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Our windows boxes have SP2 installed, AV software, Windows firewall and our router firewall turned on. Still, they get compromised somehow. For those of you who know so much (I am clearly not worthy to be is such great company), you certainly know that HTTP is a protocol which is passed through via NAT so you can surf the web. If you have IE running and are so wonderfully and excellently smart as you are and you allow ActiveX, then you've kindof defeated at least the purpose of the firewall. The AV software will only find viruses it knows about. But, sheesh, listen to me. You already know that and I am so clueless.
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Pity that...  kriskl | 11/13/07
i doubt it  dansen926 | 11/13/07
Well, Gee lets see  Crestview | 11/14/07
Are you for real?  will.hunt.007@... | 12/26/07
Reeks of trying to promote Vista  PI_z | 11/15/07
I went Gnu/Linux Ubuntu instead  Free-BooteR | 11/15/07
Then obviously you have missed the whole point.  GuidingLight | 11/15/07
That would be the cover story of choice but who Knows! - NT  raycote | 11/15/07
Windows has bulletproof security ...  fr0thy | 11/16/07
Last Hurrah?  clivebrookes@... | 11/19/07
Reeks of trying to promote Vista  ronw1@... | 11/28/07
Vista or...  mscir@... | 12/08/07
The reason they tried SP1 unpatched...  Boomslang | 12/17/07
Hack Vista  ceh4702 | 01/03/08
Service Pack 1 ?  magcomment | 11/13/07
I think they are trying to see that the majority of PCs are setup like this  Been_Done_Before | 11/13/07
i disagree...  brokndodge@... | 11/13/07
WIFI Bandits  ceh4702 | 01/03/08
Very poor demo? Not as bad as ...  netuzer | 11/13/07
FUD  ajv123 | 11/16/07
McRosoft security video  fr0thy | 11/16/07
But of course...  Qbt | 11/13/07
Clueless?  davidsarmstrong | 11/13/07
Look internally for your hacker.  dbisse@... | 11/14/07
url?  mscir@... | 12/08/07
url?  Hyperion1961@... | 01/04/08
As one of your so-called "Clueless Ones"....  drprod@... | 11/14/07
BY JOVE, SOMEONE FINALLY GOT IT!!!  mac0252 | 11/15/07
Some people can't read.  Rndmacts | 11/16/07
Sure  ajv123 | 11/16/07
I agree  jtew@... | 12/18/07
All your systems belong to ... apparently anyone!  nomoremicrosoft | 11/13/07
See George's post below (nt)  ShadeTree | 11/13/07
re: All your systems  Badgered | 11/13/07
Any unpatched system is worthless.  tracy anne | 11/15/07
Evidently you don't know much about Windows  timmeh64 | 11/14/07
Unpatched  tracy anne | 11/15/07
You should actually READ the story  Crestview | 11/14/07
No he probably loves his dog  fr0thy | 11/16/07
If you knew my dog...  davagain | 11/28/07
Your comment  jtew@... | 12/18/07
Not exactly a fair test  Chad_z | 11/13/07
that's why you gotta be...  dansen926 | 11/13/07
Indeed  tracy anne | 11/15/07
Crying all the way  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/13/07
Dood...  dracolich_prgrm | 11/13/07
Amen, Amen, Amen.  Tubaplayr | 11/14/07
Disgruntled employees  jtew@... | 12/18/07
Exactly.... wrong  Crestview | 11/14/07
Subtlety must be foreign to you...  Rbust0 | 11/15/07
which part of this is a news to anybody?  vgrig | 11/13/07
Publicity Stunt, you bet  xrxca | 11/13/07
huh... no one in my neighborhood seems to know it...  brokndodge@... | 11/13/07
Fully patched Mac hacked this year  georgeou | 11/13/07
Not news, it's history  magcomment | 11/13/07
Yes, but the hole was plugged and there are no active exploits...  olePigeon | 11/13/07
olePigeon how do you know that real hacker don't tell everything  SO.CAL Guy | 11/13/07
don't be too sure of yourself!  dansen926 | 11/13/07
Curious how you equate that to news?  ju1ce | 11/13/07
Bad Post George  TheBoyBailey | 11/13/07
Ou is "The New Dvorak"!  dropzone@... | 11/14/07
Becauuuuse, it's about as much "news"  James T. Kirk | 11/13/07
After they 'relaxed the rules'  RealNonZealot | 11/13/07
How do you think most exploits come through?  georgeou | 11/13/07
haha  iMouse | 11/13/07
IF you're not an Apple Fanboy...  1stcyberian | 11/15/07
Go easy on M$ fanbois like Ou...  comp_indiana | 12/06/07
Windows XP systems, firewall quandries . . .  Computer_User_1024 | 11/13/07
Building awareness  HooNoze | 11/13/07
Even when hiring experts..  ju1ce | 11/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  Loverock Davidson | 11/13/07
Flawed Article and Flawed Research?  ju1ce | 11/13/07
Yes  Loverock Davidson | 11/13/07
Maybe true for Windows ...  davidsarmstrong | 11/13/07
And true for other OS's  Loverock Davidson | 11/13/07
