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Not surprised, Windows Defender doesn't work either
I have yet to see a Microsoft security program that worked. The firewall in both XP SP2 and Vista is half-baked, as today's ZDNet proclaims. I have given Windows Defender a 6 month try on 3 different computers. It has never found anything wrong during scans, but following scanning behind Defender with either Spybot Search and Destroy or Ad-Aware finds plenty.

So I finally gave up and removed Windows Defender, which of course caused a false positive with Windows Genuine Disadvantage. As soon as I removed Windows Defender, my copy of XP was no longer legit, and had to be re-validated and re-registered. Sure impressed me into buying Vista - NOT!

Since that episode this week, I remain more committed than ever to weaning the family network away from Windows operating systems - 3 purchased XP Pro licenses. And since MS Office is tied to Windows, as is virtually all Microsoft software, their going to lose some coin from me.

my thoughts, your choices
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duh  toadlife | 02/06/07
Where are...  say_what | 02/06/07
I Know Where They Are  itanalyst | 02/06/07
LOL~  Linux User 147560 | 02/06/07
SPEW!  Shelendrea | 02/06/07
Well isn't that true? (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 02/06/07
What? This?  Shelendrea | 02/07/07
LOL :-P  crocd | 02/07/07
How could someone that has been on this board ...  ShadeTree | 02/07/07
You aren't too bright...  Levelhead | 02/07/07
But ...  klumper | 02/07/07
No_Ax is just waiting . . .  critic-at-arms | 02/07/07
hahaha  Reverend MacFellow | 02/07/07
Sweet  klumper | 02/07/07
It is from MS  Richard Flude | 02/06/07
Oh this sounds like a compelling reason to upgrade!  Linux User 147560 | 02/06/07
i was just thinking that ...  zoroaster | 02/07/07
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  HypnoToad72 | 02/06/07
Vista a flop? certainly not  PhilippeV | 02/07/07
note to readers and the publisher  PhilippeV | 02/07/07
You're right -  zoroaster | 02/07/07
Ok  Shelendrea | 02/06/07
Not surprised, Windows Defender doesn't work either  fredrwright@... | 02/06/07
Good idea  Tony Agudo | 02/06/07
And while you're at it  Moosehouse | 02/07/07
Jealousy will get you nowhere  Ole Man | 02/07/07
Hmmm, sounds like sour grapes to me  maldain | 02/07/07
Use OpenOffice instead  Deanbar | 02/08/07
If Office and security is what you need, try...  MrGrave | 02/08/07
XP firewall is good!  Björn Lundahl | 02/11/07
XP firewall is very good!  Björn Lundahl | 02/11/07
You'll find you made a good choice  pkrdk | 02/12/07
Microsoft's own antivirus fails to secure Vista  Loverock Davidson | 02/06/07
And we know nothing protects like a pledge  Richard Flude | 02/06/07
fits the quote...  handydan918 | 02/06/07
However...  zkiwi | 02/06/07
" Microsoft is new to this game"  Ole Man | 02/07/07
I was born yesterday ...  zoroaster | 02/07/07
" Microsoft is new to this game"  Deanbar | 02/08/07
Security is Job One?  mds_z | 02/07/07
Yup -  zoroaster | 02/07/07
Microsoft needs to stop...  jasonp@... | 02/07/07
Spread so thin?  flatliner | 02/07/07
MS-ADD?  Zen380 | 02/09/07
ZDNet's attention is fully justified  flatliner | 02/07/07
Classic  klumper | 02/07/07
true BUT...  sir_cheats_alot@... | 02/11/07
Hey Linux Guys  ericseba | 02/06/07
More Linux Questions..  ericseba | 02/06/07
How about a Mac?  um.crouc0 | 02/06/07
HHmmmm  ericseba | 02/07/07
Which OS?  IT_Critic | 02/07/07
You can still use your Windows apps...  olePigeon | 02/07/07
Virtual Machines  ITguy5678 | 02/07/07
So upgrade to VisDuh  zoroaster | 02/07/07
SUMMARY OF ALL APPLE POSTS  micks_tricks | 02/07/07
Thanks for the summary  mbrierley | 02/08/07
PURE FUD...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/08/07
Good Questions: I'll answer those I can...  sjpatrick | 02/07/07
So true...  KWierso | 02/07/07
iTunes  zoroaster | 02/07/07
iTunes & DRM...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/08/07
mplayer? are you serious?  micks_tricks | 02/07/07
Yes, mplayer...  sjpatrick | 02/07/07
mplayer  pkrdk | 02/12/07
Not mplayer's fault.  Sxooter_z | 02/12/07
well said  corticus | 02/07/07
classic case ...  zoroaster | 02/07/07
TiVO-like app for Linux? Hilarious!  tsarkon | 02/08/07
You Don't  northernwolf | 02/08/07
Hey Linux Guys  cj100570@... | 02/07/07
Higher value and a higher price!  Björn Lundahl | 02/07/07
You raise many good points.  sjpatrick | 02/07/07
Uhm...  zoroaster | 02/07/07
backwards ?  lynne1462@... | 02/07/07
Codeweavers...  LeeC | 02/07/07
RE: Hey Linux Guys  Linux User 147560 | 02/07/07
WinDos on CD  zoroaster | 02/07/07
You are talking about BartPE  Linux User 147560 | 02/07/07
nicely put...  sir_cheats_alot@... | 02/11/07
