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No, not the same at all
"I need to update Linux boxes every week"

You do? What distribution do you use that has remotely
exploitable bugs squashed every week. Hint: just because
an update is made available doesn't mean you have to
apply it. Read the announcements.

"If the Linux folks saved up all of their patches for as long
as MS did then you would get a large SP2 updated from
Linux.org."

MS didn't save up their patches for SP2, SP2 will bundle
their public patches so new users don't have the hundreds
of MB of patches for their new windows box that many
would have to download over 56 dialup.

However, SP2 goal is to change windows to tighten its
woeful security model. Whether it is successful we'll see,
but given the stories of delayed MS products it appears to
be a far bigger task than they had imagined.

"Unlike Linux, MS needs to go through a more complete
testing before they release new code because their end
users are not geeks or hackers who are able to fix the code
on their own."

No it is because the fundamental changes required to the
security model, for features that were missing from
windows but have been part of *nix for decades. Even after
SP2 they will still have a much poorer model compared with
*nix.

"Half the time that I have installed Redhat I have needed to
fix code because it DID NOT WORK as installed"

Fix code? or make changes to the config settings?

"Today I am monkeying around with SuSE 9.1 trying to get
it to connect to a Redhat 9 with PopTop 1.3 or a MS
Windows server using PPTP"

I run IPSec and things are just fine with both windows and
*nix clients. Oh, I see you want to use the MS hack
protocol.

"I have never had that problem with Visual Studio, Word or
Excel."

