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Flaws In MS: Hands up all those programmers out there that have ever written a buffer routine, now put down your hands if you didn't write the routine for the last project that needed a buffer... Not many left, yes, the truth is you used a library routine or you may not even knew you were using it if you work for MS.

For so many buffer overflows in so many software packages this has to be the case with MS, it's not that they keep writing the same code wrong, someone in the beginning wrote it wrong and no one has fixed it. Which means it's an organisation thing. No one fixes it properly because it takes time and resources so it remains probably now duplicated into so many libraraies on so many systems MS has lost track. Time and resources cost money and to find all of those needles in the giant MS haystack would cost lots of money. Of course this is no real object to Open Source, everyone contributes there time for the common good. This is what really annoys MS about OSS it costs them but OSS programmers feel good about fixing the problem and you can't beat "the feel good" factor with any kind of money.

It seems to me looking from the outside that it is yet another case of an organization having grown too fast trying to do too may things in an attempt to overwhelm their compettitors and in the process stored up all kinds of horrors for them selves.

Given time I'm sure windows could be made into a very reliable desktop system, I'm not so sure that IE will ever be made into anything near reliable or safe, in any reasonable amount of time.

Of course time and money wait for no man.; Posted by: agottschald Posted on: 07/07/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Is this new? Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04

Of course it's new... new day, new flaw..! Xunil_Sierutuf | 07/07/04

Mozilla is great, love tabbed browsing FilledOut | 07/07/04

I don't like tabbed browsing FirstNLastN | 07/07/04

Done that... didn't like it. el1jones | 07/07/04

Opera is another choice rbochan | 07/07/04

Me neither.. d_jedi | 07/07/04

Opera can do that randomletter | 07/08/04

Poof! Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/07/04

I love tabbed browsing carmanintx | 07/07/04

Don't use it then. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/07/04

Terrorist Researchers dend | 07/07/04

8.0 Martin Marvinski | 07/07/04

tabbrowser extension dend | 07/07/04

Why? Linux User 147560 | 07/07/04

Umm... Martin Marvinski | 07/07/04

MS is the energizer bunny of flaws! Xunil_Sierutuf | 07/07/04

This is why... Michael Kelly | 07/07/04

Flaws fixed faster Linux User 147560 | 07/07/04

Flaws In MS agottschald | 07/07/04

Why not just release SP2 early? soma@... | 07/07/04

No it's not better Linux User 147560 | 07/07/04

Umm... can it get any worse? Xunil_Sierutuf | 07/07/04

True, why break a tradition now.. Xunil_Sierutuf | 07/07/04

Beta testing... Martin Marvinski | 07/07/04

Everyone is expecting SP2... bjbrock | 07/07/04

Joe and Jane internet user rbochan | 07/07/04

I believe you are quite right. agottschald | 07/07/04

Another layer of unsecure computers will be created & unaddressed Squawkbox | 07/07/04

why not just do a better job of educating Joe and Jane? ryusen | 07/07/04

The Drum Roll Is Getting Stronger - CLASS ACTION CLASS ACTION RobertoSalazar | 07/07/04

Bring on the common sense instead SublimeDaze | 07/07/04

There is nothing sensical about... bjbrock | 07/07/04

The problem with class action lawsuits ryusen | 07/07/04

The problem with class action lawsuits richdave | 07/07/04

chicken or egg? ryusen | 07/07/04

Hmm.. d_jedi | 07/07/04

Lawsuit might be baseless Allstar_z | 07/10/04

Switching Would Be Stupid.... chrislovesdana | 07/07/04

Hey, can I get some of that... Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04

I think that "stuff"... bjbrock | 07/07/04

After 10 years... bjbrock | 07/07/04

Ugh, I can'e believe how wrong people are jsilve1 | 07/07/04

Awww what is a few years amongst friends? Squawkbox | 07/07/04

You are being overly critical SilentTygur | 07/07/04

the problem eLurker | 07/07/04

Mozilla's been around longer OhMyGosh | 07/07/04

actually... ryusen | 07/07/04

You're right, but... Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/07/04

good point but... ryusen | 07/07/04

NOT switching would be stupid jsilve1 | 07/07/04

Reliability is FAR more important than innovation martyj | 07/07/04

LOL Linux User 147560 | 07/07/04

2 apps SC-man | 07/07/04

Really cdjmattmiller@... | 07/07/04

debugging rbochan | 07/07/04

Again: You don't know what you're talking about escoles@... | 07/07/04

Yes, but look at the facts... riff7raff | 07/07/04

Yes, but look at the facts... richdave | 07/07/04

Is that you, Mike? Daisy Fontana | 07/07/04

I just get some ID10+ error... php_developer | 07/07/04

Wanna be Mike Cox bchesmer | 07/07/04

Switch browsers -yes! mhoyle | 07/08/04

Business as usual tic swayback | 07/07/04

Re: Business as usual issthatso | 07/07/04

i think you are holding apple in too high a light... ryusen | 07/07/04

You're right. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/07/04

you missed my point... ryusen | 07/08/04

SP2 won't fix a basic design flaw issthatso | 07/07/04

If it did fix XP's problems what about the legacy ware out there? Squawkbox | 07/07/04

