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I must be missing something . . .
First of all, in spite of Apple's DRM, I have found it fairly easy to convert M4p files to something different---in my case, MP3s.

Easy. Burn the "AAC" (aka M4p) files to a CD (Now AIFFs) and then "Import" into iTunes.

Ta daaaaa.


I've purchased less than a $100 worth of iTunes, but, for me, the DRM is moot.

I play thousands of MP3s on my iPod. Most were *not* from iTunes. Most are from CDs (again, "imported"). Others are from eMusic.

YES. eMusic. Unadulterated. Unconverted. I have MP3s from streamed PBS/NPR programs. Play flawlessly. I have MP3s from other music sources also. So much for a "closed" system.

Again, am I missing something? I read the article expecting something ground-breaking and earth-shaking. Hardly anything of the sort.

It was made to sound like there is some "great wall" of China around iTunes Music Service and iPod music players---thus making it a act on par with sending a man to the moon to get NON-iTMS music to play on iPods.

Hardly the case. And, as I already mentioned, it's not very difficult for a person with no knowledge of computer coding and hacking to convert AAC's (Apples Fairplay DRM files) to MP3's
Posted by: brian ansorge   Posted on: 10/25/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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If anything comes out of this...  BitTwiddler | 10/25/06
how about DVD's...  macbill | 10/26/06
Record Industry and Apple and DRM  SkipNewarkDE | 10/25/06
re: Record Industry and Apple and DRM  fizzmaster | 10/25/06
No circumvention  tic swayback | 10/25/06
I may be wrong...  fizzmaster | 10/25/06
Please remember something  Bill4 | 10/25/06
Is the company US based?  tic swayback | 10/25/06
It sure gets to be a mess, doesn't it?  Bill4 | 10/25/06
CA based?  grntwtr@... | 10/26/06
You could be right  tic swayback | 10/25/06
Not quite  ken_ballard@... | 10/25/06
It's confusing  tic swayback | 10/26/06
where did he reverse engineer it? where will the store be?  Bryn | 10/25/06
All you have to do is reverse engineer the iPod.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
It's bad for the consumer  notsofast | 10/25/06
Follow the money...  thegestunkenaraygun | 10/26/06
I smell law suit...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/25/06
Good point,  fizzmaster | 10/25/06
Scary principle  tic swayback | 10/25/06
PRINCIPLES  Intellihence | 10/25/06
Nope...Apple wins on this...see my other post.  techboy_z | 10/25/06
I agree. Apple will Win  clockmendergb@... | 10/26/06
depends where they are located  Bryn | 10/25/06
Nice try on the spin . You should take lessons from L.D.  Intellihence | 10/25/06
Great concept. Will it make any difference?  tic swayback | 10/25/06
What makes the IPOD such a success  voska | 10/25/06
I must be missing something . . .  brian ansorge | 10/25/06
What you missed...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/26/06
Something else you missed  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Spot On  multanihl | 10/25/06
Well now you know one....me.  Laff | 10/25/06
So I want to know...  multanihl | 10/25/06
See there is the problem right there.....  Laff | 10/25/06
Gotcha  multanihl | 10/25/06
Renewability  tic swayback | 10/26/06
My dissatisfaction  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Thanks  multanihl | 10/26/06
Right On...  ladyirol | 10/26/06
Not exactly the best analogy  Wolfie2K3 | 10/26/06
Not true  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Google will just buy them out...  chris752 | 10/25/06
Apple won't send a Christmas card,  Ken_z | 10/25/06
Was Real sued  tic swayback | 10/25/06
Real was ignored  jonathanschellack | 10/25/06
Pure and simple  999ad@... | 10/25/06
How can you be stealing what you paid for?  Dirk Belligerent | 10/25/06
Great Summary!  Ole Man | 10/26/06
Easy, Steve  unix.dude | 10/25/06
S Jobs wants HW sales  Ken_z | 10/25/06
where's the theft?  b_koury@... | 10/25/06
Apple will be happy, actually.  techboy_z | 10/25/06
It will be a lose-lose  George Jay | 10/25/06
How so?  techboy_z | 10/26/06