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a step back? R U on crack?  poetfreak | 02/08/07
Just Say No to One Care Live  jpr75_z | 02/06/07
Hey Grandma  ericseba | 02/06/07
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11 out of 15 is OK with you?  Langalibalene | 02/07/07
11 out of 15 BRANDS! Not times  Tankerhank | 02/07/07
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...try reading everything again  Langalibalene | 02/07/07
Please, do Enlighten me..  tikigawd | 02/07/07
I suppose there are many more people brighter than me  Ole Man | 02/09/07
Wrong analogy  littlewing | 02/07/07
How do you know?  msalzberg | 02/08/07
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AVG is a very good product....  cg9055@... | 02/07/07
really an excellent product  PhilippeV | 02/07/07
Another alternative!  Björn Lundahl | 02/07/07
I do agree !  kmashraf | 02/07/07
Yes true!  Björn Lundahl | 02/07/07
Fight the criminals!  Björn Lundahl | 02/08/07
How about another...  cornfreak | 02/08/07
It is too expensive!  Björn Lundahl | 02/10/07
Me too...  tubr0 | 02/07/07
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Trend Micro  robineau@... | 02/07/07
Concurrence...  JCitizen | 02/07/07
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Fully agree  PhilippeV | 02/07/07
Hasta la Vista, Vista!  marcomeyer@... | 02/07/07
No 100% secure system?  ethman42 | 02/07/07
Macs 100% secure???  johncburgess@... | 02/07/07
Mac Fan's picking on Windows  mattchatwin@... | 02/07/07
But they arent now!  Reverend MacFellow | 02/07/07
Yeah, but...  tikigawd | 02/07/07
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sheesh  mattchatwin@... | 02/07/07
Sweet! spell checking!!  tikigawd | 02/07/07
Some sanity at last  johncburgess@... | 02/07/07
correction  liamjames91 | 02/07/07
incorrect correction  chemist109 | 02/12/07
Not quite!  mbrierley | 02/08/07
Detection vs Damage  JulesLt | 02/08/07
I read this a lot..  msalzberg | 02/08/07
OneCare won't even run on Vista 64x  Curelom | 02/07/07
Mean you bought Vista ?  lynne1462@... | 02/07/07
Are you kidding me?  micks_tricks | 02/07/07
Sorry to here you  Linux User 147560 | 02/07/07
Exactly! Thats the attitude!  micks_tricks | 02/07/07
Yup! That's the attitude dude!  Linux User 147560 | 02/07/07
Yup! That's the attitude dude!  bgonetoo | 02/07/07
Naw ya got it wrong!  Linux User 147560 | 02/07/07
Yup! That's the attitude dude! [Corrected gramar and words]  Linux User 147560 | 02/07/07
hah hah hah!  jvenezia | 02/09/07
The point is  Ole Man | 02/07/07
Yes, and it is awesome  Curelom | 02/07/07
Please do  Linux User 147560 | 02/07/07
AW Gee really  lynne1462@... | 02/07/07
cancel or allow, cancel or allow .....  Reverend MacFellow | 02/07/07
cancel or allow?  Kahloman | 02/08/07
I would implore Apple to add truth to advertising  GuidingLight | 02/08/07
Mac Mini Intel as a Media Center  mattchatwin@... | 02/08/07
Sweeeeet!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/11/07
I love that new Mac commercial!  mattchatwin@... | 02/08/07
Vista Security / Insecurity  joergsattler | 02/07/07
You have logged in to Microsoft Windows...  sjpatrick | 02/07/07
And logout and log back in to Linux  micks_tricks | 02/07/07
Still not the same...  sjpatrick | 02/07/07
Isn't it funny how the answer to all Windows problems  Linux User 147560 | 02/07/07
heck (humor)  jjarman | 02/08/07
download.com statistics are helping criminals  PhilippeV | 02/07/07
security through obscurity never works  cls@... | 02/07/07
And...  djs1235@... | 02/07/07
which programs were successful?  james.zents@... | 02/07/07
Bad Analogy  waterhzrd | 02/07/07
Vista Wasn't Bulletproof  jimc52@... | 02/07/07
Why...  tikigawd | 02/07/07
Why also  mattchatwin@... | 02/08/07
security is more than the os people!  erniem1970@... | 02/07/07
"THat is all."?  Ole Man | 02/07/07
Sweet! spell checking!!  tikigawd | 02/07/07
where the hell is non zealot when you need him  hirez | 02/07/07
Guess Bill is probably feeling a bit stupid  hirez | 02/07/07
OneCare doesn't even work with 64-bit Vista Ultimate  yellow_orb@... | 02/07/07
OMG is that true?  jjarman | 02/08/07
It never ends.  goyergeek | 02/07/07
Macs not 100% secure, just FAR MORE secure...  cornfreak | 02/08/07
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Antivirus reliability  norm73@... | 02/08/07
Market Share Does NOT Equal Security/Insecurity!!!  jjarman | 02/08/07
you are right...  mattchatwin@... | 02/08/07
Don't be mean  Boot_Agnostic | 02/09/07
missed the point?  jjarman | 02/09/07
As usual... Blind faith...  mlambert890@... | 02/09/07
UK testers!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/11/07
Welll guys, don't beat me ...  trial.manager@... | 03/23/07

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