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MS reacts to attack vectors, not fixes design flaws: Its like the little boy with his finger in the dike.

He has two choices, recruit all of the children in the country to stuff up the ever increasing numbers of holes due to the flawed design and implementation of the dike; when the numbers of holes is greater than the numbers of kids we can only hope the boy had the foresight to convince his the adults of childbearing age to get busy early enough for it to provide scalability of the "reactive" model!

Or, the boy could ask his parents to mobilize the country to figure out what's wrong with the dike and fix the flawed design, repair the existing dikes, and built new and improved dikes in the future!

Care to guess which solution MS has choosen - perhaps they had no ability to move out of reactive mode, let's give 'em the benefit of doubt.

It would be fitting if customers simply removed the Windows boxes from the internet, virus problems would go away overnight. Windows was never designed to be on a TCP/IP based internet, so why bother continuing to "plug the leaks"?; Posted by: oldskool Posted on: 06/10/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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i-Lookup flaw has been around for months.. el1jones | 06/09/04

Chronic HIA. . . boomslang_z | 06/10/04

MS reacts to attack vectors, not fixes design flaws oldskool | 06/10/04

How is it criminal to use this flaw? voska | 06/09/04

Well, Let's see.... el1jones | 06/09/04

That was a virus..this is merely adware Jeff Spicoli | 06/09/04

Don't think it matters seosamh_z | 06/09/04

I agree with your point but.. Jeff Spicoli | 06/09/04

damage is irrelvant.. ryusen | 06/09/04

Where do you draw the line? Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/09/04

EXACTLY!!! Jeff Spicoli | 06/09/04

Just a question Rick_K | 06/09/04

mass reply ryusen | 06/10/04

Not the same voska | 06/10/04

The difference escapes me. el1jones | 06/09/04

The Devil's Argument Martin Marvinski | 06/09/04

i would hope that... ryusen | 06/09/04

I agree, I'd call it a virus too but voska | 06/10/04

Well then prong@... | 06/10/04

No, I wouldn't mind at all Jeff Spicoli | 06/10/04

Backwards view voska | 06/10/04

well.... medezark | 06/10/04

Should be and what does happen voska | 06/10/04

subtle difference in intent is all we are talking about oldskool | 06/10/04

you aren't thinking very clearly Valis Keogh | 06/09/04

it's possible ryusen | 06/09/04

How so? prong@... | 06/10/04

But, Officer, the door was unlocked . . . boomslang_z | 06/10/04

Transfer of Page View Date should be outlawed! anthonycea | 06/09/04

I agree, but it could never work tamuhockey | 06/09/04

Cool Linux User 147560 | 06/09/04

As opposed to the EULA flaw? Nigel Johnstone | 06/09/04

A fix has already been released Jeff Spicoli | 06/09/04

here here nikoli | 06/09/04

I'll second that Avatar28 | 06/09/04

Don't care for Firefox... Confused by religion | 06/09/04

Opera's snazzy but.. Jeff Spicoli | 06/09/04

do you eLurker | 06/10/04

Of course Jeff Spicoli | 06/10/04

im not sure eLurker | 06/11/04

Agreed Expatriate US Geek | 06/09/04

Hear, hear!!! Martin Marvinski | 06/09/04

not the only way... ryusen | 06/09/04

Mozilla FireFox is great voska | 06/10/04

Is that also the fix for.... ShadeTree | 06/10/04

Yes it is Jeff Spicoli | 06/10/04

Kind of hung up on this one OSX flaw... MacCanuck | 06/11/04

This has got to be fixed RIGHT NOW! BitTwiddler | 06/09/04

Oh? Martin Marvinski | 06/09/04

Yep BitTwiddler | 06/10/04

No, just download a better browser RIGHT NOW! Eggs Ackley_z | 06/09/04

(nt)it's not that easy in the enterprise toadlife | 06/09/04

And THAT is a disgrace Jeff Spicoli | 06/09/04

Finally, someone who understands... BitTwiddler | 06/10/04

Sure it is voska | 06/10/04

reason 4 ryusen | 06/09/04

excuse Eggs Ackley_z | 06/10/04

Try getting 50 different U.S. government agencies... toadlife | 06/10/04

yes but... ryusen | 06/10/04

what eLurker | 06/11/04

Does it affect limited users? PB_z | 06/09/04

I'm wondering this too toadlife | 06/09/04

sound advise, but not always practical ryusen | 06/09/04

Actually it's almost allways practical toadlife | 06/09/04

depends on your situation i guess ryusen | 06/10/04

In a word, yes doctormoriarty | 06/10/04

please explain toadlife | 06/10/04

You'll find this of interest. Yen_z | 06/10/04

Limited users are protected PB_z | 06/10/04

Sorry, but you're wrong toadlife | 06/10/04

Sorry, but we're both about half-right. Yen_z | 06/11/04

interesting toadlife | 06/11/04

This attack is allowed by bugs in Microsoft JVM kchahal | 06/09/04

drive by downloads are nothing new Avatar28 | 06/09/04

The legal reply Martin Marvinski | 06/09/04

Sad, but completely true tamuhockey | 06/09/04

data yes, programs, no Avatar28 | 06/09/04

Re: data yes, programs, no, but stealing??? vance@... | 06/10/04

Driveby Downloads == Windows Update markgros@... | 06/09/04

Hot water wwylieiii | 06/30/04

Good for the economy Franklin_z | 06/09/04

Typical for ZDNet.... Rick_K | 06/09/04

I'm so glad I use a mac DarthRidiculous | 06/10/04

And yet. . . boomslang_z | 06/10/04

Sure DarthRidiculous | 06/10/04

If you use IE you deserve to get screwed. Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/10/04

Windows users should be asking themselves an important question whisperycat | 06/10/04

So based prong@... | 06/10/04

You respond to a post that wasn't made? whisperycat | 06/10/04

They don't what to acknowlege that MS fought internet oldskool | 06/10/04

Yep, biased quietLee | 06/10/04

RE: Biased CobraA1 | 06/11/04

What's new? tslocum7 | 06/10/04

its DESIGN INTENT ... it simply can't be patched up! oldskool | 06/10/04

By the way ... once you "trust them" you are wide open! oldskool | 06/10/04

Use a Mac, there are no Zdnet reportable flaws FilledOut | 06/10/04

Mac OS X Flaws ShadeTree | 06/10/04

My point exactly Rick_K | 06/10/04

Comparison of flaws toadlife | 06/11/04

I set my Internet Security Settings to High! Grayson_Peddie | 06/11/04

One word: Firefox mac4drew | 06/28/04

Redir Trojan rprice4499 | 06/29/04

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