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You know exactly what I meant
but that doesn't mean I presented it as a fact.

"Uh huh, we believe you Apple", that was not meant in a sarcastic tone? That was not meant to imply disbelief

You hit the nail on the head. I don't believe Apple and I most certainly did mean to imply my disbelief but I also never stated any facts. Why don't I believe them? Because of the coincidence. Is the coincidence proof of them lying? No, and I never said it was. That doesn't mean I can't use a coincidence to backup a belief though, does it? As long as I don't misrepresent my belief as fact (which I didn't), I'm golden!

As far as the rest of your post goes, you are right, there is little evidence one way or another. The best we can do is guess. Those guesses lead to beliefs and again, as long as those beliefs aren't presented as fact, we are golden!

tic, I'm not saying your beliefs are wrong, I just believe something different. I certainly hope you aren't suggesting that my beliefs are wrong, are you?
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Old news...  Grayson Peddie | 11/01/06
Uh huh, we believe you Apple  NonZealot | 11/01/06
Back...  Harry Bardal | 11/01/06
Yeah, I'm just waiying for the ....  ShadeTree | 11/01/06
OK...ready?  Laff | 11/01/06
I could have predicted it!  ShadeTree | 11/02/06
Well if you wanted a book...I assumed you did not.  Laff | 11/02/06
what do you run?  April May | 11/02/06
Not sure how much the head office want me to gab about his but  Laff | 11/02/06
The story is about an exploit being demonstrated.  ShadeTree | 11/03/06
An exploit being demonstrated that does not do much  Laff | 11/03/06
2 interesting points  NonZealot | 11/02/06
Fair enough....:)  Laff | 11/02/06
You're actually in a better position  tic swayback | 11/02/06
LOL! True enough tic  NonZealot | 11/02/06
Eye of the beholder  tic swayback | 11/02/06
Again... Consequences  Harry Bardal | 11/02/06
Ok Harry  NonZealot | 11/02/06
Ignorance of facts  Mikael_z | 11/02/06
Ignorant of facts indeed!!!  NonZealot | 11/02/06
You are completely wrong anyway  Mikael_z | 11/03/06
Easy to say I'm wrong  NonZealot | 11/03/06
If your "REAL  notsofast | 11/02/06
That has been my experience with Windows over the years  Laff | 11/03/06
shade, you're confused again  Monkey_MCSE | 11/02/06
Boring  tic swayback | 11/02/06
You know NonZ old buddy......  Laff | 11/01/06
how do you measure  April May | 11/02/06
Well "security" is one issue yes.  Laff | 11/02/06
longevity and compatability...  nix_hed | 11/02/06
You're confusing coincidence with fact  tic swayback | 11/02/06
I'm not confusing anything  NonZealot | 11/02/06
What did you really mean?  tic swayback | 11/02/06
You know exactly what I meant  NonZealot | 11/02/06
Then my original point stands  tic swayback | 11/02/06
I understand  NonZealot | 11/02/06
No good reason  tic swayback | 11/02/06
Reading the first two paragraphs...  gfeier | 11/01/06
Raises an interesting question  NonZealot | 11/02/06
Sort of a strange and sad obssesion don't you tink?  Laff | 11/02/06
Dying to bash Apple!  Asheboro, NC | 11/01/06
Apple is a Hardware Vendor  VexoFP@... | 11/01/06
You missed the point  Fred Fredrickson | 11/02/06
actually...  Badgered | 11/02/06
Strawman  tic swayback | 11/02/06
Oh goodness....  Badgered | 11/02/06
The only thing that offends me...  tic swayback | 11/02/06
Yes, I admit it.  Badgered | 11/02/06
I'm just trying to help  tic swayback | 11/02/06
re: I'm just trying to help.  Badgered | 11/03/06
Sorry if I didn't live up to your expectations  tic swayback | 11/03/06
No, no, no... You've got me all wrong  Badgered | 11/03/06
Let's work harder next time  tic swayback | 11/03/06
If only I could cash a paycheck on potential  Badgered | 11/03/06
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rofl...  Badgered | 11/02/06
you completely misquoted... is this george??  doctorSpoc | 11/02/06
completely? Really?  Badgered | 11/02/06
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No, I don't  Badgered | 11/03/06
Oh..My...God....  chilove | 11/02/06
WHAT????????  Badgered | 11/02/06
I knew it....  chilove | 11/02/06
gahhhhhhhh  Badgered | 11/02/06
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Expense  Harry Bardal | 11/02/06
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