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First point I was talking about a lifetime or the lifetime of the Macintosh and while you give one example I can give you many over a period of years.

You can give me many examples of malware attacking the Mac over its lifetime? I know, I can too... and did. My link about Hypercard attacks had more than one in it. There was a time when Hypercard was the most frequently abused piece of software available anywhere. Seriously Jim, you are better off not talking about the lifetime of the Mac and focusing more on the OSX chapter. Pre-OSX MacOSs were a technical joke and, to say they were a security nightmare would imply that there was some form of security in them which would be factually incorrect.

As for the quality of Apple software products

Who said anything about quality? I thought we were talking about security? Apple tends to create very useable, yet abusable software. It was only after they stole a BSD kernel (note: they couldn't write a secure OS themselves) that they got into this neato concept of restricted rights accounts and, as tic pointed out before, ACLs!!

Never use terms like nobody or no one.

Point taken. I should have said that the number of people who use software written by Apple is insignificant compared to the number of people who use software written by Microsoft. That is a lot wordier than "noone" though. happy
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Thank goodness for diversity  Boot_Agnostic | 12/06/06
Cute  zkiwi | 12/06/06
FSVO "Cute"  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/06/06
New and improved flaws  cdgoldin | 12/06/06
Yes and no  ken_ballard@... | 12/06/06
Speaking from experience  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/06/06
Also speaking from experience  cdgoldin | 12/06/06
OO dot oh-oh  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/06/06
OpenOffice issues  Scrat | 12/07/06
Open Office Issues  jkaplenk@... | 12/07/06
the "crud" that Open Office "strips out" constitutes most of the formatting  nomorems | 12/06/06
Bittersweet irony  xuniL_z | 12/07/06
Yawn and oh so typical  Laff | 12/06/06
Likewise with Apple software  NonZealot | 12/06/06
I don't know about that...:)  Laff | 12/06/06
Dont feed the troll  frgough | 12/06/06
Huh?  NonZealot | 12/06/06
OK....lets cut to the chase here my friend.  Laff | 12/06/06
Of course it's more likely  xuniL_z | 12/06/06
Well which OS OSX or OS9 and prior?  Laff | 12/07/06
I clearly stated  xuniL_z | 12/07/06
Apple's invulnerability...  Information_z | 12/06/06
Nope no run of viri for the Mac nor malware in general.  Laff | 12/07/06
yes but...  mtroute@... | 12/07/06
According to Apple their current user base ...  ShadeTree | 12/07/06
Estimate of all Mac users including older OS's like 9 and such.  Laff | 12/07/06
Your  Rick_K | 12/06/06
Huh?  NonZealot | 12/06/06
Not at all.  Rick_K | 12/06/06
Jim brought up Apple  NonZealot | 12/06/06
Your Zealotry has blinded you  Rick_K | 12/06/06
Ok, let's then resort to Apple Zealotry  xuniL_z | 12/06/06
WinZealot  b.d.hi | 12/06/06
WinZealot  b.d.hi | 12/06/06
Why you had to post that twice is beyond me  mdsmedia | 12/07/06
LOL  fuzzy2k | 12/06/06
Really?  NonZealot | 12/06/06
Quick, change the subject  Rick_K | 12/06/06
Which facts?  xuniL_z | 12/06/06
It's not a hatred of Apple....  mdsmedia | 12/07/06
You got it 99% right  NonZealot | 12/07/06
links please?  fuzzy2k | 12/06/06
I always provide links when asked  NonZealot | 12/06/06
It was a windows pc that infected the iPods.  Rick_K | 12/06/06
Rick, I'm glad I've finally made you see the light  NonZealot | 12/06/06
Seriously?  fuzzy2k | 12/06/06
Typical Mac zealot rationalization  NonZealot | 12/06/06
NonZealot  b.d.hi | 12/06/06
NonZealot b  b.d.hi | 12/06/06
Typical Mac zealot...  NonZealot | 12/06/06
Get hardening!  whisperycat | 12/06/06
Great idea!  ejhonda | 12/06/06
New Word zero-day used in attacks  Loverock Davidson | 12/06/06
Are you trying to be funny?  andy88488 | 12/06/06
Oh he's serious  Shelendrea | 12/06/06
Don't be a cynic  critic-at-arms | 12/06/06
The problem with that  xuniL_z | 12/06/06
MS war- NZ would say, started by a Mac PoC,  hirez | 12/06/06
You're right on both counts  critic-at-arms | 12/06/06
You need to spice it up  TripleII | 12/06/06
Oh yeah?  Raymond Danner | 12/06/06
Yeah, limited...  jasonp@... | 12/07/06
Live MS free, or die!  Reverend MacFellow | 12/06/06
It's worse than imagined  xuniL_z | 12/06/06
I find this highly amusing  Shelendrea | 12/06/06
People are the main problem  lfugate@... | 12/06/06
I SOOOOOO AGREE!!!!!!  Jeff Hayes | 12/06/06
No doubt you are correct....  shawkins | 12/06/06
MS and their slow responce times are REAL problem  t3st3r | 12/07/06
Marvel and wonder  mikecepek | 12/06/06
Anyone else notice . . .  critic-at-arms | 12/06/06
I've noticed one other thing  NonZealot | 12/06/06
I wish you were right  critic-at-arms | 12/06/06
No, people don't get hit  NonZealot | 12/06/06
I think you are confusing  fuzzy2k | 12/06/06
Being used in attacks  NonZealot | 12/06/06
I know what FUD is . . .  critic-at-arms | 12/06/06
My thoughts exactly.  Graham Fluet | 12/06/06
NZ is a nutter  hirez | 12/06/06
Isn't that very similar to people sometimes oh say YOU  Laff | 12/06/06
Huh?  NonZealot | 12/06/06
Exactly!!  mdsmedia | 12/07/06
Until someone loses an eye  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/06/06
Careful, you might make the Mac zealots nervous  NonZealot | 12/06/06
WinZealot atttacks Apple  Rick_K | 12/06/06
You lost the argument before you began  NonZealot | 12/06/06
You lost, you just don't realize it  Rick_K | 12/06/06
Rick, you are HILARIOUS!!  NonZealot | 12/06/06
Don't make me STOP this post and come back there!  Laff | 12/06/06
But HE STARTED IT!!!  NonZealot | 12/06/06
Jim  Rick_K | 12/06/06
Do you?  mdsmedia | 12/07/06
Escuse Me?  Graham Fluet | 12/06/06
Highway 666 was renamed for the politically-correct  critic-at-arms | 12/06/06
Vas you dere, Sharley?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/06/06
You're right on both counts  critic-at-arms | 12/06/06
The applicable advisory  peterbk@... | 12/06/06
You get what you deserve  critic-at-arms | 12/06/06
.rtf is at least "open"...  astro_z | 12/06/06
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A Zero-day attack...  Graham Fluet | 12/06/06
Ooopppsss...  Cardinal_Bill | 12/06/06
Not on mac  themacthinker | 12/06/06
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Marketing post by WebSense employee  ejhonda | 12/13/06
NonZealot = WinZealot  b.d.hi | 12/06/06
So poetic I had an infarction! NZ = utube!  hirez | 12/06/06
WZ  fuzzy2k | 12/06/06
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ready set go.....snoooze  hirez | 12/06/06
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