NEVER? You must be joking:-)
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Here's an option  Domb2 | 07/27/04
RE:Here's an option  dnirG_ot_xA_oN | 07/27/04
Not a bad idea. And all software, OS's included,...  bjbrock | 07/27/04
won't work now too many people already have peecees  Squawkbox | 07/27/04
And get a license to leave you house.  voska | 07/27/04
This is the STUPIDIST thing I've read here in months...  BitTwiddler | 07/28/04
Thank you.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/28/04
Stupid is as Stupid does....  Wolfie2K3 | 07/28/04
This is the STUPIDIST thing I've read here in months...  blacksheepxlch1 | 07/29/04
MyDoom  wtasbury@... | 07/29/04
MyDoom  blacksheepxlch1 | 07/29/04
Here is a wiser option  michael-t | 07/27/04
I like your idea the best  Squawkbox | 07/27/04
I think  michael-t | 07/27/04
You've got my vote too.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/27/04
You have to ask your self  agottschald | 07/30/04
the problem with infected email  balsover | 07/27/04
Microsoft's popularity and malware spread  Anton Philidor | 07/27/04
Apple also caters to the IQ challanged crowd  balsover | 07/27/04
Ha, Mac users on average are SMARTER...  ITGuy04 | 07/28/04
If your so so smart...  somethinginnovative | 07/29/04
Blocklists  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/27/04
most infected email that I receive  balsover | 07/27/04
Briefing needed:  michael-t | 07/27/04
you are a little out of touch  balsover | 07/27/04
Speak of being out of touch...  MacCanuck | 07/28/04
Buy a Clue....  ITGuy04 | 07/28/04
1st worm was NOT for Windows  bwklatt@... | 07/29/04
Very out of touch  johnnyu | 07/28/04
Good point I would only add atleast one more thing.  computer_man | 07/27/04
OK I'm no rocket scientist...  Richard Flude | 07/27/04
Perhaps for the same reason...  balsover | 07/27/04
Enjoy your prison  Sunny Jalolly | 07/27/04
No, not the same at all  Richard Flude | 07/27/04
What's wrong with improving?  somethinginnovative | 07/29/04
Rocket scientist  uno@... | 07/29/04
Oops  uno@... | 07/29/04
Ya damned Skippy!  BitTwiddler | 07/28/04
Yeah, Let's Have More Regulation!!!  gsquared | 07/29/04
What if the ISP's  balsover | 07/27/04
OOOBIE DOOBIE would you want to be that ISP's tech support  Squawkbox | 07/27/04
If people were told  balsover | 07/27/04
Good one Bombay......I like that  Squawkbox | 07/27/04
One more thing that works good  computer_man | 07/27/04
Several do  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/27/04
You could position it as a service.  enduser_z | 07/27/04
The capitalistic way ..will save you .....not  george@... | 07/29/04
ISP do pull the plug....  middle of nowhere | 07/27/04
Dang, I need to train my fingers to hit the proper keys!!!  middle of nowhere | 07/27/04
my take...  ryusen | 07/27/04
your take ...  PJfromOttawa | 07/28/04
at last a smart person .  george@... | 07/29/04
"I see the future...booooooo"  george@... | 07/29/04
More reasons to NOT USE WINDOWS  ITGuy04 | 07/27/04
The sky is falling, the sky is falling...  Confused by religion | 07/27/04
You'd never know if you were hacked  voska | 07/27/04
As it happens -  Confused by religion | 07/27/04
Computers to work for people!  leandro_z | 07/28/04
Heheheheh!!!  tgrady | 07/29/04
And you know that...how?  Chad_z | 07/27/04
Yes, it took me time...  Confused by religion | 07/28/04
3 years running, no single intrusion  garci | 07/29/04
Nobody has time for looking at the sky - they're all patching  whisperycat | 07/27/04
Patching  IT Scion | 07/29/04
Patch up  Amalia | 07/29/04
You need to comprehend what I posted.  IT Scion | 08/02/04
I guess  michael-t | 07/27/04
or....  computer_man | 07/27/04
See my response above.  Confused by religion | 07/27/04
Hmm I'm surprise at the ammount of people complaining about infections.  computer_man | 07/27/04
Jump to conclusions much?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/27/04
Better Chicken Little than an Ostrich.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/27/04
I cnose a Mac and  Confused by religion | 07/27/04
cnose?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/28/04
HEHE - Good one!  Confused by religion | 07/28/04
Been in IT VERY Long  ITGuy04 | 07/28/04
But That's Not What Sweaty Ballmer Tells Us  claytonmuhler | 07/27/04
And why would he lie?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/27/04
Sorry, not convinced!  Big Steve_z | 07/28/04
Uses of Windows  gsquared | 07/29/04
Sure, everybody switch to...  tgrady | 07/29/04
Not quite true  uno@... | 07/29/04
OS Virus Protection = AntiTrust legislation  somethinginnovative | 07/29/04
You don't get it  lengua99 | 07/30/04
No to Windows??  IT Scion | 07/29/04
Also  IT Scion | 07/29/04
Standard Stories of Misery  michael-t | 07/27/04
Best Windows Machine - Unplugged  Chad_z | 07/27/04
No one owns this FREEdom OS..!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 07/27/04
Infected machines need to be stopped  Xanth_z | 07/27/04
I am getting  Linux User 147560 | 07/27/04
OMG!  MDDM_z | 07/29/04
All vendors have bugs, but sheer number of MS bugs is GROSS NEGLIGENCE !!!  Plain Logic | 07/27/04
Hold yourself responsible.  IT Scion | 07/29/04
Six of one  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/27/04
Again, they need to make sure everybody knows this is a Microsoft problem.  DonnieBoy | 07/27/04
only way to fix this is for ms to give users  V Sanders | 07/28/04
and it should be easy to remove  V Sanders | 07/28/04
MyDoom is your Doom  peterdee_z | 07/28/04
IT admins have the IP  jdubuke | 07/28/04
MyBaldurGate to take a whack at Apple  FilledOut | 07/28/04
Symptoms not Diseases  Techscan | 07/28/04
Flaws  IT Scion | 08/02/04
MY DOOM  kittyj57 | 07/29/04
Plain stupid  MDDM_z | 07/29/04
stupid  Amalia | 07/29/04
must be from USA  Cobrajet500 | 07/29/04
How dare I?  MDDM_z | 07/30/04
Windoze and IE  bhattaci | 07/30/04

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