Apple won't be happy  Fred Fredrickson | 10/26/06
Not true...  techboy_z | 10/26/06
Are they breaking patent/copyright?  j.m.galvin | 10/25/06
Most likely, no  Yalius | 10/25/06
Apple lose money? Nah.  SheldonW | 10/25/06
apple lose money  pcone31@... | 10/26/06
who cares?  inertman@... | 10/25/06
i this i that.........  bgonetoo | 10/25/06
Just waiting for the day DVD Jon goes to prison.  BeGoneFool | 10/25/06
American laws are for americans to obay  Bryn | 10/25/06
Redwood Shores, California  SheldonW | 10/25/06
Just waiting for the day DVD Jon goes to prison?  handydan918 | 10/25/06
Which prison are you in?  B.O.F.H. | 10/25/06
DVD Jon  Becks_z | 10/25/06
Blaming the victims  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Oops, what a terrible assumption!!!  NonZealot | 10/25/06
Spell Check...  SheldonW | 10/26/06
Ignorance  brian ansorge | 10/26/06
Oops, what a clueless post  tic swayback | 10/26/06
From the owner of a large iTMS library  Bugbyte | 10/26/06
DVD Jon 4 Us  ebudae@... | 10/25/06
Right, what right?  Becks_z | 10/26/06
So you like being told where you can play your music?  ebudae@... | 10/26/06
You Got It! "The Customer is King"-Pay Attention, Big Biz!  GaijinIT | 10/26/06
Macs are now CHEAPER, Better...  pberry26@... | 10/27/06
Rebuttal  voska | 10/26/06
Actually,  Patrick Jones | 10/26/06
What is this right?  tic swayback | 10/26/06
But do you really "own" it???  MacCanuck | 10/26/06
The Simple Facts Are  Ole Man | 10/26/06
Depends on what you've "bought"  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Exactly What I Said  Ole Man | 10/26/06
Tech savvy...  SheldonW | 10/26/06
Not bad; 2 out of 3  Zogg | 10/26/06
Dumb Ass  wizardb@... | 10/26/06
Remaining silent causes more problems  voska | 10/26/06
It's Called Intelligence  Ole Man | 10/26/06
interoperability  mari53 | 10/26/06
Might buy an iPod if this works  dukemang | 10/26/06
I'd buy an IPOD  voska | 10/26/06
Just remember, it Apple gets to the point of shutting them down  Boot_Agnostic | 10/26/06
You CAN get major bands on MP3 (or Ogg)!  bblackmoor@... | 10/26/06
AllofMP3.com is in the crosshairs.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
They do pay their royalties  tic swayback | 10/26/06
No they don't  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Yes, they do  tic swayback | 10/26/06
No they don't  osreinstall | 10/26/06
I didn't say it was right, just that it was legal, in Russia  tic swayback | 10/26/06
It will not be for much longer.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Internal versus external  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Doesn't matter  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Why aren't the artists getting paid?  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Because Russia is made up of Al Capones.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
allofmp3  rastaub | 10/26/06
Is going to be noneofmp3.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Not always true  tic swayback | 10/26/06
This is not fair use.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Fair use has nothing to do with anything here  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Figured you were going there.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
True it's a different situation  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Not really. I believe we have choices in this world.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Why do without?  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Haven't heard anything good in over 20 years.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Other reasons  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Pirates? Think "Felon Microsoft"!  pberry26@... | 10/27/06
Nice try Vern.  osreinstall | 10/27/06
AllOfMP3 is what a music store SHOULD be  bblackmoor@... | 10/27/06
Not according to the WTO.  osreinstall | 10/27/06
According to the market  bblackmoor@... | 11/24/06
Major bands on mp3  tic swayback | 10/26/06
eMusic, AllOfMP3, whatever it takes  bblackmoor@... | 10/26/06

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