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Are you trully willing to do "What ever it takes"
to keep your wife and kids housed, fed, and safe? I mean is there a line you will NOT cross?

While on one level it is a VERY noble sentiment. On the other side of the coin it is very dangerous. Someone who manages a chemical plant for the MAN. Has a good paying job..lot's of benefits, a family.... and all he has to do is make the quota's month to month. However that means bending the safety rules, and one day a town in India/or good ole US of A wakes up to a cloud of chlorine (or should I say..doen NOT wake up)

Is there a moral line between taking care of your own and the suffering of countless others because you need to get yours..and besides you don't know these others?

Now I know this has very little to do with MS or an OS in general (some may agrue that MS/Windows does cause a lot of suffering however..hee hee hee) Still you did say "What ever it takes"

"All glory and praise to Allah"

Cleric jim
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It's called the "Microsoft Challenge"...  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/17/04
As opposed to 'User Base' challenged what?  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
That's a LIE  itanalyst | 08/17/04
Exactly  Jeff Spicoli | 08/17/04
You average user you NT  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
I wonder how long will the unpatched Mac  Laff | 08/18/04
A long time. Nobody's interested  seosamh_z | 08/18/04
the "average user"  ryusen | 08/18/04
right  Jeff Spicoli | 08/17/04
re: right  cbradshaw@... | 08/19/04
Easy...  ScottT | 08/17/04
XP SP2 Patched PCs Crash in 5 Minutes  itanalyst | 08/17/04
Mac  nomorems | 08/17/04
Unfortunately....  Flablooie | 08/18/04
How about 5 seconds?  keltek | 08/17/04
you are correct...  Monkey_MCSE | 08/17/04
Very true  toadlife | 08/17/04
No Maccy?  Jeff Spicoli | 08/17/04
My experience with Macs is...  toadlife | 08/17/04
Forgot Mac  nomorems | 08/17/04
yep  toadlife | 08/17/04
COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE TO SECURING A NEW WINDOWS SYSTEM  itanalyst | 08/17/04
Re: COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE TO SECURING A NEW WINDOWS SYSTEM  DragonBRockin | 08/17/04
Re: Comprehensive Guide To Securing A New Windows System  in-DUH-vidual | 08/17/04
RE: Comprehensive Guide...  alajon | 08/19/04
Yet another ZDNet article lacking in details...  Michael Kelly | 08/17/04
Oh and one other thing...  Michael Kelly | 08/17/04
You bet  nomorems | 08/17/04
So the article's up to scratch then  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
Yes, it does happen  Fred Fredrickson | 08/17/04
The details....  Jomo_z | 08/17/04
Lacking in Details  CodeBubba | 08/19/04
Re: Yet another ZD Net. . .  seatech1 | 08/19/04
Simple Solution!!!  Heatlesssun | 08/17/04
Never work.  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
Yet another ZDNyet article with a deceptive title  Seething Ganglia | 08/17/04
Did you not understand the article? NT  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
WHAT THE TITLE OF THE ARTICLE SHOULD BE  itanalyst | 08/17/04
Like SQL Server Worm  brenthawkinsmd | 08/17/04
Nice try  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
So Strange That Anyone Would Defend Microsoft...  brenthawkinsmd | 08/17/04
It's not strange at all  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
I bet you're proud...  brenthawkinsmd | 08/17/04
Morals  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
Are you trully willing to do "What ever it takes"  Laff | 08/18/04
To Laff: Whatever it takes  seosamh_z | 08/18/04
Morals  CodeBubba | 08/19/04
well about moving jobs to India..  computer_man | 08/17/04
So strange anyone wouldn't...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/18/04
even more strange that...  ryusen | 08/18/04
Not quite true.  Joel R | 08/18/04
Blasphemy!  toadlife | 08/17/04
Like I Said...  brenthawkinsmd | 08/17/04
Doctor. doctor, it hurts when I do this  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
Uh huh. Go on with your elitism  toadlife | 08/17/04
No Firewall?  ScottT | 08/17/04
Like I Said...  CodeBubba | 08/19/04
Where's our buddy No_Ax running to MicroSloth's Defense?  itanalyst | 08/17/04
Your thick, sloping cranium tells me you're a Linux user.  chrislovesdana | 08/17/04
My thick sloping cranium tells you I should have read your post first.  chrislovesdana | 08/17/04
I heard about a guy in Des Moines  itanalyst | 08/17/04
I heard...  Martin Marvinski | 08/17/04
I heard at the factory, when they test the ethernet port..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/17/04
PC infected cause the owner had flu ...  Ardian Daka | 08/18/04
