes.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

We shall see. (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

The problem is... John L. Ries | 09/25/04

the ramblings of two intellectual lightweights hipparchus2000 | 09/26/04

You both missed the point none none | 09/25/04

anton and noax churning out the old BS about communism hipparchus2000 | 09/26/04

One major problem.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

But what happened? No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

So.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

I'm taking my ball and going home. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

If that is your attitude... Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

re: But what happened? richdave | 09/26/04

NoAx never ever gives proof of anything just warped opinions hipparchus2000 | 09/26/04

i agree ms should of plaid nice V Sanders | 09/24/04

Standards for Interoperability chodne@... | 09/24/04

That is one opinion, that of the small minority. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

Yes.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

Not worth the effort... No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

Pathetic.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

Sorry you are qwrong. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

So you have an insider? Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

NoAx never ever gives proof of anything just warped opinions hipparchus2000 | 09/26/04

Your not winning the argument here voska | 09/24/04

Re: That is one opinion, that of the small minority. none none | 09/25/04

The Internet is built on open standards... John L. Ries | 09/25/04

re: That is one opinion, that of the small minority. richdave | 09/26/04

Why standards should be open... RestonTechAlec | 09/26/04

Is IS open to all.. d_jedi | 09/24/04

100% spot on! (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

once again total lack of proof of any kind makes NoAx look pathetic hipparchus2000 | 09/26/04

There is a big reason.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

Who had to pay for anything? No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/24/04

Maybe.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

re:Who had to pay for anything? richdave | 09/26/04

an IETF standard has nothing to do with GNU Public Licence hipparchus2000 | 09/26/04

Pay what??! d_jedi | 09/24/04

True.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

Well.. d_jedi | 09/24/04

Patents are probably the issue voska | 09/24/04

Voska, we agree, almost. Anton Philidor | 09/24/04

d_jedi, you say "microsoft said this", "free software people said". PROOF hipparchus2000 | 09/26/04

100% spot on V Sanders | 09/24/04

Re: Is IS open to all.. none none | 09/25/04

Which 90% ? Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/24/04

he ment 90% of the most up to date windows users V Sanders | 09/24/04

Re: David, two sides of the coin. none none | 09/25/04

Thanks, this puts NoAx firmly in his place hipparchus2000 | 09/26/04

Microsoft & "Standards" Cannot Be in the same Sentence. brenthawkinsmd | 09/24/04

Right! It's an Oxymoron. Irritated User | 10/01/04

In this case, who IS Goliath? alterego_z | 09/24/04

Meeting breakdown is just a set back. SPF is alive and well. Peter Komisar | 09/24/04

Yes, hear hear! cfortune | 09/24/04

What does Microsoft intend to do? Anton Philidor | 09/24/04

How.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

What's to stop... John L. Ries | 09/25/04

Agreed. Anton Philidor | 09/26/04

Re: What does Microsoft intend to do? none none | 09/25/04

and also none none | 09/25/04

"... devolved the functionality to the client ..." Anton Philidor | 09/26/04

Is an ID really necessary? mgfint | 09/24/04

Sort of.. Patrick Jones | 09/24/04

Re: Sort of.. none none | 09/25/04

I agree V Sanders | 09/26/04

Patents htotten | 09/24/04

Why innovate when you can merely imitate.. d_jedi | 09/24/04

Yes, Get Real! Irritated User | 10/01/04

Still no internet standards from Medicoresoft kensys | 09/24/04

ROYALTY FREE?? d_jedi | 09/24/04

what a giant contribution! hipparchus2000 | 09/26/04

Only an MS loyalist would regard patented/licensed to be a donation kensys | 09/29/04

SPF is quietly taking over - and quickly! cfortune | 09/24/04

SPF is still the perfect compliment to sendiotc | 09/24/04

we all know that monitoring spam V Sanders | 09/24/04

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