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Indulge in high risk online activity like the kind discussed in the article:

"choose to go to a (probably dodgy) website, accept the ActiveX control prompts to download (probably dodgy) code and I actually choose to execute that code"

Now, despite the fact that we all know nobody bothers to create any significant amount of malware for OSX, there have been reports from time to time of potential risks in OSX and Safari. But the risks to OSX and Safari typically come by way of the afore mentioned reckless online behaviour; and rightly so, Apple enthusiasts laugh in the face of people who suggest that OSX is at any kind of serious risk itself if potential vulnerabilities have to use social engineering and reckless online behaviour to get malicious code on the system. We also all know there is no way yet known to stop malicious code from executing on any system or OS if the user invites it in and hits "execute", and then promptly ignores all warnings.

So lay off the poorly thought out claim that safe online usage of an Apple computer, or a Linux box compares in any way to some self destructive jackass using Vista to explore questionable websites to download and purposely install infected files and then run them while ignoring warnings.

I can say with all confidence, that if Apple sold enough computers to matter in the real world there would not only be some hackers who would take an interest and create some nasty viral material for OSX, there would also be at that point just enough of the population actually using Apples that there would be some Apple using idiots who would install the viruses just the same as the Vista using idiots now do.
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yes, yes. yes  exxtraz | 05/16/08
You are 100% right  NonZealot | 05/16/08
Mostly true but...  gfeier | 05/16/08
I've had the same experience with Windows and Linux  NonZealot | 05/16/08
I see that you , like L.D. have finally embraced LINUX ,,,  AdventTech67 | 05/16/08
Not exactly...  gfeier | 05/18/08
Same here  Your Mom 2.0 | 05/22/08
Sounds like my experience with Windows.  ye | 05/16/08
I assume it was not connected...  Solid Water | 05/16/08
Both examples are almost four years old and...  ye | 05/17/08
Better still, use Linux  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 05/20/08
since day one of Vista  Khyron | 05/19/08
Corporate America?s rejection of Vista  Ole Man | 05/19/08
Try this...  Cayble | 05/19/08
This Dude is a SERIOUS Windows Junkie  swbobcat | 05/19/08
This DUDE is a SERIOUS Apple Jack  Cayble | 05/22/08
And you're not...  olePigeon | 05/16/08
Don't give facts to the Zealot...  Bruizer | 05/17/08
Oh, don't worry about that..  msalzberg | 05/18/08
Great Believer in "Truthiness", is Our MicroShaft Bigot Zealot!  drprodny | 05/19/08
Two wrongs...  mdsock@... | 05/19/08
See how they pay you no mind?  tikigawd | 05/20/08
Pay you no mind  Axsimulate | 05/20/08
Message has been deleted.  labarker | 05/19/08
We'll see  LiquidLearner | 05/16/08
sorry  Khyron | 05/19/08
No system is idiot-proof...  jdickey | 05/20/08
Apple takes the Zen approach to reliability issues  jlafitte | 05/19/08
So fire the network admin!  winski | 05/20/08
It's a cat and mouse game  tikigawd | 05/20/08
BLAME THE USERS?  WATKINS12@... | 05/19/08
Apple can't afford to blame users  labarker | 05/19/08
"Not technically minded"  tikigawd | 05/20/08
Of course, is not MS fault  theo_durcan | 05/16/08
Don't get too smug my friend  klumper | 05/16/08
May I ask you to enlight the community?  Solid Water | 05/16/08
Enlightened  klumper | 05/17/08
Just to enlighten me further....  TtfnJohn | 05/19/08
Enlightened further  klumper | 05/20/08
Simple Rights  SpatsnHats | 06/14/08
I've got two of them in my basement...  jlafitte | 05/19/08
Looks like it's the other way around  Ole Man | 05/19/08
Vista Security Problems Due to Users  gpronger | 05/16/08
Not Lower - Just Different  zenwalker | 05/16/08
can you tell...  Khyron | 05/19/08
Keeping secrets doesn't work  masonwheeler | 05/19/08
MS invented ActiveX and knew it was insecure  ThePrairiePrankster | 05/16/08
Back when ActiveX was created...  DevGuy_z | 05/16/08
Now, instead of running as admin, they disable UAC, which is the same thing  CobraA1 | 05/16/08