thats what firewalls on the router are for!!!(NT)  brokndodge@... | 11/14/07
Funny  davidsarmstrong | 11/14/07
TElnet  davidsarmstrong | 11/14/07
No  putt1ck | 11/14/07
LOL!  thx-1138_@... | 11/15/07
I can't believe I'm defending MS!  davagain | 11/28/07
Telnet in Linux  Computer_User_1024 | 11/14/07
Further more re: Linux ports. . .  Computer_User_1024 | 11/14/07
Obviously knows nothing about Linux  tracy anne | 11/15/07
hacking  voska | 11/13/07
You have not!  ShadeTree | 11/13/07
huh?  voska | 11/13/07
Were you in the room when it happened?  mdemuth | 11/13/07
I've done it myself, it's simple  voska | 11/13/07
Just to point out  voska | 11/13/07
VMware appliance  johnf76@... | 11/13/07
i've done it too!  dansen926 | 11/13/07
Ours were hacked  davidsarmstrong | 11/13/07
Netcat The Swiss Army Knife Of Hacking  chessmen | 11/14/07
Yea U think so  Krazyken39 | 11/14/07
People like you  Crestview | 11/14/07
And in another demo...  RocketEater | 11/13/07
Yeah, what he said!...  Media-Ted@... | 11/14/07
Reverse power surge  THEE WOLF | 11/13/07
Err...  dracolich_prgrm | 11/13/07
shouldn't be too hard...  brokndodge@... | 11/14/07
Reverse power surge - how to get???  serioussam2x4@... | 12/30/07
Pity they didn't try an OS from the last 5 years  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/13/07
Astonishing though it is...  bmerc | 11/13/07
the point is ...  brokndodge@... | 11/14/07
Fools abound, that is true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Wouldn't matter  voska | 11/13/07
Interesting  saggy | 11/14/07
Not new OS but used OS  sysop-dr | 11/13/07
Has nothing to do with Vista  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Or ...  thx-1138_@... | 11/14/07
"hourse whipped"?  nizuse | 11/19/07
How to Secure Ubuntu7.10  mscir@... | 12/08/07
Yep  thx-1138_@... | 11/15/07
Disagree on one point  CobraA1 | 11/28/07
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 11/13/07
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 11/14/07
Wow, shocking... NOT!  Larsix | 11/13/07
Fighting the last war  tigerg2002us@... | 11/13/07
Requiring Antivirus...  TucsonGuy | 11/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  Basel 101 | 11/13/07
RE: This is not news :P  dansen926 | 11/13/07
Not very useful info  davidr69 | 11/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  Don't Ask Me | 11/13/07
no!!!!! i never wanted to be a slave!  dansen926 | 11/13/07
Newly installed OS  mcaprio_z | 11/13/07
Plan ahead  TucsonGuy | 11/13/07
No Firewal!?!?!?!?!  Heatlesssun1 | 11/13/07
With or Without, doesn't matter  davidsarmstrong | 11/13/07
Well...  dracolich_prgrm | 11/13/07
Sounds to me..  3D0G | 11/14/07
Admin  davidsarmstrong | 11/15/07
So in other words...  3D0G | 11/15/07
So why only the Windows Boxes?  davidsarmstrong | 11/21/07
Users don't run as root in Linux.  CobraA1 | 11/28/07
Yes and no  CobraA1 | 11/28/07
Typical when you run as Root or Administrator...  Boomslang | 12/17/07
Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  morph000 | 11/13/07
Sussed  Dr.C | 11/14/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  Farrell.McGovern | 11/13/07
Wowing the idiots with the phrase SCRIPT KIDDIES  billjacobus1 | 11/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  eagleau2003@... | 11/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  excrementologist@... | 11/13/07
PDF  ceh4702 | 11/13/07
Duh!  fr0thy | 11/16/07
LOL  kokuryu | 11/13/07
Wireless...with ABSOLUTELY NO protection confused .......  btljooz | 11/13/07
Huh?  dracolich_prgrm | 11/13/07
If you REALLY have to ask  btljooz | 11/14/07
re: wireless with no protection...  Computer_User_1024 | 11/14/07
That's precisely WHY  btljooz | 11/14/07
Yes SP1  hisfool@... | 11/13/07
XP SP1  Computer_User_1024 | 11/14/07
Simple solution to Granny's ignorance:  btljooz | 11/14/07
re: "Granny's Ignorance"  Computer_User_1024 | 11/14/07
Are you talking about  btljooz | 11/15/07
The "Granny"  Computer_User_1024 | 11/28/07
Paranoia??? I'd rather be paranoid than  btljooz | 11/29/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  walkerjian@... | 11/13/07
Solution to patching off-line  Computer_User_1024 | 11/28/07
SP1 still alive and well...  jrf2027@... | 11/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  junkmail@... | 11/13/07
Someone has to reach the old ?pre ADSL? crippled machines.  alvinfinch@... | 11/13/07
FUD again  tonymcs@... | 11/13/07
That was the point I tried to make above happy  btljooz | 11/14/07
