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To reverse engineer means to discover how something works. Only once you've completed reverse engineering can you being the process of circumventing. Reverse engineering does not need to require circumvention, so it is within the law.

And this will provide program to program compatibility. Most MP3 players run off firmware based software applications. It will also provide other software applications the ability to play iTunes DRM-protected files.
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If anything comes out of this...  BitTwiddler | 10/25/06
how about DVD's...  macbill | 10/26/06
Record Industry and Apple and DRM  SkipNewarkDE | 10/25/06
re: Record Industry and Apple and DRM  fizzmaster | 10/25/06
No circumvention  tic swayback | 10/25/06
I may be wrong...  fizzmaster | 10/25/06
Please remember something  Bill4 | 10/25/06
Is the company US based?  tic swayback | 10/25/06
It sure gets to be a mess, doesn't it?  Bill4 | 10/25/06
CA based?  grntwtr@... | 10/26/06
You could be right  tic swayback | 10/25/06
Not quite  ken_ballard@... | 10/25/06
It's confusing  tic swayback | 10/26/06
where did he reverse engineer it? where will the store be?  Bryn | 10/25/06
All you have to do is reverse engineer the iPod.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
It's bad for the consumer  notsofast | 10/25/06
Follow the money...  thegestunkenaraygun | 10/26/06
I smell law suit...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/25/06
Good point,  fizzmaster | 10/25/06
Scary principle  tic swayback | 10/25/06
PRINCIPLES  Intellihence | 10/25/06
Nope...Apple wins on this...see my other post.  techboy_z | 10/25/06
I agree. Apple will Win  clockmendergb@... | 10/26/06
depends where they are located  Bryn | 10/25/06
Nice try on the spin . You should take lessons from L.D.  Intellihence | 10/25/06
Great concept. Will it make any difference?  tic swayback | 10/25/06
What makes the IPOD such a success  voska | 10/25/06
I must be missing something . . .  brian ansorge | 10/25/06
What you missed...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/26/06
Something else you missed  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Spot On  multanihl | 10/25/06
Well now you know one....me.  Laff | 10/25/06
So I want to know...  multanihl | 10/25/06
See there is the problem right there.....  Laff | 10/25/06
Gotcha  multanihl | 10/25/06
Renewability  tic swayback | 10/26/06
My dissatisfaction  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Thanks  multanihl | 10/26/06
Right On...  ladyirol | 10/26/06
Not exactly the best analogy  Wolfie2K3 | 10/26/06
Not true  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Google will just buy them out...  chris752 | 10/25/06
Apple won't send a Christmas card,  Ken_z | 10/25/06
Was Real sued  tic swayback | 10/25/06
Real was ignored  jonathanschellack | 10/25/06
Pure and simple  999ad@... | 10/25/06
How can you be stealing what you paid for?  Dirk Belligerent | 10/25/06
Great Summary!  Ole Man | 10/26/06
Easy, Steve  unix.dude | 10/25/06
S Jobs wants HW sales  Ken_z | 10/25/06
where's the theft?  b_koury@... | 10/25/06
Apple will be happy, actually.  techboy_z | 10/25/06
It will be a lose-lose  George Jay | 10/25/06
How so?  techboy_z | 10/26/06
Apple won't be happy  Fred Fredrickson | 10/26/06
Not true...  techboy_z | 10/26/06
Are they breaking patent/copyright?  j.m.galvin | 10/25/06
Most likely, no  Yalius | 10/25/06
Apple lose money? Nah.  SheldonW | 10/25/06
apple lose money  pcone31@... | 10/26/06
who cares?  inertman@... | 10/25/06
i this i that.........  bgonetoo | 10/25/06
Just waiting for the day DVD Jon goes to prison.  BeGoneFool | 10/25/06
American laws are for americans to obay  Bryn | 10/25/06
Redwood Shores, California  SheldonW | 10/25/06
Just waiting for the day DVD Jon goes to prison?  handydan918 | 10/25/06
Which prison are you in?  B.O.F.H. | 10/25/06
DVD Jon  Becks_z | 10/25/06
Blaming the victims  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Oops, what a terrible assumption!!!  NonZealot | 10/25/06
Spell Check...  SheldonW | 10/26/06
Ignorance  brian ansorge | 10/26/06
Oops, what a clueless post  tic swayback | 10/26/06
From the owner of a large iTMS library  Bugbyte | 10/26/06
DVD Jon 4 Us  ebudae@... | 10/25/06
Right, what right?  Becks_z | 10/26/06
So you like being told where you can play your music?  ebudae@... | 10/26/06
You Got It! "The Customer is King"-Pay Attention, Big Biz!  GaijinIT | 10/26/06
Macs are now CHEAPER, Better...  pberry26@... | 10/27/06
Rebuttal  voska | 10/26/06
Actually,  Patrick Jones | 10/26/06
What is this right?  tic swayback | 10/26/06
But do you really "own" it???  MacCanuck | 10/26/06
The Simple Facts Are  Ole Man | 10/26/06
Depends on what you've "bought"  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Exactly What I Said  Ole Man | 10/26/06
Tech savvy...  SheldonW | 10/26/06
Not bad; 2 out of 3  Zogg | 10/26/06
Dumb Ass  wizardb@... | 10/26/06
Remaining silent causes more problems  voska | 10/26/06
It's Called Intelligence  Ole Man | 10/26/06
interoperability  mari53 | 10/26/06
Might buy an iPod if this works  dukemang | 10/26/06
I'd buy an IPOD  voska | 10/26/06
Just remember, it Apple gets to the point of shutting them down  Boot_Agnostic | 10/26/06
You CAN get major bands on MP3 (or Ogg)!  bblackmoor@... | 10/26/06
AllofMP3.com is in the crosshairs.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
They do pay their royalties  tic swayback | 10/26/06
No they don't  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Yes, they do  tic swayback | 10/26/06
No they don't  osreinstall | 10/26/06
I didn't say it was right, just that it was legal, in Russia  tic swayback | 10/26/06
It will not be for much longer.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Internal versus external  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Doesn't matter  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Why aren't the artists getting paid?  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Because Russia is made up of Al Capones.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
allofmp3  rastaub | 10/26/06
Is going to be noneofmp3.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Not always true  tic swayback | 10/26/06
This is not fair use.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Fair use has nothing to do with anything here  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Figured you were going there.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
True it's a different situation  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Not really. I believe we have choices in this world.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Why do without?  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Haven't heard anything good in over 20 years.  osreinstall | 10/26/06
Other reasons  tic swayback | 10/26/06
Pirates? Think "Felon Microsoft"!  pberry26@... | 10/27/06
Nice try Vern.  osreinstall | 10/27/06
AllOfMP3 is what a music store SHOULD be  bblackmoor@... | 10/27/06
Not according to the WTO.  osreinstall | 10/27/06
According to the market  bblackmoor@... | 11/24/06
Major bands on mp3  tic swayback | 10/26/06
eMusic, AllOfMP3, whatever it takes  bblackmoor@... | 10/26/06

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