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"Whether an OS is considdered to be affected by a certain
vulnerability is not determined by the state that the feature
ships in (enabled or disabled)."

Of course it is. Millions of vulnerabilities possibility exist in
every large OS, however as MS has learnt (belatedly) the OS
can actually be protected with something as simple as
enabling a firewall (default in SP2, forever in Mac OS X).

Not only does this affect the severity of the vulnerability,
the chances vulnerability can be exploited in the wild, but
also it can make the vulnerability irrelevant!

"Saying something is not turned on by default does _not_
put you in the clear."

Actually it does. All Mac OS X users that have not set-up a
kerberos domain do not have to worry about this issue.
Indeed it is possible to have set-up a domain without the
features mentioned and it too would be safe.

"The feature ships with OS X. The feature is flawed. It
needs to be patched. Deal with it. Don't try to be in denial
about it. OS X has already lost its "pristine, flawless" image
and there's nothing you can do to get it back."

Sorry it only "needs" to be patched if you are using the
feature - this is not a denial but fact.

And by the way Mac OS X has not had a flawless image, in
fact a large number of security patches have been made
available throughout its history. I'm sure many more are on
there way. However, we must concede its record is better
than some (we know who).

But above all your post demonstrates what I've said all
along about the skills of the MSCEs.
Posted by: Richard Flude   Posted on: 09/08/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.  gfeier | 09/07/04
Huh, what's that?  Squawkbox | 09/07/04
Oh but wait  prong@... | 09/07/04
You said it, not us  hayesk | 09/08/04
There's a lot to see here  Qbt | 09/07/04
Where did I say...  gfeier | 09/07/04
All that time...  Qbt | 09/07/04
Where did I say...  gfeier | 09/08/04
MS invented FUD!  MacGeek2121 | 09/08/04
which has nothing to do  eLurker | 09/08/04
SpyWare  nikoli | 09/08/04
Are you insane?  Rick_K | 09/07/04
kerberos is an app? (nt)  eLurker | 09/08/04
I don't use Mac OS X, and probably never will  Monkey_MCSE | 09/07/04
Well I guess you missed my point  Qbt | 09/07/04
If I were a virus writer I wouldn't go after Microsoft  Linux User 147560 | 09/08/04
Ahhh, but which Unix  PA-ITGuy | 09/08/04
You just made a point for me that  Linux User 147560 | 09/08/04
Re: You just made a point for me that  PA-ITGuy | 09/08/04
your point...  ryusen | 09/08/04
You are exactly right and if security is a principle  mlindl | 09/08/04
i guess  eLurker | 09/08/04
But Petey!  Linux User 147560 | 09/08/04
Sorry but I can not agree with all your statements.  computer_man | 09/08/04
I am aware of key loggers  Linux User 147560 | 09/08/04
Then you must be aware of what they can do.  computer_man | 09/08/04
They ARE flaws in Windows  KSchaefer | 09/08/04
Microsoft...  Qbt | 09/08/04
The only flawed logic...  MacCanuck | 09/08/04
Yes, not the best analogy  Qbt | 09/08/04
but there are 30 million juicy often rich Apple users on the net  hipparchus2000 | 09/08/04
ummm it's the same kerberos in MS  Monkey_MCSE | 09/08/04
Trying SO hard...  Qbt | 09/08/04
apparently, MIT said differently, but you knew that right?  Monkey_MCSE | 09/08/04
Re:apparently, MIT said differently...  Qbt | 09/08/04
unreasonable inference from flawed logic  hipparchus2000 | 09/08/04
oddly enough  eLurker | 09/08/04
Windows NOT vulnerable  Qbt | 09/08/04
And neither is Mac OS X  Richard Flude | 09/08/04
In the Real World...  Qbt | 09/08/04
Really?  Richard Flude | 09/08/04
Entry Barrier  Jkirk3279 | 09/08/04
Correction  d_jedi | 09/07/04
Zdnet, don't report any Apple news that could be deemed negative  FilledOut | 09/08/04
but  eLurker | 09/08/04
the dreaded False Dichotomy defence boringly so  hipparchus2000 | 09/08/04
you have made a dreaded incorrect assumption  eLurker | 09/20/04
This cannot be!!!!  James T. Kirk | 09/08/04
Look at the scoreboard  Fred Flintsone | 09/08/04
Enough already!  MacVet | 09/08/04
En0ugh already!  wiskowst | 09/08/04
small correction  eLurker | 09/08/04
easier is the key, not bigger  hipparchus2000 | 09/08/04
no, both are the key  eLurker | 09/20/04
I agree with your first paragraph, maybe you should read it  bnordberg | 09/09/04
Message has been deleted.  Outside T. Box | 09/08/04
I'm Looking!  MacGeek2121 | 09/08/04
*nix CANT CATCH a VIRUS - EVER!  Roger Ramjet | 09/09/04
*nix CANT CATCH a VIRUS - EVER!  Roger Ramjet | 09/09/04
market share  doh123 | 09/08/04
actually like this  hipparchus2000 | 09/08/04
Apple Applications  Jkirk3279 | 09/08/04
Wow, this forum just gets better and better  FilledOut | 09/08/04
GOS2  nomorems | 09/08/04
what about  hipparchus2000 | 09/08/04
Good day  FilledOut | 09/10/04
you mean apple didn't force new features  V Sanders | 09/08/04
Re: force new features  alterego_z | 09/08/04
Maybe they silently turned off iTune features  FilledOut | 09/08/04
I guess this leaves Linux as the only perfect OS?  Prognosticator | 09/08/04
well it's alright even if Linux had 20 times as many exploits as windows  hipparchus2000 | 09/08/04

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