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How many is too many?
---Remember NonZealot, if you ever dare to mention that there are a few too many Apple apologists your bound to be accused of making a strawman argument---

I think that if you're going to make claims like this, you need to be able to back them up. How many is "too many"? Can you give us a statistical comparison based on real-world numbers? Given that there are more than 20 times more Windows users than Mac users, shouldn't there realistically be many more Windows apologists than Mac apologists? How come you never complain that there are too many Windows apologists when they likely outnumber their Mac brethren?

Oh, and the reason that this argument is often called a strawman is because when it is made, the person making it is usually the first one mentioning any claim that the Mac is completely invulnerable. There's always some mythical invisible Mac user they're referring to, but they never seem to directly reference or quote a specific person who claims that Apple's products are 100% without any flaws. Even if you say "some" users and not "all" users, you still need to provide proof of that "some".
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Nothing to be afraid of  NonZealot | 11/21/06
Weren't you asking about Schadenfreude the other day?  tic swayback | 11/21/06
Hmm, care to point it out?  NonZealot | 11/21/06
Look in the mirror  tic swayback | 11/21/06
Done  NonZealot | 11/21/06
Be careful! They will drag out the strawman again!  Cayble | 11/22/06
OK...what is the difference between an "appologist"  Laff | 11/22/06
How many is too many?  tic swayback | 11/22/06
typical tic. As usual  Cayble | 11/23/06
Well, I'm sure we'll all get  999ad@... | 11/21/06
Same defense holds  NonZealot | 11/21/06
We Seek Your Approval to Switch  Harry Bardal | 11/21/06
To equate Ballmer saying that he ...  ShadeTree | 11/21/06
Hmmmmm  thepubba | 11/21/06
NonZealot died for your sins  tic swayback | 11/22/06
Okay it was a stretch!  ShadeTree | 11/22/06
Defenders of the Realm!  nomorems | 11/22/06
As a MAC user...  Information_z | 11/22/06
Info_z... Actually MS has...  MacCanuck | 11/24/06
A critical flaw?  georgep_z | 11/22/06
When you have your own ....  ShadeTree | 11/22/06
That logic does not sound right too me......  Laff | 11/22/06
Yes that is right.  ShadeTree | 11/22/06
No,  fuzzy2k | 11/22/06
howmany2many  hirez | 11/22/06
As more and more  Mectron | 11/21/06
So even you agree that more and more will be using OSX?  Laff | 11/22/06
Well....  Badgered | 11/22/06
Attack code targets zero-day Mac OS X flaw  Loverock Davidson | 11/21/06
It wouldn't work on my machine  j.m.galvin | 11/21/06
Flaw is for *current* Intel based Macs  john.murray@... | 11/22/06
Because the headline reads  j.m.galvin | 11/22/06
Interesting..  thatxbxtchxnicoll | 11/22/06
Agree!  bgonetoo | 11/21/06
what [yawn] was [yawn] that [yawn] about . . .  brian ansorge | 11/21/06
You got the quote wrong again  NonZealot | 11/21/06
Be careful NZ...  tic swayback | 11/22/06
Incorrect response  tic swayback | 11/22/06
Ah but the difference is  Loverock Davidson | 11/22/06
Really?  tic swayback | 11/22/06
Well, yes.... yes it should.  Badgered | 11/22/06
Given the sheer numbers...  tic swayback | 11/22/06
See, now you're going a bit off track  Badgered | 11/22/06
So now you are saying that marketshare DOES count?  Confused by religion | 11/22/06
I'll count on you in the future then...  tic swayback | 11/22/06
Marketshare has always counted  tic swayback | 11/22/06
RE: I'll count on you then  Badgered | 11/22/06
There is no corelation between ...  ShadeTree | 11/22/06
More data is needed....  tic swayback | 11/22/06
tic, let's use your data  NonZealot | 11/22/06
Perhaps you're on to something...  tic swayback | 11/22/06
right?  Badgered | 11/22/06
Oopsy!  tic swayback | 11/22/06
"the most secure version of windows, ever..."  nix_hed | 11/23/06
another proof of concept, without full proof  doh123 | 11/22/06
This was fixed nearly a year ago.  crash89 | 11/22/06
Wasn't that during the whole Widget foofaraw?  tic swayback | 11/22/06
It's off  thatxbxtchxnicoll | 11/22/06
Re: This was fixed nearly a year ago.  jtshaw | 11/22/06
When will they run the Mac attack contests  Boot_Agnostic | 11/22/06
I told you so!  Resuna | 11/22/06
The *flaw* is something you have to turn on.  thatxbxtchxnicoll | 11/22/06
It's on by default.  Resuna | 11/22/06
the last sentence  einsteintech | 11/22/06
Here's a link to the actual website on which the source is  BillyB40 | 11/22/06
Mac Attack  rbert16000 | 11/22/06
With stunning logic like that  NonZealot | 11/22/06
A linux penguin attack  Boot_Agnostic | 11/23/06
And you've tried them all...  John Zern | 11/24/06
Ballmer  rbert16000 | 11/22/06
wow- another proof of concept!  hirez | 11/22/06
real world  TWRX | 11/22/06
2007- The year of the Mac attacks?  ghastly | 11/27/06
Choosing to disagree...  ladyirol | 11/28/06
Notoriety?  NonZealot | 11/28/06
All of this to get 1-5% of users  moffett.john@... | 11/28/06
Small Fan Base  moffett.john@... | 11/28/06
Macs ARE vulnerable  lamp299 | 11/28/06

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