It's worse than you think.  Joel R | 08/18/04
If you're dumb enough to give an unpatched system a public ip address.....  chrislovesdana | 08/17/04
I would fix my own brakes  Martin Marvinski | 08/17/04
EXACTLY!!!!  itanalyst | 08/17/04
Yes but  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
You're missing the point  chrislovesdana | 08/17/04
That's not going to happen  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
right - cause ms makes it so simple  V Sanders | 08/17/04
The biggest security vulnerability on your computer is the power button.  chrislovesdana | 08/17/04
What rubbish!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/17/04
"Interation?"  Judas I. | 08/17/04
No user interaction?  Fred Fredrickson | 08/17/04
I have to disagree with you.  computer_man | 08/17/04
AHAHAHA, wrong  Valis Keogh | 08/17/04
Ran a test over night. Nothing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/18/04
Um..  Patrick Jones | 08/18/04
Good oh then ... RTFA  Fred Fredrickson | 08/18/04
Can you define "unpatched"?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/18/04
Can you read?  sa_z | 08/18/04
DMZ port?  sa_z | 08/18/04
No, my router allows one port to be a DMZ.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/18/04
No and neither does yours.  sa_z | 08/18/04
Oh, I am so NOT impressed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/18/04
1.5  sa_z | 08/18/04
Depends which port you are talking about  voska | 08/18/04
They do ..... LoL  computer_man | 08/18/04
This lines shows the problem  voska | 08/18/04
Well i think that's what their problem is.  computer_man | 08/18/04
To SA and Ax before you start bashing yourself with keyboards  computer_man | 08/18/04
It's really simple  agottschald | 08/19/04
The idea is to turn off the firewall  Taz_z | 08/18/04
Chanllenge?  sa_z | 08/18/04
Default configuration is not "properly configured"  CobraA1 | 08/18/04
Spam: TalkBack Ignore List  marksashton | 08/17/04
?  Linux User 147560 | 08/17/04
You did not...  computer_man | 08/17/04
Well that explains it!  Linux User 147560 | 08/17/04
Sorry, won't work...  Plain Logic | 08/17/04
You're so sweet NT  seosamh_z | 08/17/04
It make take time but it will work.  computer_man | 08/17/04
maybe it would if....  V Sanders | 08/17/04
20 minutes? HAH!!!  Dave P. | 08/17/04
The challenge ahead ...  George Mitchell | 08/17/04
Preaching to the choir... tell that to the evil empire  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/17/04
So what about...  rapson | 08/18/04
Excellent point Carl, but don't get me started on this one!  George Mitchell | 08/18/04
Sneakernet  sa_z | 08/18/04
If sharing your system with hackers is a step forward ...  George Mitchell | 08/18/04
No just use firewall  sa_z | 08/18/04
Another solution for safe LAN file sharing:  Joel R | 08/18/04
Your Point is Well Takin  wiskyjon | 08/18/04
Simple solution = DITCH WINDOWS  ITGuy04 | 08/17/04
Have no fear, the industry is listening...  Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/17/04
Linux and Mac users  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 08/17/04
Aren't accronyms done like this  voska | 08/18/04
No..  Patrick Jones | 08/18/04
They do  seosamh_z | 08/18/04
What is a pep(s)? Yes a pro can get into your  Laff | 08/18/04
Peps = people  seosamh_z | 08/18/04
Is the difference betwen your PC and Mac as  Laff | 08/18/04
Where are you going today?  seosamh_z | 08/18/04
Load system disconnected from net  FilledOut | 08/18/04
New process for patching?  sa_z | 08/18/04
Or use Knoppix  bit_rot | 08/18/04
Some of the techs at work proposed such  FilledOut | 08/18/04
Easily resolved; simply build systems off-line.  JonathonDoe | 08/18/04
Home users?  sa_z | 08/18/04
Jonathon has a point ...  George Mitchell | 08/18/04
One step further  sa_z | 08/18/04
Pure Garbage, hype the fear, ZDNET should be ashamed  Protector | 08/18/04
Which world do you come from?  George Mitchell | 08/18/04
He just doesn't turn them on - ultimate safety  j.m.galvin | 08/18/04
What about MSBlaster and the like?  voska | 08/18/04
I disagree - it's not fair to blame the users  sfphil | 08/18/04
German security firm warning of security flaws in SP2  whisperycat | 08/18/04
Yeah read that too  voska | 08/18/04
M$ is SOOOO weak  NonZealot | 08/18/04
Install behind a firewall  Dawnsman | 08/18/04
It's Time to Protect Your Product Manufacturers  wiskyjon | 08/18/04
Using rcn.com WinXP+SP1 is destroyed in under one minute  sfphil | 08/18/04
Unpatched PCs won't last 20 minutes  pbiss | 08/18/04
Patches vs Firewalls  Sabro | 08/19/04
only 20 min  maartin@... | 08/19/04
20 minutes?  Suprchief | 08/19/04
How did you test to find Compromise  johnydii | 08/19/04

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