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catch-22 there in your logic
While I agree that both vendors and users need to take ownership of security, there are always going to be gaps in response time.

Your idea of totally shunting a user by their ISP would be a nice idea if it weren't for one glaring issue. Let's say I'm Joe User, I pop my mail, go offline for a day, boot up and *BAM* infection city. As it turns out my antivirus updates are available only to find out I can't download them because my ISP just cut me off... Or by the same token, let's say I'm on a Linux box with an outdated kernel package and the same thing happens. Hm I can't download source, I can't find a quick package.

I don't feel it is the responsibility of a service provider to necessarily police every device attached to their pipe. At the very most perhaps they could notify the customer with a voice message (but that gets rough for mom and pop ISPs) to let them know they've found virus like activity, but to completely cut off the user from the one resource that could aid them isn't the answer.

In the end I see two main areas that need to be worked on. Product vendors need to create software and hardware that is easy for the end user to patch/maintain, and hopefully is secure enough that critical remote exploits are few and far between. While end users need to be willing to accept more responsibility for "upkeep" of their systems.
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Classic!  Linux User 147560 | 07/28/04
catch-22 there in your logic  acaluya | 07/28/04
you are correct, but....  Monkey_MCSE | 07/28/04
Vunerability-Discovery-Patch-AV lifecycle  The King's Servant | 07/29/04
catch-23 in yours wink  michael-t | 07/28/04
A tad ridiculous  Jeff Spicoli | 07/28/04
You have a valid point but as a counter...  Linux User 147560 | 07/28/04
illogical  Jeff Spicoli | 07/28/04
I agree with Jeff. There, I've said it.  seosamh_z | 07/28/04
Why isp's won't do this:  CobraA1 | 07/28/04
What about trasparent proxing ?  ZXSpectrum | 07/31/04
2 Nits  tim__az | 07/28/04
You are correct  Linux User 147560 | 07/28/04
Too harsh  mjzalewski@... | 07/28/04
Speeding is allowed because of taxes  voska | 07/28/04
Funny, I know an ISP that does that  voska | 07/28/04
The Real Problems  JimSatterfieldW | 07/29/04
This places the blame  RedNek | 08/02/04
Yes!  bluescreen_z | 07/30/04
Forest for the trees  Bluesman Deluxe | 08/18/04
The ONLY way MicroSoft will EVER....  kd5auq | 07/28/04
You are probably right  uno@... | 07/29/04
Nice idea...But....  sma7769 | 07/29/04
And people just accept this?  Chad_z | 07/28/04
Apparently  seosamh_z | 07/28/04
sigh  M_c | 07/28/04
Why should users care?  OldeTimeGeek | 07/28/04
What is a PC  voska | 07/28/04
Outstanding!  wimbo_z | 07/28/04
HEY!!!!!  PA-ITGuy | 07/28/04
It's not that simple  mcunningham | 07/28/04
Why should users care?  DJnRF | 07/28/04
Yea?  wimbo_z | 07/28/04
Why They Accept It  TomGab | 07/28/04
True  uno@... | 07/29/04
Not true  The King's Servant | 07/29/04
XP SP2  jim-cacy@... | 07/28/04
Re: XP SP2  alterego_z | 07/28/04
How does business get done?  wimbo_z | 07/28/04
Everybody  michael-t | 07/28/04
Ok BallmerGates whatcha gonna do for the legacy ware  Squawkbox | 07/28/04
Linux - Because a 386 is a terrible thing to waste.  The King's Servant | 07/29/04
Windows OR Linux ???? that is the question  vbp1 | 07/29/04
To MS: secure your patches  PhilippeV | 07/30/04

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