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RE: Antivirus is 'completely wasted money': Cisco CSO
While I don't think AV is a complete waste of time and money it isn't my primary security measure. I have many layers of security but the most important is the educating my users.

90% of the time (my own personal statistic) users are going to be the source of an AV out break. All those cute little chain letters that they just have to open and then launch terror on the network. I like Trend Micro's little lock down tool that allows me to shutdown the network connections of machines when they become infected until they are deemed network worthy again.

Above and beyond that it is all about good firewall policies, doing my best to stop infection (preventing executable and scripts from being sent/received on the email server, proper switch and router security configuration, and plain old education of the users. I'll even use the odd infection that makes it past all my security measures as a learning and teaching experience for myself and staff.

In summary, AV is part of a bigger solution that is top down with the top being my users and education.
Posted by: rmlounsbury@...   Posted on: 05/21/08  (Edited: 05/21/2008 @ 09:31) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Which operating systems would those be?  ye | 05/21/08
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Sorry but you'll have to do better:  ye | 05/21/08
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Right...  glashoppah | 05/21/08
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That is not true  GuidingLight | 05/22/08
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REALLY?  NHMtnMan | 05/21/08
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Totally agree  cmosentine | 05/21/08
Medical Practice problems  TucsonGuy | 05/21/08
Yes SoftDent is a security nightmare!  frankinks | 05/21/08
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Why?  ceward_z | 05/21/08
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Vundo....  sframberger@... | 05/22/08
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RE: Antivirus is 'completely wasted money': Cisco CSO  dingers412@... | 05/22/08
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