...  dimonWar | 11/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  texascryptid@... | 11/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  jackofalltradesmasterofnone | 11/13/07
XP-Intrusions  jackofalltradesmasterofnone | 11/13/07
Non issue? Disagree  TG2 | 11/13/07
What is this?  John Musbach | 11/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  fourijm@... | 11/13/07
What a good deal of Windows XP users don't realize . .  Computer_User_1024 | 11/13/07
If you think THAT is bad, what do you think of this confused  btljooz | 11/14/07
re: NSA KEY  Computer_User_1024 | 11/14/07
Are you really surprised?  mscir@... | 12/08/07
No. ...True. Highly Likely. No. N/T.  btljooz | 12/28/07
Wireless networks  Computer_User_1024 | 11/14/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  kmashraf | 11/14/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  atari8bit@... | 11/14/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  Nannuu | 11/14/07
Besides being informative  Boot_Agnostic | 11/14/07
Again ZDnet  Krazyken39 | 11/14/07
This is news?  DCMann | 11/14/07
Encouraging Or Frightening  Sickthing | 11/14/07
Microsoft execs call XP Hack a great path to Vista!  Timpraetor | 11/14/07
Can't WEP keys be cracked in just a few minutes now?  mscir@... | 12/08/07
Extremely Good point!!! Thank you. n/t  btljooz | 12/28/07
Not as unlikely as you think...  Commochief | 11/14/07
This all depends on your setup  erniem1970@... | 11/14/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  jackduffie | 11/14/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  miles2go_2000@... | 11/14/07
SERVICE PACK 1? Thats OLD !!!  JABBER_WOLF | 11/14/07
Scared to Death, yeah right  gwbs4@... | 11/14/07
Just a Designed Ploy to sell Vista  support@... | 11/14/07
I agree this is a problem.  support@... | 11/14/07
Frightening  brichter | 11/14/07
Ok I admit...  dbisse@... | 11/14/07
Vista to the rescue!  jscarey | 11/14/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  catseverywhere@... | 11/14/07
Gut Reaction  TSEG72351@... | 11/15/07
Handicapped PC  Axotls | 11/15/07
Exactly!  thx-1138_@... | 11/15/07
RE: ROFL  onedavester@... | 11/15/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  Sheeva | 11/15/07
You must have some very old apps  willpd13 | 11/16/07
Wrong  Sheeva | 12/06/07
MS Calls Security Holes Frightening!!!!!!  cam@... | 11/15/07
A burn  Louis.Ross@... | 11/16/07
I think you are missing the big picture!  Patrick_m | 11/15/07
Microsoft is Scary  amahanna | 11/15/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  echodelta@... | 11/15/07
The real revelation  rotvic | 11/15/07
Velly Intelesting  vvbs@... | 11/15/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  Vampyrick | 11/15/07
Thanks for mentioning Clean Access  mscir@... | 12/08/07
Hacking an unpatched system with no anti-virus,firewall, etc....WHAT!!!!!!  mikemc3@... | 11/15/07
Currently relevant  clb1017 | 11/15/07
Article Misnamed  thx-1138_@... | 11/15/07
Worthless Test!  XweAponX | 11/16/07
Deserves!!  wez@... | 11/18/07
My thoughts exactly*  hidalgod@... | 11/16/07
What does this say about the quality of MS software?  FlatAffect | 11/20/07
Never connect to unsecured wireless  CobraA1 | 11/28/07
I agree  Computer_User_1024 | 11/28/07
I've been using AVG and Spybot S&D.  CobraA1 | 11/28/07
Router recommendation?  mscir@... | 12/08/07
Simple answer:  btljooz | 12/28/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  DWFRIEND@... | 11/28/07
reads a lot  merc2dogs` | 11/28/07
Think first then speak  denbid@... | 11/28/07
Nice Post  mscir@... | 12/08/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  rinie@... | 11/28/07
M$ ecex frightened? I'm frightened  waldoalvarez00@... | 12/04/07
They don't pay us enough to know those things  Chiatzu | 12/13/07
Ummmmm ....  koala1515 | 12/13/07
That is a funny story  Haas | 12/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  ivan.massey@... | 12/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  phatkat | 12/13/07
Not really PhatKat  XweAponX | 12/13/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  ZenaPrincess | 12/27/07
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  itibble@... | 01/03/08
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  c4kays@... | 01/03/08
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  kmumme | 01/03/08
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  atari8bit@... | 01/07/08
RE: Microsoft exec calls XP hack 'frightening'  quark@... | 01/17/08

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