ActiveX born 1996 (says wikipedia)  deaf_e_kate | 05/17/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  computergeek289 | 05/16/08
Poor User Behavior?  chuck@... | 05/16/08
Factually incorrect  NonZealot | 05/16/08
A small problem with your logic  bobd08 | 05/21/08
Please, please, please point out how Windows is inherently insecure!  ye | 05/16/08
ActiveX is inherently insecure by design  ThePrairiePrankster | 05/16/08
"Can be" and "inherently designed" to be are two different...  ye | 05/16/08
ActiveX was designed without security in mind  deaf_e_kate | 05/17/08
Can you expand upon this?  ye | 05/17/08
Yes he can  Ole Man | 05/17/08
All or nothing proposition  davidsarmstrong | 05/19/08
"ActiveX" isn't the problem. It's badly written controls that are.  Larry Osterman | 05/18/08
Where have you been?  deaf_e_kate | 05/17/08
I've been around.  ye | 05/17/08
You must not have been around that long.  B.O.F.H. | 05/17/08
Been around far longer than NT 3.51.  ye | 05/17/08
Ok, I'll bite.  davidsarmstrong | 05/19/08
Strawman...  BFD | 05/16/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  greenoil | 05/16/08
road analogy  Hmmm. . . | 05/16/08
Can you demonstrate the MS roads are any worse than the Apple or Linux...  ye | 05/16/08
Yes.  nizuse | 05/16/08
Yes Ye  theo_durcan | 05/16/08
and yes again  theo_durcan | 05/16/08
for now...  tikigawd | 05/20/08
I would....  bobd08 | 05/21/08
and again, Yes  theo_durcan | 05/16/08
Nor is it on Windows. And since I am a Mac user...  ye | 05/16/08
Might want to pull back a bit  klumper | 05/16/08
RE: ...since I am a Mac user...  n0neXn0ne | 05/16/08
Go figure...  ye | 05/16/08
Can't resist  davidsarmstrong | 05/19/08
Great job proving the article's point  Real World | 05/16/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  rag@... | 05/16/08
Of course!  Jeremy W | 05/16/08
Yeah, I see a pattern....  James T. Kirk | 05/16/08
450 million uses of Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool  Jeremy W | 05/16/08
re: 450 million uses  Badgered | 05/16/08
Shhhh.  James T. Kirk | 05/16/08
Strawman...  BFD | 05/16/08
Who's Complacent?  greg@... | 05/16/08
To everyone frothing @ the mouth over this....  JoeMama_z | 05/16/08
LOL  James T. Kirk | 05/16/08
On Zdnet..  Kaiwai | 05/16/08
RE:On Zdnet..  n0neXn0ne | 05/16/08
Who the hell claimed that  Kaiwai | 05/16/08
RE: Who the hell claimed...  n0neXn0ne | 05/16/08
Your analogy is flawed  Ole Man | 05/17/08
Your understanding of the issue is flawed....  JoeMama_z | 05/17/08
Let me make myself perfectly clear  Ole Man | 05/18/08
Let me make myself perfectly clear  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 05/19/08
Is running a command (or whatever) in Wine  Ole Man | 05/19/08
I'm not sure you made yourself clear...  *Gman* | 05/19/08
I'm not sure you know the definition of clear  Ole Man | 05/19/08
RE: To everyone frothing ...  n0neXn0ne | 05/16/08
And how would any of those things  JoeMama_z | 05/16/08
Awfully quiet over here....  JoeMama_z | 05/16/08
Most people don't like to argue with a stump  Ole Man | 05/17/08
Hence the reason I rarely respond to you.  ye | 05/17/08
What made you do it this time?  Ole Man | 05/17/08
Complex solutions to a complex problem.  ye | 05/16/08
@JoeMama_z  n0neXn0ne | 05/16/08
I'd pull back if I were you  klumper | 05/16/08
Linux protects dumb users  Don Collins | 05/16/08
... so does windows  crazymollusc@... | 05/19/08
Not according to Microsoft  Ole Man | 05/19/08
Tis true!  Ole Man | 05/19/08
Awfully quiet over here?  JoeMama_z | 05/16/08
Always is awfully quite  Ole Man | 05/17/08
Well, that's what happens when users disable UAC (nt)  CobraA1 | 05/16/08
There is a saying:  User07734 | 05/17/08
"Linux gets security black eye"  ye | 05/17/08
It's a Debian black eye...  Henry Miller | 05/17/08
LOL! Gotta love you Linux advocates!  ye | 05/17/08
It's nice to be appreciated,  Henry Miller | 05/17/08
To which OP are you referring?  ye | 05/18/08
I'm referring to your comment..  Henry Miller | 05/18/08
@Henry Miller: What about my comment?  ye | 05/18/08
I'm a Debian user  Ole Man | 05/18/08
As it happens....  TtfnJohn | 05/19/08
Yeah and take a look at who it effects..  bobd08 | 05/21/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  richvball44 | 05/17/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  Henry Miller | 05/17/08
