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You really need to set aside your rambling, tangential responses and stick to the issues. Anyway, the question of AA-missles is not relevant, so I will address the cameras.

I challenge you to reveal for me the EXACT location of even one of those cameras.

I do not have the expertise to do that. A well-funded terrorist organization would. Such determination is not impossible, but it is a skill I have not had reason to acquire. Besides, the EXACT lcoation that you demand is not needed. A field of vision is what's needed.

Besides, you have yet to prove that these cameras even exist. But let's suppose they do. I worked at Fort Detrick in Maryland. They do a lot of bioresearch, and even have a building that many on the campus called the "freaky $#^&" building. The policy there with regard to releasing information was ALWAYS, no matter what, to give as little as possible. So, the Pentagon response is not surprising to anyone that has experience in sensitive military sites.

Common sense dictates that a MUCH LARGER hole would have been left by the boeing.

Unless you happen to be able to provide your credentials as a licensed structural engineer and you have the Pentagon blueprints, I'll go ahead and disregard your common sense. I would point out that it is possible to secure buildings against plane attack. According to the Discovery Channel (take it for what it's worth) that is precisely what happened.

If the federal government said green E.T.s landed in Ohio the other day, I guees you'd readily believe that too?

Wow, was that ever irrelevant. This isn't a matter of the government making ludicrous claims. It's a matter of you accusing the President of the United States of mass murder and then providing no backing for it. You see, you are leveling that accusation, yet your backing consists of the following logical fallacies:

1) He has much to gain.
2) "There must be..."
3) Common sense dictates...
4) Anyone that disagrees must be gullible.

You accuse the President of mass murder, yet this is the evidence you show? You have yet to build a reasonable case for why your theory is correct. Let me offer a more plausible idea:

1) Osama became murderously angry about his country's relations with the US.
2) Osama attacked the United States multiple times in multiple locations.
3) Bush responded on the basis of his best guess from what we now know to be faulty intelligence and took out Saddam.
4) Frothing-at-the-mouth raging anti-Bushite dreams fail to materialize as gas prices continue to rise in the US, despite the massive amount of oil that we are ostensibly stealing.

That seems more plausible. I believe I shall now ignore you. I have given you one opportunity after another to provide actual evidence-- real, admissible, conclusive proof-- rather than a string of tenuous inferences. You have steadfastly refused to do so. So, rather than wasting any more time on your unfounded, patently ridiculous theory, I will go and learn more about the new Cisco routers. Go talk to the French... they'll be much more accepting of anti-Bush drivel.
Posted by: Martin Marvinski   Posted on: 06/17/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Federal government is a *potential* abuser.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/16/04
Dark, unlit alleys are havens for terrorists, too  Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/16/04
Yep, so are mirrors.  mdielmann | 06/16/04
War on terror a complete sham!  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Comedy gold!!!  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
You think it;s false merely because it sounds so extreme?  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Step by step...  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
Cats and Bird cages........  middle of nowhere | 06/16/04
Send me one also.....  middle of nowhere | 06/16/04
Get your facts straight  jurasek@... | 06/16/04
Hey, no logic here, please!  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
I couldn't find the Boeing..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/16/04
That's because there wasn't one  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Don't know much about the oil industry do you  voska | 06/16/04
Oil Industry.......  middle of nowhere | 06/16/04
What??  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
I believe it was 1988 not 1998  voska | 06/16/04
Want the facts?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/16/04
You want photos?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/16/04
Wow  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Again, evidence?  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
WHAT?!  Jeff Spicoli | 06/17/04
Re:  Martin Marvinski | 06/17/04
CMON REALLY  kashman | 10/01/04
Another excuse to maintain the status quo  AbsolutelyNot | 06/16/04
So long..  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Prove it!!!  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
whats next?  +-Chris-+ | 06/16/04
nope they want wireless web based camera's  V Sanders | 06/18/04
feds will look for any reason to track us  V Sanders | 06/16/04
dow drug dealers they could probably monitor  V Sanders | 06/16/04
the bits would laugh  bthomasmo@... | 06/16/04

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