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"There are many areas that you are incorrect on:
* There is a video tape of the plane crashing into the Pentagon"


Where? And if that's the case, why hasn't it been shown more?

" It is no secret that GWB's dad is affiliated with the Carlyle Group. It is an investment fund, like thousands of others out there."

Yeah, and what do you think the investments are for..ice cream??

"But since the start of the "war on terrorism", the firm - unofficially valued at $3.5bn - has taken on an added significance. Carlyle has become the thread which indirectly links American military policy in Afghanistan to the personal financial fortunes of its celebrity employees, not least the current president's father. And, until earlier this month, Carlyle provided another curious link to the Afghan crisis: among the firm's multi-million-dollar investors were members of the family of Osama bin Laden."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,583869,00.html

Gee, Carlyle invests big in defense, and we just happening to be committing war crimes right now! No coincidence of course..if you're braindead.

"Note that Al Gore is chairman of an investment fund in Los Angeles, but I didn't see you complain about that."

Al Gore is a loser, and no, I am not a Democrat. I voted for Bush in 2000. Is this country becoming so simple-minded that one is not allowed to voice criticism over something, even if at one time one supported what one is now criticizing??

" No American oil company has been awarded a contract in Iraq."

Well, Halliburton may not be an oil company, but you'd have to be retarded to not see the connection between Dick Cheney being VP and Halliburton getting a no-bid contract in Iraq. Dick Cheney STILL works for Halliburton for Christ's sake! Might he take a little self-interest in their future? And what makes you think that prices will be lower for oil just because the Bush administration has stolen Iraq's oil? You do know that worldwide oil prices are carefully fixed, don't you? Do you really think that anything would change that?

" If the USA wanted to invade a country just to get their oil, we would have gone after Venezuala. It is closer, and almost as anti-American as Iraq's government was."

Many things not plausible with that. How would you sell a war against Venezuela to the American public? Do you really think they could have gotten everyone (even as utterly retarded as the American public is) to believe that Venezuela was some kind of haven or collaborator for Al Qaeda? And anti-American sentiment has NOTHING to do with anything. There are TONS of governments all over that do not like the US. Moreover, do you think the US really cares who hates us? Finally, Saddam was an easy villain to sell the public. We all know who he is and that he's a very very bad man. Plus, you need to consider all the other arab countries surrounding Iraq that are all oil havens (which the republicans were of course going to go after if Iraq didn't go so poorly).

" The reason Bin Laden has not come after the USA in the last couple of years is that we finally have him on the run.."

Really? Where? Who/what has been dispatched? Are you merely repeating the sorry propaganda that the Nazi Bush administration has commanded to you? All I see is 12 troops in Afghanistan half-heartedly looking under some rocks and pebbles. And how would putting Osama "on the run" stop attacks? Was he one of the arabs that supposedly flew the planes into the WTC? How does stopping him stop the countless thousands of others dying to harm or kill us? You can't really believe that US authorities are stopping everything (while the country remains virtually wide open!). How come no forests are being burned down, no hotels/restaurants/bars/malls are being blown up, no guys parading through the streets with bombs and machine guns randomly killing people? Because it is all not real!

" If Bin Laden was working for the USA until 1998 (which he was not, the relationship with him and CIA ended after the Afghan-Soviet war), than that was done on Clinton's watch, not GWB's."

Clinton was another piece of trash. But I guess him being culpable mysteriously removes all blame from Bush, right? Strange "logic" there..

"Lastly, I didn't see where you addressed the Justice Dept's concern about VOIP tramsissions being untrackable."

That's because if you could decipher ANYTHING, I was trying to show the absurdity of the government not taking catching bin Laden seriously (if we are to assume that he is in fact responsible for 9/11) and yet thinking that untappable VOIP is somehow going to precipitate some massive terrorist fallout. All the government's efforts are in controlling/tracking Americans, and not any terrorists. The Iraq war is such ultimate proof that there is no war on terror. For if we REALLY were being regularly terrorized, we definitely would not be able to use up all our financial/military resources imperializing a country that has nothing to do with terrorism against America..
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Federal government is a *potential* abuser.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/16/04
Dark, unlit alleys are havens for terrorists, too  Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/16/04
Yep, so are mirrors.  mdielmann | 06/16/04
War on terror a complete sham!  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Comedy gold!!!  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
You think it;s false merely because it sounds so extreme?  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Step by step...  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
Cats and Bird cages........  middle of nowhere | 06/16/04
Send me one also.....  middle of nowhere | 06/16/04
Get your facts straight  jurasek@... | 06/16/04
Hey, no logic here, please!  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
I couldn't find the Boeing..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/16/04
That's because there wasn't one  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Don't know much about the oil industry do you  voska | 06/16/04
Oil Industry.......  middle of nowhere | 06/16/04
What??  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
I believe it was 1988 not 1998  voska | 06/16/04
Want the facts?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/16/04
You want photos?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/16/04
Wow  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Again, evidence?  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
WHAT?!  Jeff Spicoli | 06/17/04
Re:  Martin Marvinski | 06/17/04
CMON REALLY  kashman | 10/01/04
Another excuse to maintain the status quo  AbsolutelyNot | 06/16/04
So long..  Jeff Spicoli | 06/16/04
Prove it!!!  Martin Marvinski | 06/16/04
whats next?  +-Chris-+ | 06/16/04
nope they want wireless web based camera's  V Sanders | 06/18/04
feds will look for any reason to track us  V Sanders | 06/16/04
dow drug dealers they could probably monitor  V Sanders | 06/16/04
the bits would laugh  bthomasmo@... | 06/16/04

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