Every move by MS just opens more holes! George Mitchell | 07/07/04

MS wasn't allowed to fix certain "security holes" toomuchgreeatea@... | 07/07/04

Microsoft : The hackers target of choice riff7raff | 07/07/04

Hmmm Spoon Jabber | 07/07/04

MS products are still easier to use Eggs Ackley_z | 07/07/04

Than *what*?! escoles@... | 07/07/04

...I don't think so! settantta | 07/07/04

RTFP Eggs Ackley_z | 07/08/04

Switching Browsers tgrkss | 07/07/04

Aww c'mon - think of something more stupid Eggs Ackley_z | 07/07/04

If this is Mike Cox, then you get 1.5 score (NT) Judas I. | 07/07/04

Just to prove it, anecdotally ... Eggs Ackley_z | 07/07/04

Re: Switching browsers and Mozilla rkelleher_1 | 07/07/04

Sorry, man, you don't know what you're talking about. escoles@... | 07/08/04

Ya right... bchesmer | 07/07/04

At first I thought you were skeptic tank | 07/07/04

more is not alway the right reason. agottschald | 07/08/04

Alright, one more time: IE IS FUNDAMENTALLY INSECURE escoles@... | 07/08/04

The answer is don't use IE woody_z | 07/07/04

BINGO Partisan | 07/08/04

Microsoft is MACRO INCOMPETENT! martyj | 07/07/04

Six year-old child needed andy88488 | 07/07/04

which websites? toadlife | 07/07/04

Incompatible Websites andy88488 | 07/08/04

More please zen_dogen | 07/08/04

Then use IE for those sites. Next? escoles@... | 07/08/04

If.... Monkey_MCSE | 07/07/04

The M$ way DarthRidiculous | 07/07/04

Utopian Thinking andy88488 | 07/08/04

A fully-compatible emulation of IE Me_too | 07/07/04

Maybe not... Allstar_z | 07/10/04

Re: Maybe not... Me_too | 07/11/04

Fully Compatible Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/07/04

Internet Explorer tazwalker@... | 07/07/04

IE Favorites Eggs Ackley_z | 07/07/04

Exactly Monkey_MCSE | 07/07/04

Microsoft recommends what? Me_too | 07/07/04

"They should have seen this one coming." Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/07/04

Only a Crackhead would switch at this point. chrislovesdana | 07/07/04

I think I may have found the true definition of Idiot... Monkey_MCSE | 07/07/04

I sure won't switch TWRX | 07/07/04

You finally got one right! IT_User | 07/07/04

Thank you... Partisan | 07/08/04

Enterprise Analyst Expatriate US Geek | 07/07/04

IE is still the main browser Enterprise Analyst. | 07/07/04

By all means, keep using it, please. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 07/07/04

Only if we were so lucky! Linux User 147560 | 07/07/04

IE is the main browser ... ONLY because MS ILLEGALLY tied it to the OS. Plain Logic | 07/07/04

Main browser for what? IT_User | 07/07/04

You left out.... Partisan | 07/08/04

Not as good as your usual posts Expatriate US Geek | 07/08/04

IE - A security hole pretending to be an app wonderbored | 07/07/04

CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT for GROSS NEGLIGENCE !!! Plain Logic | 07/07/04

The Final Solution. agottschald | 07/07/04

of course its never the hackers fault... zijiang | 07/07/04

Who said it cleared them? IT_User | 07/07/04

Wake up agottschald | 07/07/04

Computer Emergency Response Team, jgoodman_z | 07/08/04

What's new? tslocum7 | 07/08/04

FireFox 0.9 ROCKS...IE SUCKS!!! itanalyst | 07/08/04

May I have the envelope please? Squawkbox | 07/09/04

Even Slate recommends FireFox/Mozilla. . . boomslang_z | 07/09/04

Blame the web developers... Allstar_z | 07/10/04

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