Drat... pushed the wrong button! (nt)  Henry Miller | 05/17/08
Who's jumping who's screaming....  JoeMama_z | 05/17/08
The silence is all the answer you need happy  ye | 05/18/08
Waste of Time  X41 | 05/18/08
I'll take it under advisement.  ye | 05/18/08
So says  tikigawd | 05/20/08
Nobody is responding  Ole Man | 05/18/08
thats easy....  JoeMama_z | 05/19/08
Are you actually saying?  Ole Man | 05/19/08
yes i am....  JoeMama_z | 05/20/08
I relent to you lack of coherence  Ole Man | 05/20/08
keep dancing around the questions....  JoeMama_z | 05/20/08
I'll let you have this one  Ole Man | 05/23/08
So says  tikigawd | 05/20/08
Are you a question?  Ole Man | 05/20/08
Users Blame Microsoft For Vista  chessmen | 05/18/08
User blame snake oil salesmen for  Boot_Agnostic | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  darkmoonman | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  sborsher | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  skiextreme2 | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  casachs | 05/19/08
Straight up!  mikeholli | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  bearlyworking | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  pdwarren | 05/19/08
Is Vista unreliability really just the sound of one hand typing? happy  jlafitte | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  Windowns | 05/19/08
Microsoft evangelist?  bsaunders43 | 05/19/08
Microsoft is right!  lukbut_1 | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  toddah | 05/19/08
Ah, yes let's kill the messenger...  mikifinaz1@... | 05/19/08
good quote  reclaim25 | 05/19/08
"thats why it has the largest Market Share"  Ole Man | 05/19/08
waaaaa waaaaaaaa  JoeMama_z | 05/20/08
Don't cry, little one  Ole Man | 05/23/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  reclaim25 | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  reclaim25 | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  C. A. Clark | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  drprodny | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  stanj.miranda@... | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  rgmorris@... | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames the victim  tpatriarche@... | 05/19/08
Here's an idea  bobd08 | 05/19/08
That was just a marketing ploy  Ole Man | 05/19/08
Yeah...  tikigawd | 05/20/08
Surely you can do better than that?  Ole Man | 05/20/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  atari8bit@... | 05/19/08
Wow! 164 posts and nobody gets it!  kingmph@... | 05/19/08
Oh my!  tikigawd | 05/20/08
It's oh so easy to see  Ole Man | 05/20/08
No Problems Here  CharlesEtheridge@... | 05/19/08
Do the math  drutledge@... | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  muffzima@... | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  crazymollusc@... | 05/19/08
"how do you get any software to run?"  Ole Man | 05/19/08
User Error is the Biggest Factor  mrdood_99205@... | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  crazymollusc@... | 05/19/08
Wow! You mean it's finally sinking in?  Ole Man | 05/19/08
Adult Web sites Warez sites = you deserve infection  pcguy777 | 05/19/08
face it.it is users fault  billw1234 | 05/19/08
Microsoft is dead WRONG and dishonest  estonijaan | 05/19/08
Blame the USERS!!!!  swbobcat | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  lukbut_1 | 05/19/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  swbobcat | 05/19/08
Did you make this up?  tomaras@... | 05/20/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/20/08
This is NOT made up  Ole Man | 05/20/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  sboyce@... | 05/20/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  oldsteamer | 05/20/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  winski | 05/20/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  as901 | 05/20/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  rdhalsteatzd | 05/20/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  d.s.williams | 05/21/08
RE: Microsoft blames users for Vista infections  corbinsdad@... | 05/21/08
An honest opinion  void_ivan@... | 05/21/08

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